nutty nigel 7,633 Posted October 1, 2021 Now the pined for Tony Fernandes has got in on the act.... Announced today, Tifosy Capital & Advisory is acting as exclusive arranger and distributor for Queens Park Rangers on its retail bond. QPR is offering supporters and other retail investors the chance to invest in its new training ground, which will provide state-of-the-art facilities for all players from first team to academy. The offer is open now for pre-registration through Tifosy’s sports investment platform at www.tifosy.com/qpr. The terms of the QPR Bond are similar to those previously offered via the Tifosy Investment Platform, including the Canaries Bond which raised £5,000,000 for the development of Norwich City’s Academy facilities. The Canaries Bond was repaid in 2019, following the Club’s promotion to the Premier League, with Bondholders receiving the 25% Promotion Bonus in addition to the fixed-rate interest. One key difference to previous bonds is that for the QPR Bond, UK investors will be able to take their returns tax free if investing through the Tifosy Innovative Finance ISA. The headline terms are as follows: 8% interest per annum (5% cash, 3% in Club Credit redeemable on tickets & merchandise) 25% cash bonus if QPR promoted to the Premier League by 2025/26 Minimum investment £500 Bonds eligible for sale on the Tifosy Exchange As well as annual interest payments and the possibility of major bonus if QPR is promoted, a unique set of exclusive Bondholder Privileges are being offered at different investment tiers.Pre-registration opens today at www.tifosy.com/qpr. Pre-register to receive priority access to invest ahead of the launch to the general public. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Vince 319 Posted October 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, nutty nigel said: Now the pined for Tony Fernandes has got in on the act.... Announced today, Tifosy Capital & Advisory is acting as exclusive arranger and distributor for Queens Park Rangers on its retail bond. QPR is offering supporters and other retail investors the chance to invest in its new training ground, which will provide state-of-the-art facilities for all players from first team to academy. The offer is open now for pre-registration through Tifosy’s sports investment platform at www.tifosy.com/qpr. The terms of the QPR Bond are similar to those previously offered via the Tifosy Investment Platform, including the Canaries Bond which raised £5,000,000 for the development of Norwich City’s Academy facilities. The Canaries Bond was repaid in 2019, following the Club’s promotion to the Premier League, with Bondholders receiving the 25% Promotion Bonus in addition to the fixed-rate interest. One key difference to previous bonds is that for the QPR Bond, UK investors will be able to take their returns tax free if investing through the Tifosy Innovative Finance ISA. The headline terms are as follows: 8% interest per annum (5% cash, 3% in Club Credit redeemable on tickets & merchandise) 25% cash bonus if QPR promoted to the Premier League by 2025/26 Minimum investment £500 Bonds eligible for sale on the Tifosy Exchange As well as annual interest payments and the possibility of major bonus if QPR is promoted, a unique set of exclusive Bondholder Privileges are being offered at different investment tiers.Pre-registration opens today at www.tifosy.com/qpr. Pre-register to receive priority access to invest ahead of the launch to the general public. As we have seen at Norwich, doing the training ground is not the answer unless you want multiple EPL relegations and enhanced national laughing stock status. The boy Webber operates in some kind of parallel universe at Colney - completely far removed from what goes on on a match day. Don't do it QPR. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,633 Posted October 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Big Vince said: As we have seen at Norwich, doing the training ground is not the answer unless you want multiple EPL relegations and enhanced national laughing stock status. The boy Webber operates in some kind of parallel universe at Colney - completely far removed from what goes on on a match day. Don't do it QPR. Perhaps he sees this immitation as his only hope of getting back to the PL. He's been trying it his own way for years... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commonsense 647 Posted October 2, 2021 8 hours ago, Big Vince said: As we have seen at Norwich, doing the training ground is not the answer unless you want multiple EPL relegations and enhanced national laughing stock status. The boy Webber operates in some kind of parallel universe at Colney - completely far removed from what goes on on a match day. Don't do it QPR. Absolutely. It’s not as if it’s helped to achieve the production of home grown players, and 2 promotions rather than languishing in obscurity in the championship for years. Enjoy Accrington today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Greenthumb 750 Posted October 2, 2021 8 hours ago, nutty nigel said: Now the pined for Tony Fernandes has got in on the act.... Announced today, Tifosy Capital & Advisory is acting as exclusive arranger and distributor for Queens Park Rangers on its retail bond. QPR is offering supporters and other retail investors the chance to invest in its new training ground, which will provide state-of-the-art facilities for all players from first team to academy. The offer is open now for pre-registration through Tifosy’s sports investment platform at www.tifosy.com/qpr. The terms of the QPR Bond are similar to those previously offered via the Tifosy Investment Platform, including the Canaries Bond which raised £5,000,000 for the development of Norwich City’s Academy facilities. The Canaries Bond was repaid in 2019, following the Club’s promotion to the Premier League, with Bondholders receiving the 25% Promotion Bonus in addition to the fixed-rate interest. One key difference to previous bonds is that for the QPR Bond, UK investors will be able to take their returns tax free if investing through the Tifosy Innovative Finance ISA. The headline terms are as follows: 8% interest per annum (5% cash, 3% in Club Credit redeemable on tickets & merchandise) 25% cash bonus if QPR promoted to the Premier League by 2025/26 Minimum investment £500 Bonds eligible for sale on the Tifosy Exchange As well as annual interest payments and the possibility of major bonus if QPR is promoted, a unique set of exclusive Bondholder Privileges are being offered at different investment tiers.Pre-registration opens today at www.tifosy.com/qpr. Pre-register to receive priority access to invest ahead of the launch to the general public. QPR have had no premiership money to help them out and every club has just suffered huge financial losses Over the last 18 months. Strange comparison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Vince 319 Posted October 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Commonsense said: Absolutely. It’s not as if it’s helped to achieve the production of home grown players, and 2 promotions rather than languishing in obscurity in the championship for years. Enjoy Accrington today. Producing home grown players is not benefiting Norwich City - only the clubs they are fed to. The money they get for them keeps the Socialists in control because for them self-funding is the only way to stay in control. Webber is just a proxy in all of this. It is a business model, not a flesh and blood football club. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,178 Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dr Greenthumb said: QPR have earned no premiership money to help them out and every club has just suffered huge financial losses Over the last 18 months. Strange comparison. Fixed that for you (although should it be earnt?). Edit: either apparently, although earnt is more common in the UK. Edited October 2, 2021 by Nuff Said Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,750 Posted October 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Dr Greenthumb said: QPR have had no premiership money to help them out and every club has just suffered huge financial losses Over the last 18 months. Strange comparison. No, they had a rich owner who some on here wanted to buy NCFC, who's thrown away millions of pounds and not even been able to deliver a single promotion. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Greenthumb 750 Posted October 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, Nuff Said said: Fixed that for you (although should it be earnt?). Edit: either apparently, although earnt is more common in the UK. Thanks, I’d rather you contributed to the discussion, instead of picking at peoples grammar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,633 Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dr Greenthumb said: QPR have had no premiership money to help them out and every club has just suffered huge financial losses Over the last 18 months. Strange comparison. That's not fair on poor Tony being deprived of PL money. Perhaps it should be shared out more fairly. Maybe the promoted team get half and the other half divided among the rest of the championship? Edited October 2, 2021 by nutty nigel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ged in the onion bag 857 Posted October 2, 2021 27 minutes ago, Nuff Said said: Fixed that for you (although should it be earnt?). Edit: either apparently, although earnt is more common in the UK. Isn’t it ‘haven’t earned any’ 🤣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,337 Posted October 2, 2021 Is this still a begging bowl... .....only when we do it, when a multi zillionaire does it , its smart business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,337 Posted October 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, nutty nigel said: That's not fair on poor Tony being deprived of PL money. Perhaps it should be shared out more fairly. Maybe the promoted team gat half and the other half divided among the rest of the championship? Now thats getting close to real socialism. Plus all supporters of promoted clubs must use any spare rooms in their dwelling to rehouse the homeless. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,633 Posted October 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, wcorkcanary said: Now thats getting close to real socialism. Plus all supporters of promoted clubs must use any spare rooms in their dwelling to rehouse the homeless. Suffolk Socialism at it's finest🙃 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,450 Posted October 2, 2021 12 hours ago, nutty nigel said: Now the pined for Tony Fernandes has got in on the act.... What do you mean “pined for” Tony Fernandez? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Greenthumb 750 Posted October 2, 2021 46 minutes ago, nutty nigel said: That's not fair on poor Tony being deprived of PL money. Perhaps it should be shared out more fairly. Maybe the promoted team get half and the other half divided among the rest of the championship? They could do that, would seem to be a bit odd. But like your replies to anything, cool twist on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monty13 2,252 Posted October 2, 2021 13 hours ago, nutty nigel said: Now the pined for Tony Fernandes has got in on the act.... Announced today, Tifosy Capital & Advisory is acting as exclusive arranger and distributor for Queens Park Rangers on its retail bond. QPR is offering supporters and other retail investors the chance to invest in its new training ground, which will provide state-of-the-art facilities for all players from first team to academy. The offer is open now for pre-registration through Tifosy’s sports investment platform at www.tifosy.com/qpr. The terms of the QPR Bond are similar to those previously offered via the Tifosy Investment Platform, including the Canaries Bond which raised £5,000,000 for the development of Norwich City’s Academy facilities. The Canaries Bond was repaid in 2019, following the Club’s promotion to the Premier League, with Bondholders receiving the 25% Promotion Bonus in addition to the fixed-rate interest. One key difference to previous bonds is that for the QPR Bond, UK investors will be able to take their returns tax free if investing through the Tifosy Innovative Finance ISA. The headline terms are as follows: 8% interest per annum (5% cash, 3% in Club Credit redeemable on tickets & merchandise) 25% cash bonus if QPR promoted to the Premier League by 2025/26 Minimum investment £500 Bonds eligible for sale on the Tifosy Exchange As well as annual interest payments and the possibility of major bonus if QPR is promoted, a unique set of exclusive Bondholder Privileges are being offered at different investment tiers.Pre-registration opens today at www.tifosy.com/qpr. Pre-register to receive priority access to invest ahead of the launch to the general public. Personally I really like this way of raising finances. I think the return if the club is promoted is almost too generous given the already good annual return. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,633 Posted October 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Dr Greenthumb said: They could do that, would seem to be a bit odd. But like your replies to anything, cool twist on it. To be honest I didn't think you were being serious because the coolest twist came from your reply. 🙃 At the time we launched the bond scheme we had no PL money. Just millions of debt associated to it. The canaries bond was called a begging bowl by some on here. It was said if the owners couldn't finance it they should sell up to someone who could. (Like it's that easy anyway) I just wondered now the much wished for Tony Fernandes had imitated our successful bond scheme these posters thought he too had got out the begging bowl and should perhaps sell to someone who could afford it themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,178 Posted October 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Dr Greenthumb said: Thanks, I’d rather you contributed to the discussion, instead of picking at peoples grammar. Actually, I think I did both? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Greenthumb 750 Posted October 2, 2021 49 minutes ago, Nuff Said said: Actually, I think I did both? Last time you thought something, you ended up editing your post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,303 Posted October 2, 2021 52 minutes ago, Nuff Said said: Actually, I think I did both? Although you didn't pick up on someone's post on this thread and their incorrect spelling of immitation?..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Greenthumb 750 Posted October 2, 2021 16 minutes ago, Mello Yello said: Although you didn't pick up on someone's post on this thread and their incorrect spelling of immitation?..... Clique? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,178 Posted October 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Mello Yello said: Although you didn't pick up on someone's post on this thread and their incorrect spelling of immitation?..... I humbly apologise for not diligently reading every post and checking it. TBH, I haven’t been on here often recently, it’s too much of a toxic mix of hindsight, know-it-alls and despair. And then when I do there’s a massive thread started by Parma full of lengthy posts and I just don’t have the will to wade through it. Still, our first point today, onwards and upwards eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,303 Posted October 2, 2021 Just now, Nuff Said said: I humbly apologise for not diligently reading every post and checking it. TBH, I haven’t been on here often recently, it’s too much of a toxic mix of hindsight, know-it-alls and despair. And then when I do there’s a massive thread started by Parma full of lengthy posts and I just don’t have the will to wade through it. Still, our first point today, onwards and upwards eh? Lame...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commonsense 647 Posted October 2, 2021 7 hours ago, Big Vince said: Producing home grown players is not benefiting Norwich City - only the clubs they are fed to. The money they get for them keeps the Socialists in control because for them self-funding is the only way to stay in control. Webber is just a proxy in all of this. It is a business model, not a flesh and blood football club. Yup best give control to a bunch of rich Americans. That’s working really well at the moment!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Official Fact Check Bot 1 Posted October 2, 2021 12 hours ago, hogesar said: No, they had a rich owner who some on here wanted to buy NCFC, who's thrown away millions of pounds and not even been able to deliver a single promotion. OFFICIAL FORUM FACT CHECK Verdict: Fake News Explanation: Fernandes became the majority shareholder of QPR in August 2011, just after they had won promotion to the Premier League. They were relegated in the 2012/13 season but then won promotion via the play-offs in the 2013/14 season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paddycanary 539 Posted October 2, 2021 12 hours ago, Graham Paddons Beard said: What do you mean “pined for” Tony Fernandez? Maybe he was pining for the fjords? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,633 Posted October 2, 2021 55 minutes ago, paddycanary said: Maybe he was pining for the fjords? PININ' for the FJORDS?!?!?!?!?!? What kind of talk is that? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Vince 319 Posted October 3, 2021 18 hours ago, Commonsense said: Yup best give control to a bunch of rich Americans. That’s working really well at the moment!!! Rich Americans at Liverpool, right? Rich Americans at Manure, right? Rich American at Arsenal, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Vince 319 Posted October 3, 2021 On 02/10/2021 at 11:07, wcorkcanary said: Now thats getting close to real socialism. Plus all supporters of promoted clubs must use any spare rooms in their dwelling to rehouse the homeless. I wonder how many rooms in her Stowmarket house are currently being given up to the Suffolk homeless? Do socialists lead by example? If so, how do they square that with taking chartered flights to away games? Surely they should be biking it? After all, that's what Norman Tebbitt's dad did - and he was a working-class Tory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites