Here's what Milwaukee Brewers' Fans have to say...

[Yellow and Green 353]

Someone beat me to their message board, but here are a few of their responses when asked what to expect if Attanasio invests/buys:

 

There are 28 owners of MLB teams that aren't corporations.  Of the other 27 owners I'd really only want to trade Attanasio for 6.  He's clearly a better owner than half the other teams.  

He seems to be a smart guy and appears to be committed to owning the team for a long time.  

I would think you could do worse.  I don't know anything about football in England.  I doubt he's going to spend a crazy ton of money to improve the team but he probably won't be a penny pinched either.   He's generally a smart guy.  I assume he will hire smart people.

 

And while it's easy to be skeptical, I will say that under Attanasio's run, the Brewers have been pretty successful, especially recently. Maybe the most important role of an owner is to choose the right people to run the organization and Mark Attanasio seems to be, at minimum, pretty good at that job.

 

 

I think the Brewers franchise is one of the most well-run professional sports teams in the United States. Attanasio has continued to invest in the organization in a responsible, long-term outlook. Throughout his time as owner of the Brewers he has earned the admiration of the employees of the organization as well as continued to center the importance of fan experience.

I think the only reason Brewers fans would like more from him, is that they would like him to spend more money on free agents.

 

The Brewers organization is in a much better place than it was when Attanasio bought the team.  They have more engagement with the community than just about any club in the sport.  They're successful on the field.  He seems like a nice man with a good family.

He said he wanted to be competitive every year, and the Brewers are just that.  That the Brewers aren't players for the top of the free agent classes hasn't hurt them in putting together competitive rosters.

 

And the only reason he isn't listed as the best is because they haven't won the WS yet.  If he can pull that off than I'd have zero complaints at all.  That's a big mountain to climb for a small market franchise like ours.

 

[Inch High aka Inchy.. 420]

Delia and MWJ mark 2. The younger model.

[Big Vince 430]

Will never pass the EPL's fit and proper person test as there is no reference to money laundering, corruption, stonings, beheadings, disappearances, etc.

[Mr Apples 1,407]

3 minutes ago, Big Vince said:

Will never pass the EPL's fit and proper person test as there is no reference to money laundering, corruption, stonings, beheadings, disappearances, etc.

But socialism is ok, yeah? 🤭😉

Apples

[canarybubbles 2,211]

17 hours ago, Yellow and Green said:

Someone beat me to their message board, but here are a few of their responses when asked what to expect if Attanasio invests/buys:

 

There are 28 owners of MLB teams that aren't corporations.  Of the other 27 owners I'd really only want to trade Attanasio for 6.  He's clearly a better owner than half the other teams.  

He seems to be a smart guy and appears to be committed to owning the team for a long time.  

I would think you could do worse.  I don't know anything about football in England.  I doubt he's going to spend a crazy ton of money to improve the team but he probably won't be a penny pinched either.   He's generally a smart guy.  I assume he will hire smart people.

 

And while it's easy to be skeptical, I will say that under Attanasio's run, the Brewers have been pretty successful, especially recently. Maybe the most important role of an owner is to choose the right people to run the organization and Mark Attanasio seems to be, at minimum, pretty good at that job.

 

 

I think the Brewers franchise is one of the most well-run professional sports teams in the United States. Attanasio has continued to invest in the organization in a responsible, long-term outlook. Throughout his time as owner of the Brewers he has earned the admiration of the employees of the organization as well as continued to center the importance of fan experience.

I think the only reason Brewers fans would like more from him, is that they would like him to spend more money on free agents.

 

The Brewers organization is in a much better place than it was when Attanasio bought the team.  They have more engagement with the community than just about any club in the sport.  They're successful on the field.  He seems like a nice man with a good family.

He said he wanted to be competitive every year, and the Brewers are just that.  That the Brewers aren't players for the top of the free agent classes hasn't hurt them in putting together competitive rosters.

 

And the only reason he isn't listed as the best is because they haven't won the WS yet.  If he can pull that off than I'd have zero complaints at all.  That's a big mountain to climb for a small market franchise like ours.

 

Thank you for providing this. It's interesting reading.

[WD40 726]

On the point about putting good people in place to run the club, do we assume that would be Webber in the short term? And he’d have more money to play with in terms of wages that will have us fishing in better pools?

I personally would like to see us move on from Mr 90% but given the short turnaround  I’m minded to agree continuity this summer is sensible.

[dylanisabaddog 6,197]

42 minutes ago, WD40 said:

On the point about putting good people in place to run the club, do we assume that would be Webber in the short term? And he’d have more money to play with in terms of wages that will have us fishing in better pools?

I personally would like to see us move on from Mr 90% but given the short turnaround  I’m minded to agree continuity this summer is sensible.

The FFP rules will stop us from paying ridiculous wages

[Yellow and Green 353]

3 hours ago, dylanisabaddog said:

The FFP rules will stop us from paying ridiculous wages

Whilst I don't think we will pay ridiculous wages, the only thing stopping us from doing so is our determination not to go into debt/administration.

FFP has a limit on how much a club can lose over a three-year period (I forget how much). As we've stayed in the black throughout the past few years, that gives us the ability to spend more and avoid any punishment.

For what it's worth, I think that the new owners will give us the funds to put us in a position of strength in the transfer market, if we get promoted again. Instead of bailing on our first choice targets (Ajer, Billing, Bornauw), I think that the investment will help us to stump up the money, which should make Webber's job a lot easier.

[WD40 726]

4 hours ago, dylanisabaddog said:

The FFP rules will stop us from paying ridiculous wages

Ridiculous wages yes, but more than the relative pittance that causes better talent to choose other clubs (Virgil Van Dikj?!)

[Google Bot 3,995]

21 minutes ago, Yellow and Green said:

For what it's worth, I think that the new owners will give us the funds to put us in a position of strength in the transfer market,

Even without a significant spend increase it sends out a stronger message when you have financial backing, as there's a level of security and potential for any player coming in.

Thing is, I can't imagine us really spending all that more really -  because where would that money be coming from.  Wouldn't it just be loaned to us if they're looking for an investment?  They won't just throw money down a hole and expect nothing back.  When you consider that we probably needed 30-50m more spent on our squad to compete, that's a lot to drop.

...Unless Delia/MWJ is willing to let them walk in at a low valuation(?).

I think with their investment it means that we can better hold on to players that we develop, i.e. having a guarantor there allows us to extend the time before we 'must' sell to balance the books.

[dylanisabaddog 6,197]

42 minutes ago, Yellow and Green said:

Whilst I don't think we will pay ridiculous wages, the only thing stopping us from doing so is our determination not to go into debt/administration.

FFP has a limit on how much a club can lose over a three-year period (I forget how much). As we've stayed in the black throughout the past few years, that gives us the ability to spend more and avoid any punishment.

For what it's worth, I think that the new owners will give us the funds to put us in a position of strength in the transfer market, if we get promoted again. Instead of bailing on our first choice targets (Ajer, Billing, Bornauw), I think that the investment will help us to stump up the money, which should make Webber's job a lot easier.

 

13 minutes ago, WD40 said:

Ridiculous wages yes, but more than the relative pittance that causes better talent to choose other clubs (Virgil Van Dikj?!)

The new FFP limits to be voted on by UEFA shortly will see a salary cap of 70% of turnover by 2025. We are near or over that already. 

[dylanisabaddog 6,197]

20 minutes ago, Google Bot said:

Even without a significant spend increase it sends out a stronger message when you have financial backing, as there's a level of security and potential for any player coming in.

Thing is, I can't imagine us really spending all that more really -  because where would that money be coming from.  Wouldn't it just be loaned to us if they're looking for an investment?  They won't just throw money down a hole and expect nothing back.  When you consider that we probably needed 30-50m more spent on our squad to compete, that's a lot to drop.

...Unless Delia/MWJ is willing to let them walk in at a low valuation(?).

I think with their investment it means that we can better hold on to players that we develop, i.e. having a guarantor there allows us to extend the time before we 'must' sell to balance the books.

It's a nice thought but even Liverpool are likely to lose Mane and Salah to higher payers and Leeds look likely to lose Raphina. Like it or not we will always lose players to bigger clubs. 

I may be wrong but I think any introduction of funds will be used to increase capacity.

If it is spent on players it needs to be done a lot more effectively. Last summer was truly awful and Webber has only got away with it because he found Emi. Farke was the one who promoted the careers of the youngsters we've sold. Unfortunately all of the profit made on Emi was wasted and Smith seems a bit reluctant to blood young players. 

The worrying thing is that we need 7,000 extra seats but that would only bring in an extra £5m a year in ticket sales. Not the greatest reason to do it but it remains very important so we don't lose a generation. 

 

[keelansgrandad 6,680]

I think we can see that the man seems straight. Its now whether he thinks we are what he is looking for as a foothold in the UK. And lets face it, which other club else is left? Surely he is looking to become MSH?

[WD40 726]

1 hour ago, dylanisabaddog said:

 

The new FFP limits to be voted on by UEFA shortly will see a salary cap of 70% of turnover by 2025. We are near or over that already. 

If true all the more reason to try and establish in prem league before shop totally closes 

[TheGunnShow 7,470]

2 hours ago, dylanisabaddog said:

It's a nice thought but even Liverpool are likely to lose Mane and Salah to higher payers and Leeds look likely to lose Raphina. Like it or not we will always lose players to bigger clubs. 

I may be wrong but I think any introduction of funds will be used to increase capacity.

If it is spent on players it needs to be done a lot more effectively. Last summer was truly awful and Webber has only got away with it because he found Emi. Farke was the one who promoted the careers of the youngsters we've sold. Unfortunately all of the profit made on Emi was wasted and Smith seems a bit reluctant to blood young players. 

The worrying thing is that we need 7,000 extra seats but that would only bring in an extra £5m a year in ticket sales. Not the greatest reason to do it but it remains very important so we don't lose a generation. 

 

Bit in bold might be a shade harsh to be honest. He's let Rowe and Springett come up and play - the concern he'd have is that you don't want to expose youngsters to too much negative experience early on, and getting tonked in the top flight regularly would certainly test the confidence levels of even the most seasoned pros, let alone callow youngsters finding their way.

We'll have a much better idea of him here when he's half-way through next season.

[canarybubbles 2,211]

Yes, Smith has played Rowe and Springett, but I don't see any real development of those players in the way that Farke pitched in Max and Omo at a moment when he believed they were ready and then kept trust in them. Like everything with Smith, I can't see any strategy or planning - just random throwing of our youngsters onto the pitch because it's popular with the fans and makes him seem far more daring and imaginative than he actually is.

[TheGunnShow 7,470]

13 minutes ago, canarybubbles said:

Yes, Smith has played Rowe and Springett, but I don't see any real development of those players in the way that Farke pitched in Max and Omo at a moment when he believed they were ready and then kept trust in them. Like everything with Smith, I can't see any strategy or planning - just random throwing of our youngsters onto the pitch because it's popular with the fans and makes him seem far more daring and imaginative than he actually is.

Disagree - as said, the thing with developing youngsters is to try to give them positive experience. Hard for such experience to be positive if we're getting tonked on the regular. Farke was able to do it a division lower and without any expectation to be right at the top of a league. Smith still had to look at trying to stay up.

Not saying it's a wrong perspective, I just think it's harsh there. The fact they've made their way to the first team squad tells me that Smith really wants to look at them in pre-season this time around as a bare minimum.

Edited May 31, 2022 by TheGunnShow

[CowboyCanary 39]

8 hours ago, dylanisabaddog said:

The FFP rules will stop us from paying ridiculous wages

Ridiculous wages?  Isn't that what the Premier League is all about?  I think that's the difference between most of the Premier League and us.