lake district canary 4,830 Posted October 2, 2020 People wanted money and resources coming into the club, well they are getting it - £60 million plus for a couple of players, parachute payments of £40m, maybe selling another player or two in Max and Emi would see another £50 - 60 million. I make that £150 - £160 million in the coffers - which allows for buying in further young players and maybe one or two of experience too. So we are losing some of our favourite youngsters, well, we enjoyed them while they were here and it's time to let them move on - we were never going to keep them that long...and don't forget the credit due to the management for bringing those players on. And with all that wealth as a result of all that good work, we still have a good set of players - with new heroes to come through this year and next, with experienced class players still at the club. The project is in full flow, the club is getting wealthier and healthier, with the amount of quality young and experienced players increasing with ELEVEN players brought in. I understand the disappointment at losing Ben, one of my favourite players, but that is football. We are - especially in these present times - well placed to challenge for the top of the table, maybe this year, maybe next, with a real prospect of getting back to the top league (for all it's problems and down side) - so come on people, try and see the upside to it! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,273 Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) Not very revealing LDC. We know all that, but facts are that we lose money as a Championship club and that this will be exacerbated by the virus effect. In other words a lot of that wealth will be eaten up the longer we are in the Chumps and the longer crowds are not permitted. There is also a degree of unsettlement within the club due to all the transfer rumours. It must effect the players, the manager and impact negatively upon performances. Let's hope that the dust settles soon, that we hold on to Emi and Max at least and that any more replacements are the right fit for a challenge. We have already made some decent additions to the squad, imo. In the meantime all we can do is pump our £10 payments into IFollow (despite one good and one duff experience, I will persevere) in order to help the club's finances even more. We have a massive exile following. Edited October 2, 2020 by BroadstairsR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 5,246 Posted October 2, 2020 Yes 11 players brought in and several immediately sent out on loan and i assume you have seen the shortly to be released accounts ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,830 Posted October 2, 2020 1 minute ago, TIL 1010 said: Yes 11 players brought in and several immediately sent out on loan and i assume you have seen the shortly to be released accounts ? Yes, players, some of whom will come through, this season or next. And no I haven't seen the accounts, but they will show the same thing - that the future is secure and the club on a sound footing to carry on investing in youth and finding quality experienced players without spvnking the money up the wall on the likes of Naismith and big money contracts. The money will be there, but it would disappear in no time if we started that game again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NFN FC 1,142 Posted October 2, 2020 We need to scour the league 1 and bottom champs for some homegrown talents. And the foreign markets to find someone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanthecanary 168 Posted October 2, 2020 23 minutes ago, lake district canary said: Yes, players, some of whom will come through, this season or next. And no I haven't seen the accounts, but they will show the same thing - that the future is secure and the club on a sound footing to carry on investing in youth and finding quality experienced players without spvnking the money up the wall on the likes of Naismith and big money contracts. The money will be there, but it would disappear in no time if we started that game again. While I don't disagree with your sentiment, I think it's highly unlikely many of the young players will come through this season considering so many of them are out on loan. Unless of course we can recall them but I guess it depends on the agreement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doomcaster 10 Posted October 2, 2020 NCFC has multi millions to spend - loads of cash available ... We need quality players for this season, and perhaps & next if we get promoted - spend some cash & buy some quality players NOW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Wundaboy 1,423 Posted October 2, 2020 It's great buying young players we can develop and improve and loan out to decent sides to give them experience. That's all great. But to mount a promotion challenge this season we need a squad capable of winning the Championship. So far we've sold Lewis and then immediately loaned out McCallum which leaves us with zero cover at LB (and Xavi's defending is still up for debate) and now we've sold Godfrey which combined with Famewo's loan leaves us with 4 CBs available, 2 of whom spent all or the majority of last season injured and 1 that hasn't played for 2 years. Combine that with the possibility of Aarons being sold leaving just Mumba and a permanently-injured Byram at RB, and everything around Todd and Emi wanting out (and Dowell injured), and suddenly the squad looks very heavy on numbers but lacking in quality needed to mount a serious promotion push. That isn't what we were sold last year when we didn't spent after getting promoted, instead being told that by not spending we could retain our squad post-(inevitable)-relegation and then mount an immediate return attempt. Instead we've sold off 2 of our young players, the other 3 have rumours swirling and the players we have brought in aren't yet showing they have what it takes to get us out of this bloody league. Looking to the future is great. Securing the club financially is necessary. But we have a football competition to win RIGHT NOW and we are in danger of throwing it away before the transfer window closes. We need to bring in some quality to replace what we've lost. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanthecanary 168 Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Canary Wundaboy said: It's great buying young players we can develop and improve and loan out to decent sides to give them experience. That's all great. But to mount a promotion challenge this season we need a squad capable of winning the Championship. So far we've sold Lewis and then immediately loaned out McCallum which leaves us with zero cover at LB (and Xavi's defending is still up for debate) and now we've sold Godfrey which combined with Famewo's loan leaves us with 4 CBs available, 2 of whom spent all or the majority of last season injured and 1 that hasn't played for 2 years. Combine that with the possibility of Aarons being sold leaving just Mumba and a permanently-injured Byram at RB, and everything around Todd and Emi wanting out (and Dowell injured), and suddenly the squad looks very heavy on numbers but lacking in quality needed to mount a serious promotion push. That isn't what we were sold last year when we didn't spent after getting promoted, instead being told that by not spending we could retain our squad post-(inevitable)-relegation and then mount an immediate return attempt. Instead we've sold off 2 of our young players, the other 3 have rumours swirling and the players we have brought in aren't yet showing they have what it takes to get us out of this bloody league. Looking to the future is great. Securing the club financially is necessary. But we have a football competition to win RIGHT NOW and we are in danger of throwing it away before the transfer window closes. We need to bring in some quality to replace what we've lost. Very much agree, there are areas that need addressing even without losing more of our prized assets. We could probably put a side out mostly made up of central midfielders right now if we wanted and we have 4 first team strikers on the books when we always start games with one up top. Yet as you say, we have no left back cover other than asking someone to play outside of their best position and centre backs with a dubious recent injury history. I agree with the self sustaining model because without a billionaire owner, it's the sensible way but the now needs to be looked after just as much as the future. Edited October 2, 2020 by seanthecanary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jerrykerry 223 Posted October 2, 2020 1 hour ago, NFN FC said: We need to scour the league 1 and bottom champs for some homegrown talents. And the foreign markets to find someone. Just maybe we already are... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,783 Posted October 2, 2020 11 hours ago, NFN FC said: We need to scour the league 1 and bottom champs for some homegrown talents. And the foreign markets to find someone. Has anyone considered that we should have a scouting department. ? Revolutionary I know ,but ...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yellowrider120 917 Posted October 2, 2020 12 hours ago, lake district canary said: People wanted money and resources coming into the club, well they are getting it - £60 million plus for a couple of players, parachute payments of £40m, maybe selling another player or two in Max and Emi would see another £50 - 60 million. I make that £150 - £160 million in the coffers - which allows for buying in further young players and maybe one or two of experience too. So we are losing some of our favourite youngsters, well, we enjoyed them while they were here and it's time to let them move on - we were never going to keep them that long...and don't forget the credit due to the management for bringing those players on. And with all that wealth as a result of all that good work, we still have a good set of players - with new heroes to come through this year and next, with experienced class players still at the club. The project is in full flow, the club is getting wealthier and healthier, with the amount of quality young and experienced players increasing with ELEVEN players brought in. I understand the disappointment at losing Ben, one of my favourite players, but that is football. We are - especially in these present times - well placed to challenge for the top of the table, maybe this year, maybe next, with a real prospect of getting back to the top league (for all it's problems and down side) - so come on people, try and see the upside to it! Maths clearly not your strong point is it! Since when does 15 + 25 = 60????!!!!! For a more clear headed analysis of where we are, I suggest you read and digest the post from Canary Wundaboy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny Foggo 1,193 Posted October 2, 2020 10 hours ago, Canary Wundaboy said: It's great buying young players we can develop and improve and loan out to decent sides to give them experience. That's all great. But to mount a promotion challenge this season we need a squad capable of winning the Championship. So far we've sold Lewis and then immediately loaned out McCallum which leaves us with zero cover at LB (and Xavi's defending is still up for debate) and now we've sold Godfrey which combined with Famewo's loan leaves us with 4 CBs available, 2 of whom spent all or the majority of last season injured and 1 that hasn't played for 2 years. Combine that with the possibility of Aarons being sold leaving just Mumba and a permanently-injured Byram at RB, and everything around Todd and Emi wanting out (and Dowell injured), and suddenly the squad looks very heavy on numbers but lacking in quality needed to mount a serious promotion push. That isn't what we were sold last year when we didn't spent after getting promoted, instead being told that by not spending we could retain our squad post-(inevitable)-relegation and then mount an immediate return attempt. Instead we've sold off 2 of our young players, the other 3 have rumours swirling and the players we have brought in aren't yet showing they have what it takes to get us out of this bloody league. Looking to the future is great. Securing the club financially is necessary. But we have a football competition to win RIGHT NOW and we are in danger of throwing it away before the transfer window closes. We need to bring in some quality to replace what we've lost. Absolutely spot on. The promises of last season seem a long long time ago... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,830 Posted October 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, yellowrider120 said: Maths clearly not your strong point is it! Since when does 15 + 25 = 60????!!!!! For a more clear headed analysis of where we are, I suggest you read and digest the post from Canary Wundaboy. Yeah, my mistake, but the maths overall suggests good finances, meaning long term well being. As for Canary Wundaboy's post, it makes assumptions that players we have after any sales would not be good enough - but that is just unknowable. We don't know who may rise to the challenge, who might be the heroes of the season. I'm not assuming they will be good enough, but I'm not assuming they won't be good enough either. What I can see is that we have Quintilla and Gibson as replacements for the two that have been sold - and that is reassuring. We don't know who else might go, but even if the three other starlets all went, then there would almost certainly be one or two more brought in to strengthen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
