Dean Coneys boots 1,531 Posted July 11, 2020 Most of the team out there today, and this season, we signed for a small amount of money for a fight against relegation in the champ. They came from lower divisions home and abroad and most were a gamble. Pukki, lest we forget, was free for a reason. against all odds the gamble paid off. The team gelled and massively over achieved but then the board chose not to back them on promotion and they have been found out. The bottom line is that they lack the athleticism and size, and often the talent too, for the prem and this has been clear for a long time. Hardly their fault. The manager was not backed either and it isn’t his fault that you can’t, to use an analogy, compete in F1 when handed a fiat punto! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Move Klose 303 Posted July 11, 2020 Some of what you say is right. But weve conceded 12 goals from set pieces this season, that's something that should've been looked at months ago. Zonal marking costs us every game since project restart. Players have no confidence or motivation, who's job is that. Manager, players, both? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,680 Posted July 11, 2020 But you can only comment on what you see and most felt we were in with a chance after lockdown but we were worse. So the players and management take the blame for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted July 11, 2020 What's with rewriting Pukki's achievements? He produced throughout last season. Then for half this season? Now he was free for a reason? Come on Bootsie! Get back to organising protests. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeiranShikari 1,524 Posted July 11, 2020 I mean he was free for a reason, his last contract ran down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dean Coneys boots 1,531 Posted July 11, 2020 I wasn’t having a go at pukki. Merely pointing out that we took a punt on a freebie and nobody could have guessed how much he would blossom. The man has been awesome- but the club most assuredly did not pay for a top quality striker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardhouse44 289 Posted July 11, 2020 They haven’t been on the wages of players fighting relegation in the championship all this season have they. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mason 47 1,924 Posted July 11, 2020 22 minutes ago, Move Klose said: Some of what you say is right. But weve conceded 12 goals from set pieces this season, that's something that should've been looked at months ago. Zonal marking costs us every game since project restart. Players have no confidence or motivation, who's job is that. Manager, players, both? *12 goals from corners alone as I understand it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dean Coneys boots 1,531 Posted July 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, Hardhouse44 said: They haven’t been on the wages of players fighting relegation in the championship all this season have they. What they get paid doesn’t change their ability or size. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardhouse44 289 Posted July 11, 2020 So why fecking waste all that money paying them if they aren’t good enough. we were beaten before we started this season. Bad management has just compounded It to make a difficult season in to $odding disaster. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dean Coneys boots 1,531 Posted July 11, 2020 Fair question. Back to the board because, in the absence of a budget to sign improvements, there was little choice but to improve the contracts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alfie54 83 Posted July 11, 2020 Does anybody think that Farke and the players looked motivated today? We continually give away pointless free kicks around our box that we seem incapable of then defending. How can a player as tall as Klose not bother to jump to defend a cross? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yellowrider120 917 Posted July 11, 2020 32 minutes ago, Move Klose said: Some of what you say is right. But weve conceded 12 goals from set pieces this season, that's something that should've been looked at months ago. Zonal marking costs us every game since project restart. Players have no confidence or motivation, who's job is that. Manager, players, both? Correct but unfortunately what we have with Farke is a 'coach' who can improve players basic ability to make them 'comfortable on the ball' but hasn't got a clue about setting up a team to defend. He should have dealt with it last season and didn't. He should have dealt with it last summer and didn't. He should have dealt with it during this season and hasn't. Watch the second goal today. Two centre backs go for the same man! One of those doesn't even jump FFS!. Now watch the LAST goal. Our so called 'world class centre half' stands and watches Antonio as the cross comes into the near post. He (Godfrey) is flat footed and doesn't react at all as the ball is played in. I'm sorry but NONE of this basic stuff is down to 'lack of funding' but is EVERYTHING to do with rubbish coaching. Nothing will change unless Herr Farke is told that 'your time is up'. and we get a manager in who can get a team and defence to defend! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rich T The Biscuit 676 Posted July 11, 2020 31 minutes ago, Alfie54 said: Does anybody think that Farke and the players looked motivated today? We continually give away pointless free kicks around our box that we seem incapable of then defending. How can a player as tall as Klose not bother to jump to defend a cross? From what I saw it was a case of players not really up for it; now is that because they know we are relegated and either don't want to get injured or they are told not to so that we go into next season without any injuries or is it because half of them know they won't be here and don't want to injured and risk losing out on a move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don’t be Krul 452 Posted July 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Alfie54 said: Does anybody think that Farke and the players looked motivated today? We continually give away pointless free kicks around our box that we seem incapable of then defending. How can a player as tall as Klose not bother to jump to defend a cross? Farke looked like he couldn't give a toss. Didn't even get off his chuff during 1st half drinks break Share this post Link to post Share on other sites