horsefly 4,300 Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said: THAT SAYS NOTHING ! How about The NHS getting £415 a week more than it did in 2016 An extra £60 Billion in response to Covid -19 over 21,000 more doctors and 17,000 nurses plus pay rises of at least 6.5% The UK Has one of the highest vaccination globaly How about The NHS getting £415 a week more than it did in 2016 Well you probably got that figure about right. An extra £60 Billion in response to Covid -19 Nothing to do with brexit over 21,000 more doctors and 17,000 nurses Nothing to do with brexit, although the massive difficulty in filling vacancies certainly is. plus pay rises of at least 6.5% Nothing to do with brexit The UK Has one of the highest vaccination globaly Nothing to do with brexit, and I must admit neither is our sky-high infection rate, nor the fact we are 4th in the world for confirmed cases (https://covid19.who.int/). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,208 Posted November 19, 2021 The UK Has one of the highest vaccination globaly Based on % of population that is a bare faced lie. In the last couple of days you also said you didnt say anything about vaccinations, another lie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,208 Posted November 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, horsefly said: How about The NHS getting £415 a week more than it did in 2016 Well you probably got that figure about right. An extra £60 Billion in response to Covid -19 Nothing to do with brexit over 21,000 more doctors and 17,000 nurses Nothing to do with brexit, although the massive difficulty in filling vacancies certainly is. plus pay rises of at least 6.5% Nothing to do with brexit The UK Has one of the highest vaccination globaly Nothing to do with brexit, and I must admit neither is our sky-high infection rate, nor the fact we are 4th in the world for confirmed cases (https://covid19.who.int/). He also forgot our 18.8 billion borrowing last month Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,208 Posted November 19, 2021 over 21,000 more doctors and 17,000 nurses Unforunately the NHS lost more than 3 times that number, and the government have said they are way off track at hitting their targets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,768 Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said: THAT SAYS NOTHING ! How about The NHS getting £415 a week more than it did in 2016 An extra £60 Billion in response to Covid -19 In response to Covid...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,208 Posted November 19, 2021 2 hours ago, SwindonCanary said: What say you Well b back Channel migrants: Only five migrants returned to Europe this year - BBC News Unfortunately as I learnt on Question Time last night, when we were in the EU we could return them to France. Unfortunately since we left under the deal signed we cannot return migrants. What say you again ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted November 19, 2021 Pleased to see this LONDON — Spain has scrapped its post-Brexit visa requirements for British touring performers in a win for the U.K. industry. The Spanish government announced that British musicians, dancers and theater performers and their crews will no longer require visas to tour Spain for fewer than 90 days in each 180-day period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,768 Posted November 19, 2021 Yes, it's great that we are getting back little bits of what we already had and threw away. Bravo. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted November 19, 2021 Just now, Herman said: Yes, it's great that we are getting back little bits of what we already had and threw away. Bravo. Shame there was no arrangement negotiated but some progress it seems Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,768 Posted November 19, 2021 We were offered it..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted November 19, 2021 2 hours ago, A Load of Squit said: 7,800 new doctors. https://fullfact.org/health/doctor-nhs-increase/ 11,000 new nurses https://www.nmc.org.uk/about-us/reports-and-accounts/registration-statistics/ nurses on our permanent register grew from by 11,331 (1.7 percent) to 692,858 they are on there way, you can't just get them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, horsefly said: How about The NHS getting £415 a week more than it did in 2016 Well you probably got that figure about right. An extra £60 Billion in response to Covid -19 Nothing to do with brexit over 21,000 more doctors and 17,000 nurses Nothing to do with brexit, although the massive difficulty in filling vacancies certainly is. plus pay rises of at least 6.5% Nothing to do with brexit The UK Has one of the highest vaccination globaly Nothing to do with brexit, and I must admit neither is our sky-high infection rate, nor the fact we are 4th in the world for confirmed cases (https://covid19.who.int/). So everything this government does not matter if it has not to do with Brexit ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Herman said: We were offered it..... Yep shame it wasn't sorted at the time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted November 19, 2021 Think I''ll repeat that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,300 Posted November 19, 2021 54 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: So everything this government does not matter if it has not to do with Brexit ? It was you who posted the list in reponse to Herman's comment "brexit means brexit". FFS! surely you have some basic grasp of what you post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted November 19, 2021 Just now, horsefly said: It was you who posted the list in reponse to Herman's comment " brexit means brexit ". FFS! surely you have some basic grasp of what you post. his reply was just " brexit means brexit " = look at the question Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,300 Posted November 19, 2021 23 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: Think I''ll repeat that For that to have any relevance please add the stats about the prior state of the economies of those particular countries. It's very easy to to have a predicted high growth rate when your ecomony was previously down the pan. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,300 Posted November 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: his reply was just " brexit means brexit " = look at the question That's what I just said you moron. It was you who then replied with a list of things that had nothing to do with brexit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted November 19, 2021 just proves that we are doing well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1902 1,167 Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) 58 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: his reply was just " brexit means brexit " = look at the question Unfortunately, this is once again cherry picked statistics from the Brexit crowd. The same report also stated how much of these countries GDP had been lost during 2020. The UK was 9.8%, Germany was 4.6%. So in the next year, the German economy is expected to be 1.4% smaller than its pre-pandemic size, whereas the UK is expected to be 3% smaller. Now reading further on, the UK is also expected to have higher growth in 2022 and 2023, but that still only closes up the gap caused by 2020. When you consider that per capita, Germany is about 17% richer than us, so comes from a higher base. It's very possible that lower German growth rates in 2022 and 2023 will still result in a widening of the income gap between Brits and Germans. Edited November 19, 2021 by 1902 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobJames 881 Posted November 19, 2021 6 hours ago, SwindonCanary said: What say you Well b back Channel migrants: Only five migrants returned to Europe this year - BBC News Well spotted. The UK cannot return asylum seekers. So the number has increased three fold. Is that another brexit bonus? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,768 Posted November 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, RobJames said: Well spotted. The UK cannot return asylum seekers. So the number has increased three fold. Is that another brexit bonus? Therein lies one of the problems with Swindo. He posts a link thinking he's making a great point for his side, but fails to read any of it, so by the third small paragraph it points out how **** brexit is. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Fever 3,789 Posted November 19, 2021 28 minutes ago, 1902 said: Unfortunately, this is once again cherry picked statistics from the Brexit crowd. The same report also stated how much of these countries GDP had been lost during 2020. The UK was 9.8%, Germany was 4.6%. So in the next year, the German economy is expected to be 1.4% smaller than its pre-pandemic size, whereas the UK is expected to be 3% smaller. Now reading further on, the UK is also expected to have higher growth in 2022 and 2023, but that still only closes up the gap caused by 2020. When you consider that per capita, Germany is about 17% richer than us, so comes from a higher base. It's very possible that lower German growth rates in 2022 and 2023 will still result in a widening of the income gap between Brits and Germans. Thanks 1902. It all too complicated for SC and his ilk. Easy prey for fraudsters. Perhaps we should give him a 9.8% benefit/pension cut followed by 6.76 rise. Maybe then the penny will sink (pun) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted November 19, 2021 Just now, Herman said: Therein lies one of the problems with Swindo. He posts a link thinking he's making a great point for his side, but fails to read any of it, so by the third small paragraph it points out how **** brexit is. there's no problem with me ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1902 1,167 Posted November 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: there's no problem with me ! Unfortunately Swindon our experience suggests otherwise. Possibly due to the number of times this forum proves that the evidence you post can't stand up to a stiff breeze. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobJames 881 Posted November 19, 2021 5 hours ago, SwindonCanary said: THAT SAYS NOTHING ! How about The NHS getting £415 a week more than it did in 2016 An extra £60 Billion in response to Covid -19 over 21,000 more doctors and 17,000 nurses plus pay rises of at least 6.5% The UK Has one of the highest vaccination globaly "A new report is supporting calls for the nurse pay system in the UK to be reviewed, as it finds that nurses’ pay has fallen in real-terms by 5% on average over the past decade." Nursing Times 16th November 2021 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted November 19, 2021 pay rises of at least 6.5% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,168 Posted November 19, 2021 2 hours ago, SwindonCanary said: they are on there way, you can't just get them You've just admitted (again) that you lied. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
