mistakes over the years

[Ranger 0]

I have supported the city for over 30 ears and we are now back where we stared in the old days of floating around the 2nd division before Ron Saundres took us up.The last few years the board have made some vital mistakes.we should have invested. mistakes as listed; not holding on to Malky Mckay when we got promotedNot buying Peter Crouch when we had a chanceNot buyng David BentlyLetting Daimain francis goLetting Robert Green goNot Investing before we started the season in the premier leaugeTaking on Peter grant as manager(he has no experience as manager and we should aim higher)Forgetting how faithfull and loyal the fans are and not giving them the team they deserve.The team at the moment are the worst i have seen since those old days.I just hope some one at the club will see sense before it is too late.

[10 Bryceland 0]

I too can remember the good old days, Bryan Conlon, Albert Bennett, Trevor Howard, Max Briggs et al.  Are we back in those good ole days? I don''t know but to me there is a rosy glow of nostalga for those days.  The vitriol amongst us fans certainly wasn''t there even if the passion was.  However....mistakes?

Malky Mackay/Iwan Roberts, hindsight is wonderful isn''t it?  Did we ever realistically ever have a chance to keep Peter Crouch.  And would we have been betteroff with him?  Was David Bently an effective part of the team?  Did Damian Francis deserve to stay on the basis of his latter appearances?  Could we have kept Robert Green at the end of his contract?  Of the talent available was there a better option than Peter Grant?  Are you taken for granted if you are yellow through and through?

All of this is a matter of opinion but is looking back.  What we need to do is look forward.  We are not yet mathmatically safe so should the team formation and personnel be experimented with, or remain the same as we hope to grind out the necessary points?  Lets see who goes and who stays.  At the end of the day cheer up.  I have always had a sneaking affection for Burnley and can appreciate what their fans are going through.  There ARE others in a worse position! 

[Syteanric 1]

david Bentley wouldnt of signed for us.. at the time i thought he was no better than what we already had... he is doing well at Blackburn and Hughes has got the best out of him... Perhaps he was just using us as a stepping stone.... Blackburn have coached him into a good player...

 He might of had an arroagnt attitude when he was here.. but Mark Hughes wouldnt take that i dont think and has made Bentley from a boy into a man.

jas :)

[Hardhouse44 289]

Whilst I agree that the team and I emphasize the word team as I do believe we have a handful of good plays, is one of the worst I have seen in my 26 years of holding a season ticket. I believe that most of you points were not in the club or boards hands. Yes the release of Malky was a mistake however you can not blame the board as the would have been made at a purely management level. If Worthy didn’t want him then the board would be very unlikely to intervene.

Remember at this point Worthington was god he had us playing in the top level for the first time in 10 years and his judgement was trusted.

Peter Crouch was an option but the money they wanted was big and worthy had got a lot of players on big wages in in the summer.

Bentley I doubt would have been for sale at the time he played for us as he was highly rated and don’t forget he was on loan to gain experience to use with Arsenal. Yes he was sold later but quite a bit later and I don’t for one minute think he would have signed for us when we were back in the championship.

Letting Francis go. Well you have to know the full facts I guess, so many theories. If the McKenzie thing was true as many say then I guess that Worthington had to make a decision as to which player to keep. We got good money in my view for Francis. Lazy player. And don’t forget we although we had just be relegated we were red hot favourites to go back up and Worthington was still god.

Rob Green. The lad wanted to go he was going to leave at some stage and if you dig your heels in and don’t let him then you just lose him on a free.

Right now lets get to the points where feel you have hit the nail on the head. Firstly not investing in the premiership season. Yes to a degree your spot on. You can just spend £20m but we didn’t spend much at all at first and when we did it was to late.

Next forgetting the loyal fans and not giving them the team they deserve. What you are saying is that we didn’t get good players in. Thats the problem. We got in dross at the start of the season after the premiership and we did it again the year. This is where I think you can blame the board. They didn’t realise the severity of the situation early enough, they allowed Worthington to acquire a string of substandard player and then allowed him to try and do it again.

Worthington had clearly not got the ability to bring in players of the quality needed. Whether this was due to bad vision or lack of fund is up for discussion. However I am a great believer in the fact that he got lucky. He has never been a great judge of a player, he had brought many duds in the past long before our promotion. His luck was to get 2 good loan players. Huckerby was in his prime in the promotion season and in that league he was head and shoulders above anybody else at the time. You only have to have watched his hatrick on Saturday to see how good Crouch can be. Maybe that’s why we couldn’t sign him.

So the board biggest mistake was surely to allow our club to be steered by the man who got us up with luck but couldn’t strike lucky twice.

They allowed him to continue throwing the ball but he never hit another coconut.

Finally thank god we all think you say that Grants appointment is a mistake. Maybe, maybe not. Your argument is no different to many, mine included at the time, that he has no experience as a manger. Fine but nor did Roy Keene. Nor does any new manager. And we are not a premiership side remember and mangers have to start somewhere. My view is that he talk the talk, he says he want promotion and he says he will be ruthless in order to get it. We have to allow him at least until Xmas to see if he can turn the corner with his own choice of players. YES, big mistakes were made and hindsight is a great thing but we have to keep a level of reality and a little bit of faith.

[Cluck 0]

The whole club is at an all time low in my view since I began supporting in 1962.

In the sixties we were a genuine "community club".....loved by all in the area despite the ordinary results.  The players were totally approachable and the management and staff genuine "football people".

Following the great Ron Saunders rise in the early 1970''s....we moved on to be not only remain a "community club"....but a successful and exciting one at that. Cup runs and yo yo seasons kept us on the edge of our seats and we genuinely feared no-one.

Fast forward to the post Chase years and what have we got? A very poor team....a board consisting of spin merchants and amateurs....a fancy restaurant....a pile of debt....the loss of the community "feelgood factor"....a celebrity milking the club for the publicity it can bring her....and the heartfelt sympathy of other clubs for the way "Delia''s little old Norwich" have fallen by the wayside.

Mistakes.....too many to mention, but largely made in the past 10 awful years under Saint Delilia (the patron Saint of Camp!) There lies our biggest mistake by far!

[VAUX 0]

1/ Injury to Matti Svenson missed loads of games during our Prem season, looking back it was his excellent performances along with Hucks that took us up (fantastic goals vs Wigan) without injury he could well have saved us. (this one niggles me the most)

2/ Injury to Bentley at West Ham 3rd round of the cup in the Prem season.

3/ Not replacing Crouch with Deano until the Jan Transfer window. We should have bought him in the Summer, we were not fully prepared.

4/ Finally standing by Leon Mckenzie for months and months whilst injured only for him to request a transfer once fully fit. We should have disposed of him sooner with that slack attitude!!!!!!!

[lucky green trainers 0]

its not getting any better this season.  keeping worthy and then investing in the summer.  drafting in PG and then retaining all of worthy''s backroom staff - a fudge that is still unravelling in my view, if the disagreement between hunter & PG at colchester is to be believed.  failing to find a replacement for earnie in the jan window - thank god we unearthed martin and hucks hit top form again.  and then martin''s contract fiasco.  are we geared up for the prem??? despite everything, i''m behind PG and hoping the board finds a way to give him the funds to help us challenge for next season.

[alex_ncfc 686]

The biggest mistakes in RECENT years were the fact that Worthington dismantled a team - a team which had good spirit and togetherness. In fact, he couldn''t do it soon enough, first dumping Iwan with Malky following soon after - whilst never replacing them - and couple this onto the fact that the board sat idly by and watched him do it. AND let it continue for another few seasons. Madness all round.

[ricky knight 0]

[quote user="Ranger"]
I have supported the city for over 30 ears and we are now back where we stared in the old days of floating around the 2nd division before Ron Saundres took us up.The last few years the board have made some vital mistakes.we should have invested. mistakes as listed;
not holding on to Malky Mckay when we got promoted
Not buying Peter Crouch when we had a chance
Not buyng David Bently
Letting Daimain francis go
Letting Robert Green go
Not Investing before we started the season in the premier leauge
Taking on Peter grant as manager(he has no experience as manager and we should aim higher)
Forgetting how faithfull and loyal the fans are and not giving them the team they deserve.
The team at the moment are the worst i have seen since those old days.
I just hope some one at the club will see sense before it is too late.
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Blimey mate put your tin hat on, you dare to criticise city on this forum, its a hanging offence.

[ricardo 8,034]

[quote user="ricky knight"]

[quote user="Ranger"]
I have supported the city for over 30 ears and we are now back where we stared in the old days of floating around the 2nd division before Ron Saundres took us up.The last few years the board have made some vital mistakes.we should have invested. mistakes as listed;
not holding on to Malky Mckay when we got promoted
Not buying Peter Crouch when we had a chance
Not buyng David Bently
Letting Daimain francis go
Letting Robert Green go
Not Investing before we started the season in the premier leauge
Taking on Peter grant as manager(he has no experience as manager and we should aim higher)
Forgetting how faithfull and loyal the fans are and not giving them the team they deserve.
The team at the moment are the worst i have seen since those old days.
I just hope some one at the club will see sense before it is too late.
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Blimey mate put your tin hat on, you dare to criticise city on this forum, its a hanging offence.

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Don''t agree with all your points but the Malky one was the most important in my opinion. Worthy tried to fix something that wasn''t broke.

Bigest mistake in the last 10 years.

[Syteanric 1]

[quote user="VAUX"]

1/ Injury to Matti Svenson missed loads of games during our Prem season, looking back it was his excellent performances along with Hucks that took us up (fantastic goals vs Wigan) without injury he could well have saved us. (this one niggles me the most)

2/ Injury to Bentley at West Ham 3rd round of the cup in the Prem season.

3/ Not replacing Crouch with Deano until the Jan Transfer window. We should have bought him in the Summer, we were not fully prepared.

4/ Finally standing by Leon Mckenzie for months and months whilst injured only for him to request a transfer once fully fit. We should have disposed of him sooner with that slack attitude!!!!!!!

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disagree! i will defend McKenzie to the hilt! what was said about his private life was sickening! he stuck with that being said for the best part of 18 months.. by pepole who claimed to be "fans" of this football club.. it was small minded thickos with too much time on their hands! instead of sitting infront of a PC making crap up about a man in the public eye and setting out to destroy his life and upsrt his kids in public these people could of gone out and found girlfriends and got lives instead...

 Leon showed guts and good character during that spell, and a move was a clean slate for him... i hope he goes on to do very well at Coventry city.. it would of been easy for him to have given the Norwich fans 2 fingers and said "up yours" but he didnt.. im glad to say the majority of fans backed Leon.

jas :)

[Northern Canary 0]

I would add buying Doherty and Hughes to that list. Also think Svennson would have been quite handy last season.

[sheded 0]

! i will defend McKenzie to the hilt! what was said about his private life was sickening! he stuck with that being said for the best part of 18 months.. by pepole who claimed to be "fans" of this football club.. it was small minded thickos with too much time on their hands! instead of sitting infront of a PC making crap up about a man in the public eye and setting out to destroy his life and upsrt his kids in public these people could of gone out and found girlfriends and got lives instead...

 Leon showed guts and good character during that spell, and a move was a clean slate for him... i hope he goes on to do very well at Coventry city.. it would of been easy for him to have given the Norwich fans 2 fingers and said "up yours" but he didnt.. im glad to say the majority of fans backed Leon.

jas

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So , according to you ,  McKenzie didn`t go off with a spanish " mistress "  ...?    this is fact , not fantasy !!   

And , he comes with the whine that   his " private life "  has been ruined by public opinion !   yeah  mckenzie  its all our fault , isn`t it?  

[norfolkbroadslim 225]

- 3-10 years, so many things, too many to list, general naughtyness, firebrigade, fights, going missing for half a day, cheeky, doing things I was far too young for.

- I set fire to a copse accidently, after a camp fire got out of hand when I was 11.  Three fire engines, police cars, closed dual carriageway, sorry[:$]

- I would have been about 11 again, and I went on a ladybird murder spree one summers day with my sister and my friend.  I feel so ashamed about this one, I would kill my step kids if they did anything similar.

- When I was 12 and I got asked out by a girl I thought was ok, but did not go out with her, then 2 years later in high school, everyone fancied her, she, ahem, blosommed tremendously, if only I could have turned the clock back.

- When I was 14-18 and fancied one of my sisters best mates.  She is gorgeous, I am sure, had I not been so shy, that we could have mated.

- When I was 15 and the woman down the street made it plainly obvious she wanted me, but I just hid[*-)]

- Fracturing my wrist, being stupid, in the changing rooms before my debut for the 6th form football team.

- When I was 19 and I made the wrong decision choosing the Uni I went to and the course I did, why oh why did I not go to Southampton to do Fine Arts and Antiques[:@]

- Aged 21 and staying at Uni, I should have left, got a job, and done a college course, even after 2 years of boring rubbish, it didn''t dawn on me.......

- Aged 23 and forgoing the chance of a "liason" with two girls from Whitley Bay.

- Aged 25, buying a Celica, I should have bought a Legacy.

- Now, aged 28, being in the wrong job, over weight, ah well at least it''s a Bank Holiday this weekend and Norwich are playing twice.[:D]

[Indy_Bones 444]

Regardless of personal viewpoints on McKenzie and his personal life, the simple fact to consider is that he was never going to be a prolific goalscorer, the number of times he looked certain to score and then screwed it wide or straight at the keeper was unreal. He stepped up from a lower league, and did a decent job, but never displayed the level of ability that the likes of Hucks, Earnie and even Martin have displayed.We got a damn good price for a very average player, and despite his ''clean slate'' at Coventry, he''s hardly repaid this, with a fairly anaemic 6 goals in 30 odd games, not exactly setting the Championship alight with his goalscoring prowess is he?Yes, some mistakes were made, but the likes of Bentley and Crouch were unlikely to ever be permanent signings, Bentley seemed very much a player ''on show'', with hopes of a first team place at Arsenal, and if we are being totally truthful about Crouch, his 4 in 15 games for us was not exactly top material, neither was his 6 in 37 for Villa - why do you think they loaned him out to us? Most people if they are being honest, would have to admit that they really didn''t even rate Crouch that much until he starting hitting form again with Southampton, then suddenly it there were endless comments about ''why did we let him go?''.And without being branded as some sort of Delia ''fan boy'', I think some of the comments are way out of order. To the average person in the street, Delia is far less in the public eye now than she has been in a long time. She gave up a very succesful and long running TV series to concentrate on working with the club, yes there have been some genuine errors, but I honestly don''t think it''s from lack of commitment or desire.As for the comments about ''Little Old Norwich'', I''d personally love to know where all these people are meant to be that hold this view, because to be honest, there aren''t any near me. In fact, despite our current poor form, we''re still very much respected and seen in a good light, both from a footballing perspective and as a club. The fact that in recent times we''ve signed players like Hucks, Ashton and Earnie is surely an indicator that we are bigger than that statement.No-one is happy about the current performances, but all this casting of blame about mistakes in the past is pointless. Why instead of regurgitating bile about Worthington, the board etc, can we not give support to Grant and the changes he''s trying to make. What more do you genuinely think a ''big name manager'' could currently be doing that Grant isn''t? God, if the likes of Souness had been employed, we''d probably have spent millions and already been relegated based on his recent job performances. We have a team, that for a number of reasons just isn''t good enough, we know it, the manager knows it, the players know it, and the board knows it. I''m looking forward to a very interesting summer, to see what Grant actually does in regards to transfers etc, but I guess that unless we claim to be signing Ronaldo, Eto''o and Terry, we''re still just a small club in East Anglia? Give the guy a chance to dig us out of the mire we are in, as it''s clear to me that the board know that they''ve cocked up with the whole NW situation, and are now trying to rectify it.Just remember, Rome wasn''t built in a day, and neither was a quality football team...

[VAUX 0]

Yes, I agree but it was disappointing that the club stuck with him for so long for him to go ahead and leave. However spose if his life was being made misrable whist at Norwich he had no other option. Like many, It would have been nice to see him fight for his place in the team, heaven knows there has been times when we have needed him this season. When he did wear yellow at least he put in a consistant 100% this acolade may have also been useful in the dressing room too.

As for girlfriends, the supporters have needed to look elsewhere for their high thrills this season the football hasn''t reached expectation!!

[Shack Attack 0]

[quote user="Hardhouse44"]

Whilst I agree that the team and I emphasize the word team as I do believe we have a handful of good plays, is one of the worst I have seen in my 26 years of holding a season ticket. I believe that most of you points were not in the club or boards hands. Yes the release of Malky was a mistake however you can not blame the board as the would have been made at a purely management level. If Worthy didn’t want him then the board would be very unlikely to intervene.

Remember at this point Worthington was god he had us playing in the top level for the first time in 10 years and his judgement was trusted.

Peter Crouch was an option but the money they wanted was big and worthy had got a lot of players on big wages in in the summer.

Bentley I doubt would have been for sale at the time he played for us as he was highly rated and don’t forget he was on loan to gain experience to use with Arsenal. Yes he was sold later but quite a bit later and I don’t for one minute think he would have signed for us when we were back in the championship.

Letting Francis go. Well you have to know the full facts I guess, so many theories. If the McKenzie thing was true as many say then I guess that Worthington had to make a decision as to which player to keep. We got good money in my view for Francis. Lazy player. And don’t forget we although we had just be relegated we were red hot favourites to go back up and Worthington was still god.

Rob Green. The lad wanted to go he was going to leave at some stage and if you dig your heels in and don’t let him then you just lose him on a free.

Right now lets get to the points where feel you have hit the nail on the head. Firstly not investing in the premiership season. Yes to a degree your spot on. You can just spend £20m but we didn’t spend much at all at first and when we did it was to late.

Next forgetting the loyal fans and not giving them the team they deserve. What you are saying is that we didn’t get good players in. Thats the problem. We got in dross at the start of the season after the premiership and we did it again the year. This is where I think you can blame the board. They didn’t realise the severity of the situation early enough, they allowed Worthington to acquire a string of substandard player and then allowed him to try and do it again.

Worthington had clearly not got the ability to bring in players of the quality needed. Whether this was due to bad vision or lack of fund is up for discussion. However I am a great believer in the fact that he got lucky. He has never been a great judge of a player, he had brought many duds in the past long before our promotion. His luck was to get 2 good loan players. Huckerby was in his prime in the promotion season and in that league he was head and shoulders above anybody else at the time. You only have to have watched his hatrick on Saturday to see how good Crouch can be. Maybe that’s why we couldn’t sign him.

So the board biggest mistake was surely to allow our club to be steered by the man who got us up with luck but couldn’t strike lucky twice.

They allowed him to continue throwing the ball but he never hit another coconut.

Finally thank god we all think you say that Grants appointment is a mistake. Maybe, maybe not. Your argument is no different to many, mine included at the time, that he has no experience as a manger. Fine but nor did Roy Keene. Nor does any new manager. And we are not a premiership side remember and mangers have to start somewhere. My view is that he talk the talk, he says he want promotion and he says he will be ruthless in order to get it. We have to allow him at least until Xmas to see if he can turn the corner with his own choice of players. YES, big mistakes were made and hindsight is a great thing but we have to keep a level of reality and a little bit of faith.

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I''d just like to say that I think this is the most sensible and balanced post I''ve read on this subject in an absolute age.

Mistakes have been made by the both the board and our previous manager of that there can be no doubt. Despite the best efforts of some posters to suggest otherwise, you''ll be hard pushed to find anyone who does not agree with this.

What will happen next is open to debate, but I qiuite like the idea of "a level of reality and a little bit of faith". One of the best things about being a football fan is the expectation as you approach a new season that "this might just be our year", it''s a shame that a few people on here will not get that feeling.

[ricardo 8,034]

[quote user="norfolkbroadslim"]

- 3-10 years, so many things, too many to list, general naughtyness, firebrigade, fights, going missing for half a day, cheeky, doing things I was far too young for.

- I set fire to a copse accidently, after a camp fire got out of hand when I was 11.  Three fire engines, police cars, closed dual carriageway, sorry[:$]

- I would have been about 11 again, and I went on a ladybird murder spree one summers day with my sister and my friend.  I feel so ashamed about this one, I would kill my step kids if they did anything similar.

- When I was 12 and I got asked out by a girl I thought was ok, but did not go out with her, then 2 years later in high school, everyone fancied her, she, ahem, blosommed tremendously, if only I could have turned the clock back.

- When I was 14-18 and fancied one of my sisters best mates.  She is gorgeous, I am sure, had I not been so shy, that we could have mated.

- When I was 15 and the woman down the street made it plainly obvious she wanted me, but I just hid[*-)]

- Fracturing my wrist, being stupid, in the changing rooms before my debut for the 6th form football team.

- When I was 19 and I made the wrong decision choosing the Uni I went to and the course I did, why oh why did I not go to Southampton to do Fine Arts and Antiques[:@]

- Aged 21 and staying at Uni, I should have left, got a job, and done a college course, even after 2 years of boring rubbish, it didn''t dawn on me.......

- Aged 23 and forgoing the chance of a "liason" with two girls from Whitley Bay.

- Aged 25, buying a Celica, I should have bought a Legacy.

- Now, aged 28, being in the wrong job, over weight, ah well at least it''s a Bank Holiday this weekend and Norwich are playing twice.[:D]

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If I were you Slim, I''d ask if I could have another go

[sheded 0]

When I was 15 and the woman down the street made it plainly obvious she wanted me, but I just hid

norfolk broad slim

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For crisake ! she only wanted you to run some errands  [:D]    

 

[Syteanric 1]

[quote user="sheded"]! i will defend McKenzie to the hilt! what was said about his private life was sickening! he stuck with that being said for the best part of 18 months.. by pepole who claimed to be "fans" of this football club.. it was small minded thickos with too much time on their hands! instead of sitting infront of a PC making crap up about a man in the public eye and setting out to destroy his life and upsrt his kids in public these people could of gone out and found girlfriends and got lives instead...

 Leon showed guts and good character during that spell, and a move was a clean slate for him... i hope he goes on to do very well at Coventry city.. it would of been easy for him to have given the Norwich fans 2 fingers and said "up yours" but he didnt.. im glad to say the majority of fans backed Leon.

jas

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So , according to you ,  McKenzie didn`t go off with a spanish " mistress "  ...?    this is fact , not fantasy !!   

And , he comes with the whine that   his " private life "  has been ruined by public opinion !   yeah  mckenzie  its all our fault , isn`t it?  

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never heard anything about a spanish mistress... and im not talking about that incident.. im talking about the Francis-McKenzie fiasco...

jas :)

[sheded 0]

never heard anything about a spanish mistress... and im not talking about that incident.. im talking about the Francis-McKenzie fiasco...

jas

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No ? not even  about pissing off  and leaving a wife and kids in the lurch ?

But explain about the Francis- McKenzie  fiasco  , I seem to have missed that bit !

[:^)]

[Syteanric 1]

[quote user="sheded"]

never heard anything about a spanish mistress... and im not talking about that incident.. im talking about the Francis-McKenzie fiasco...

jas

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No ? not even  about pissing off  and leaving a wife and kids in the lurch ?

But explain about the Francis- McKenzie  fiasco  , I seem to have missed that bit !

[:^)]

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not sure if it would make it past the mods sheded... Legal stuff and all that.. i can PM u with the alleged story though...

 Leon moved to coventry allegedly to be closer to his children.. i have no idear where they moved too...

His ex wife appeared in a national tabloid for a whinge.. yet seemed totally happy with the money he was giving her (and the food parcels for his children for their welfare too....

jas :)

[Stevie Wonder 0]

1. The failure to sign a striker before the prem season got underway. We went into the season with 3 senior strikers - Hux, Svensson & McKenzie. Had we signed an Ashton or a Crouch we would almost certainly have stayed up.
2. Allowing Svensson, Edworthy, Holt & Mulryne to leave and replacing them with Thorne, MLJ, Jarrett & Hughes!!
3. The quite bizarre decision to go into a season without a single senior right winger in your squad.
4. After a frankly disasterous season when it was quite obvious the squad wasn''t good enough we then sign one player in the close season.
5. Trying to sign an unproven young player for £2million when there are numerous areas of your squad requiring attention and that young player being a right winger - this after your only signing of the summer having been a right winger!!!!!
6. Wasting vast quantities of money on loan players who were either crap (Lisbie, Rehman, Robinson) or we were never likely to sign (Davenport & Johansen).

[lucky green trainers 0]

[quote user="Stevie Wonder"]

1. The failure to sign a striker before the prem season got underway. We went into the season with 3 senior strikers - Hux, Svensson & McKenzie. Had we signed an Ashton or a Crouch we would almost certainly have stayed up.
2. Allowing Svensson, Edworthy, Holt & Mulryne to leave and replacing them with Thorne, MLJ, Jarrett & Hughes!!
3. The quite bizarre decision to go into a season without a single senior right winger in your squad.
4. After a frankly disasterous season when it was quite obvious the squad wasn''t good enough we then sign one player in the close season.
5. Trying to sign an unproven young player for £2million when there are numerous areas of your squad requiring attention and that young player being a right winger - this after your only signing of the summer having been a right winger!!!!!
6. Wasting vast quantities of money on loan players who were either crap (Lisbie, Rehman, Robinson) or we were never likely to sign (Davenport & Johansen).

[/quote]ouch!!! this list should make the board wriggle uncomfortably in their seats.  and its not about having hindsight here - what you''ve highlighted seems to indicate there was a general commonsense bypass afflicting the carra rd board and management team during this time.  for me, the downturn in city''s fortune started when they disgracefully bundled malky off to west ham. - i''m assuming malky went ape when he heard simon charlton was coming in - who wouldn''t of?with malky gone, we had the shortest central defence in the prem, with no plan ''b.''  our defence has never recovered since, and looks unconvincing to this day.  make no mistake, major surgery is required in the summer transfer window, as opposed to a few tweaks - the colchester defending was more akin to a relegation outfit - half-hearted and lacking in organisation and belief, rather than a team aiming to challenge for the prem.

[sheded 0]

not sure if it would make it past the mods sheded... Legal stuff and all that.. i can PM u with the alleged story though...

 Leon moved to coventry allegedly to be closer to his children.. i have no idear where they moved too...

His ex wife appeared in a national tabloid for a whinge.. yet seemed totally happy with the money he was giving her (and the food parcels for his children for their welfare too....

jas

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Hmmm ,  so his wife  was " happy with the money he gave her "   , AND THE FOOD PARCELS  !! for his kids  ......  don`t you see the contradiction ?    no man worthy of the name , and getting his screw , would stoop to giving food parcels  for his OWN kids !!  thats what you send  3rd world famine victims .....

If you don`t mind , I`d sooner drop this subject ,  he`s just not worth discussing  , is he ?

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[quote user="norfolkbroadslim"]

- 3-10 years, so many things, too many to list, general naughtyness, firebrigade, fights, going missing for half a day, cheeky, doing things I was far too young for.

- I set fire to a copse accidently, after a camp fire got out of hand when I was 11.  Three fire engines, police cars, closed dual carriageway, sorry[:$]

- I would have been about 11 again, and I went on a ladybird murder spree one summers day with my sister and my friend.  I feel so ashamed about this one, I would kill my step kids if they did anything similar.

- When I was 12 and I got asked out by a girl I thought was ok, but did not go out with her, then 2 years later in high school, everyone fancied her, she, ahem, blosommed tremendously, if only I could have turned the clock back.

- When I was 14-18 and fancied one of my sisters best mates.  She is gorgeous, I am sure, had I not been so shy, that we could have mated.

- When I was 15 and the woman down the street made it plainly obvious she wanted me, but I just hid[*-)]

- Fracturing my wrist, being stupid, in the changing rooms before my debut for the 6th form football team.

- When I was 19 and I made the wrong decision choosing the Uni I went to and the course I did, why oh why did I not go to Southampton to do Fine Arts and Antiques[:@]

- Aged 21 and staying at Uni, I should have left, got a job, and done a college course, even after 2 years of boring rubbish, it didn''t dawn on me.......

- Aged 23 and forgoing the chance of a "liason" with two girls from Whitley Bay.

- Aged 25, buying a Celica, I should have bought a Legacy.

- Now, aged 28, being in the wrong job, over weight, ah well at least it''s a Bank Holiday this weekend and Norwich are playing twice.[:D]

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Cheer up Broadslim, your luck is turning.

Your avatar hasn''t been zapped yet by the PC police - after a long run.

OTBC

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[quote user="norfolkbroadslim"]

- 3-10 years, so many things, too many to list, general naughtyness, firebrigade, fights, going missing for half a day, cheeky, doing things I was far too young for.

- I set fire to a copse accidently, after a camp fire got out of hand when I was 11.  Three fire engines, police cars, closed dual carriageway, sorry[:$]

- I would have been about 11 again, and I went on a ladybird murder spree one summers day with my sister and my friend.  I feel so ashamed about this one, I would kill my step kids if they did anything similar.

- When I was 12 and I got asked out by a girl I thought was ok, but did not go out with her, then 2 years later in high school, everyone fancied her, she, ahem, blosommed tremendously, if only I could have turned the clock back.

- When I was 14-18 and fancied one of my sisters best mates.  She is gorgeous, I am sure, had I not been so shy, that we could have mated.

- When I was 15 and the woman down the street made it plainly obvious she wanted me, but I just hid[*-)]

- Fracturing my wrist, being stupid, in the changing rooms before my debut for the 6th form football team.

- When I was 19 and I made the wrong decision choosing the Uni I went to and the course I did, why oh why did I not go to Southampton to do Fine Arts and Antiques[:@]

- Aged 21 and staying at Uni, I should have left, got a job, and done a college course, even after 2 years of boring rubbish, it didn''t dawn on me.......

- Aged 23 and forgoing the chance of a "liason" with two girls from Whitley Bay.

- Aged 25, buying a Celica, I should have bought a Legacy.

- Now, aged 28, being in the wrong job, over weight, ah well at least it''s a Bank Holiday this weekend and Norwich are playing twice.[:D]

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Never mind fatty.......Still time for an 18-30''s holiday and the STD you''d probably have got in Whitley bay.   [Y]