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12 hours ago, Iwans Big Toe said:

See, this is the thing from far leftists (f**c**ts). You automatically assume that anyone that disagrees with you must be right wing. If you criticise anything on the left, you must be alt-right, if you point out that CNN is a bunch of lying hypocrites you must support Fox. If you don't like Joe Biden, you must be a MAGA conspiracist. 

In reality it is the most narrow minded of views, from people who profess to be "open minded", but in your comments you prove yourself to be b*g***d .

 

Read between the ****s.

I would if you were but you are not. You are posting on this thread for your own reason and I very much doubt it matches your plea that you are merely a journalist to the facts. Most of your posts from the media are hardly mainstream with public airtime but from people who have to use the internet to publish there point of view.

Personally, I think Biden is way too old to be president of the Golf Club let alone the US and I cannot believe that country reputed to be the strongest on the planet has elected a lying egotist followed by a senile old man.

But he appoints advisers just like any other President. And so rather than publish the facts about the economy etc, all we are hearing is the old lies that the election was stolen which drown s out anything else.

And the nonsense and misinformation being spread about his administration by Fox, the GOP and QAnon is totally out of order. And quite bizarre actually. We are waiting on a report from a civil servant to see if our PM has been lying. In the US, it seems you start lying about the President first and then wait for the reaction.

And Biden got the nod over Sanders because Sanders was considered a socialist! And who started that idea?

Of course I am left wing, don't need Ms **** to tell you that. And after having slurs thrown at us by the right for so long about Corbyn was a Marxist, terrorist, looney, IRA member you will pardon me if we have a little kick back.

Its time you faced the facts. Politics is now just a question of with us or against us. Its been polarised. There is no consensus. When I post on here I now have to respond with more extreme views than is warranted just to counter the labels that the left had had sewn in their clothing after 12 years of I'm alright Jack.

 

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Despite having poor numbers on approval ratings Biden still comes out on top against the two likely GOP candidates.

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/shock-poll-shows-biden-leading-desantis-and-trump-bigly-in-hypothetical-2024-matchups/

The Marquette poll found that in a matchup against Trump, Biden would receive about 43% of the votes, while Trump would garner 33%. Sixteen percent of respondents would find another candidate, while 6% said they would simply refrain from voting in a rematch of 2020.

DeSantis performed better than Trump in the poll, but not by much.

Marquette’s survey showed Biden would receive 41% to DeSantis’ 33%.

This is the strangest part of the poll.

The bad news for Trump: 67% of respondents said they had a decidedly unfavorable view of him, while 28% viewed him favorably. Somehow, 1% of respondents did not know much about the former president. 

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This is the insanity that President Biden is dealing with.... not even a semblance of adherence to the truth.

 

 

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8 hours ago, horsefly said:

 

 

 

Oh, look who's back with his Trump love in posting on a Biden page.

The infatuation is astounding. 

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On 28/01/2022 at 11:14, keelansgrandad said:

I would if you were but you are not. You are posting on this thread for your own reason and I very much doubt it matches your plea that you are merely a journalist to the facts. Most of your posts from the media are hardly mainstream with public airtime but from people who have to use the internet to publish there point of view.

Personally, I think Biden is way too old to be president of the Golf Club let alone the US and I cannot believe that country reputed to be the strongest on the planet has elected a lying egotist followed by a senile old man.

But he appoints advisers just like any other President. And so rather than publish the facts about the economy etc, all we are hearing is the old lies that the election was stolen which drown s out anything else.

And the nonsense and misinformation being spread about his administration by Fox, the GOP and QAnon is totally out of order. And quite bizarre actually. We are waiting on a report from a civil servant to see if our PM has been lying. In the US, it seems you start lying about the President first and then wait for the reaction.

And Biden got the nod over Sanders because Sanders was considered a socialist! And who started that idea?

Of course I am left wing, don't need Ms **** to tell you that. And after having slurs thrown at us by the right for so long about Corbyn was a Marxist, terrorist, looney, IRA member you will pardon me if we have a little kick back.

Its time you faced the facts. Politics is now just a question of with us or against us. Its been polarised. There is no consensus. When I post on here I now have to respond with more extreme views than is warranted just to counter the labels that the left had had sewn in their clothing after 12 years of I'm alright Jack.

 

Playing the victim. Classic left wing tactic. You have not been the victim in many a year. In fact you have assaulted all conservative values at every opportunity for the las 40+ years.

Playing the victim, from a position of power? Jog on!

 

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4 hours ago, horsefly said:

hahaha! How thick do you have to be to think posting vids of Trump's gaffes is racist. You really should get those two brain cells of yours to collide once in a while.

Is orange a race?? Silly nazis.😂

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On 03/02/2022 at 00:40, Iwans Big Toe said:

One of these guys has dressed in black face, which one?

One of those guys took out a full page newspaper advert calling for five black and Latino teenagers accused of the rape of a white woman to be executed (known as the "Central Park 5"). After many years spent in prison (following Trump's public campaign to have them executed) all five were proven to be innocent beyond doubt by later DNA tests. The actual perpetrator was later proven guilty by DNA tests and a personal confession. Trump STILL refuses to apologise for his advert and public campaign for the execution of INNOCENT black teenagers, and he STILL unbelievably maintains they were guilty despite their complete exoneration.  I wonder which the black community will find more egregious; Trudeau's stupid face blacking or Trump's attempt to have innocent black and Latino teenagers executed?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/18/18684217/trump-central-park-5-netflix

(PBS have also produced an excellent documentary about the Central Park Five for those interested)

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On 03/02/2022 at 00:18, Iwans Big Toe said:

Playing the victim. Classic left wing tactic. You have not been the victim in many a year. In fact you have assaulted all conservative values at every opportunity for the las 40+ years.

Playing the victim, from a position of power? Jog on!

 

Your response is what I expected. If we are playing the victim then your pretence at innocence is remarkably predictable. Like the pathetic reasoning that Biden is left wing or a paedophile. You just say it but very rarely retract it. In the last seven years we have had nothing but proven lies from the politicians you purport to support. Trump and Johnson have turned politics back to the old system of lying and making statements that blame people without proof.

The latest lie from Johnson about Starmer was met with a grudging I understand he wasn't involved in the Saville case rather than I am terribly sorry to have slurred the leader of the opposition. But so many heard the first lie but won't bother to read the rest.

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6 hours ago, horsefly said:

One of those guys took out a full page newspaper advert calling for five black and Latino teenagers accused of the rape of a white woman to be executed (known as the "Central Park 5"). After many years spent in prison (following Trump's public campaign to have them executed) all five were proven to be innocent beyond doubt by later DNA tests. The actual perpetrator was later proven guilty by DNA tests and a personal confession. Trump STILL refuses to apologise for his advert and public campaign for the execution of INNOCENT black teenagers, and he STILL unbelievably maintains they were guilty despite their complete exoneration.  I wonder which the black community will find more egregious; Trudeau's stupid face blacking or Trump's attempt to have innocent black and Latino teenagers executed?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/18/18684217/trump-central-park-5-netflix

(PBS have also produced an excellent documentary about the Central Park Five for those interested)

This is simply untrue 

Trump did not demand the Central Park 5 be executed. In fact his full-page ads did not even mention the Central Park 5 suspects. 

Back in April 1989 long befor Trump was President there was a series of rapes, murders and riots taking place on several nights where the mayor Koch of New York had seemingly lost control of the situation and Central Park became a dangerous place to be. 

Trump, who was a New York businessman took out a series of ads asking for the restoration of the death penalty in New York for murder. He did not mention the suspects in the Central Park case. 

Your attempt to claim Trump ran a campaign to have the CP5 executed is a gross distortion of the facts. 

I have included the actual advertisement so that posters can see that Horsefly is a liar. 

 

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Meanwhile back to the subject - President Biden:

This is what happens when the "press" are really just propaganda channels - their setup : 

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And what happened - best economic recovery on record, growth blasting through all predictions. 

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34 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said:

I already posted the advertisement placed in the newspapers by Donald Trump. Now find me the names of the Central Park 5 and where he calls for them to be executed. The names you are looking for are: Kevin Richardson, Antron McCray, Raymond Santana, Korey Wise, and Yusef Salaam. Alternatively, if you find this difficult then you can instead find the reference to Central Park 5. If you can't find any reference to the people involved in the rape and attempted murder of the Central Park jogger then you are simply a liar and should apologise.

This post is straight out of No10. Talk about splitting hairs. The whole world apart from you knows what Trump meant with those adverts and who he was meaning. Mother of God, he wanted juveniles to face the death penalty. He later changed it to police officer killers to get the death penalty.

Lets face it. How many of his "fellow Americans" did he kill by initially refusing to accept Covid19 was a killer virus.

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1 hour ago, keelansgrandad said:

This post is straight out of No10. Talk about splitting hairs. The whole world apart from you knows what Trump meant with those adverts and who he was meaning. Mother of God, he wanted juveniles to face the death penalty. He later changed it to police officer killers to get the death penalty.

Lets face it. How many of his "fellow Americans" did he kill by initially refusing to accept Covid19 was a killer virus.

You are another fool who lacks reading comprehension. In April 1989, Central Park area was awash with rioting, muggings, rape and murder. Imagine a BLM era before BLM. On the day of the rape of the jogger, a string of other assaults and robberies were taking place, in which the Central Park 5 were instigators. It wasn't just a single event but multiple events, including murder, taking place. With the city out of control, several people, of which Donald Trump was one called for the implementation of the death penalty for murder to be introduced to New York State.

If you could have been bothered to read the advertisement for yourself you would have found this information. You would also have found no mention of those individuals who were charged with rape. But no, you just believed what the mainstream press are telling you because you are too dumb and too lazy to find out for yourself the truth. Horsefly lied, as he usually does because he wants to believe a narrative that doesn't actually exist except in his frazzled brain.

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38 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said:

You are another fool who lacks reading comprehension. In April 1989, Central Park area was awash with rioting, muggings, rape and murder. Imagine a BLM era before BLM. On the day of the rape of the jogger, a string of other assaults and robberies were taking place, in which the Central Park 5 were instigators. It wasn't just a single event but multiple events, including murder, taking place. With the city out of control, several people, of which Donald Trump was one called for the implementation of the death penalty for murder to be introduced to New York State.

If you could have been bothered to read the advertisement for yourself you would have found this information. You would also have found no mention of those individuals who were charged with rape. But no, you just believed what the mainstream press are telling you because you are too dumb and too lazy to find out for yourself the truth. Horsefly lied, as he usually does because he wants to believe a narrative that doesn't actually exist except in his frazzled brain.

I have read the advertisement. And for legal reasons, probably by the newspaper's lawyers, not Trumps, specific mention of the five accused was referenced. But it also says when "they" kill, they should be executed. But in other interviews, Trump made it quite clear who he was referring to.

So I guess you are the fool that even Donald Trump can be too subtle for.

Why don't you pack in with all this bull about Trump? He is a egotistical, bigoted, racist, mysoginistic, liar and you defend him. He is a cruel man with no grace or feeling for his fellow human beings and just says things that the knuckle draggers love to hear. Life isn't black and white until people like you elect pillocks like this man.

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So now RTB, the GOP have censured Cheney and Kizinger for taking part in the Jan 6 committee. They say they are persecuting ordinary people who wanted to participate in "legitimate political discourse" on that day when rioting and seizing the Capitol Building.

Boris is almost virtuous compared to Trump.

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17 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

So now RTB, the GOP have censured Cheney and Kizinger for taking part in the Jan 6 committee. They say they are persecuting ordinary people who wanted to participate in "legitimate political discourse" on that day when rioting and seizing the Capitol Building.

Boris is almost virtuous compared to Trump.

Indeed

Some people always back the liars and the mad man.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60266121

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19 hours ago, horsefly said:

One of those guys took out a full page newspaper advert calling for five black and Latino teenagers accused of the rape of a white woman to be executed (known as the "Central Park 5"). After many years spent in prison (following Trump's public campaign to have them executed) all five were proven to be innocent beyond doubt by later DNA tests. The actual perpetrator was later proven guilty by DNA tests and a personal confession. Trump STILL refuses to apologise for his advert and public campaign for the execution of INNOCENT black teenagers, and he STILL unbelievably maintains they were guilty despite their complete exoneration.  I wonder which the black community will find more egregious; Trudeau's stupid face blacking or Trump's attempt to have innocent black and Latino teenagers executed?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/18/18684217/trump-central-park-5-netflix

(PBS have also produced an excellent documentary about the Central Park Five for those interested)

Weird that I can still see your response even tough I have blocked your nonsense. Oh well best get on with it. So which one of Trump or Trudeau has dressed in blackface? Not interested in any answer other than Trump or fascist Trudeau.

P.S. I've taken a screen shot. The internet never forgets.

 

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16 hours ago, keelansgrandad said:

Your response is what I expected. If we are playing the victim then your pretence at innocence is remarkably predictable. Like the pathetic reasoning that Biden is left wing or a paedophile. You just say it but very rarely retract it. In the last seven years we have had nothing but proven lies from the politicians you purport to support. Trump and Johnson have turned politics back to the old system of lying and making statements that blame people without proof.

The latest lie from Johnson about Starmer was met with a grudging I understand he wasn't involved in the Saville case rather than I am terribly sorry to have slurred the leader of the opposition. But so many heard the first lie but won't bother to read the rest.

Yes its only right wing politicians that lie. Left wing politicians are above reproach, despite the fact that CNN hid the investigation into Hunter Biden until Ex-Vice President Biden had won the election. Completely above board and nothing shady about that at all.

Hypocrite.

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16 hours ago, Rock The Boat said:

This is simply untrue 

Trump did not demand the Central Park 5 be executed. In fact his full-page ads did not even mention the Central Park 5 suspects. 

Back in April 1989 long befor Trump was President there was a series of rapes, murders and riots taking place on several nights where the mayor Koch of New York had seemingly lost control of the situation and Central Park became a dangerous place to be. 

Trump, who was a New York businessman took out a series of ads asking for the restoration of the death penalty in New York for murder. He did not mention the suspects in the Central Park case. 

Your attempt to claim Trump ran a campaign to have the CP5 executed is a gross distortion of the facts. 

I have included the actual advertisement so that posters can see that Horsefly is a liar. 

 

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Clearly you are utterly incapable of reading the many articles, books, or watching the many documentaries about the Central Park Five. There is even a Netflix mini-series about the case. If you had bothered to do some research then you would know that this ad was only one small part of Trump's campaign to victimise these innocent men. Probably most egregious of all was the role he played in ensuring their names, addresses and telephone numbers were published in the press, along with his TV appearances calling on people to violently hate these teenagers (what everyone in the US understood to be an invitation to a good old fashioned lynching). Most weird of all, is that Trump himself doesn't deny any of this but you so desperately want to pretend the opposite. That says even more about you than it does him.

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