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7 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

you said 60  !

Name just 10 of them ! Don't forget they have to be free trade deals 

 

still want the bet

£10 for every one under 40 I will pay PUPS

£5 everyone over 40 you pay PUPS

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It should be astonishing that someone so assertive in his views does not, over fours years after the referendim, have even the most basic knowledge of the EU.

Someone who does not know that the EU has even 10 free trade deals never mind 60 plus, Does not even know what deals it has with other countries outside of the above,

Does not understand what benefits the UK has enjoyed by being part of this huge trading bloc that has been able to throw its weight about - allowing trade to flourish

We, do yourself a favour and for once inform yourself by reading the link below

 

"The European Union has concluded free trade agreements (FTAs)[1] and other agreements with a trade component with many countries worldwide and is negotiating with many others.[2]

The European Union negotiates free trade deals on behalf of all of its member states, as the member states have granted the EU has an "exclusive competence" to conclude trade agreements. Even so, member states governments control every step of the process (via the Council of Ministers, whose members are national ministers from each national government)."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_free_trade_agreements

🙈 read it, and know how much you have been lying 🙈

 

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1 hour ago, Rock The Boat said:

Strewth, this story is a year old

Around the same age and mentality as Lefty Remainiacs then 🙃

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58 minutes ago, Bill said:

 read it, and know how much you have been lying 🙈

 

Read the previous posts I've made in this thread via Facts4EU, Billock -- They're facts not lies --- You obviously need reminding:

 

So how many free trade agreements does the EU actually have in force?

According to the Trade Directorate of the EU Commission, only 11 out of the claimed 100 trade agreements are actually in force:-

  • Switzerland - Agreement
  • Faroe Islands - Agreement
  • Turkey - Customs union
  • Iceland - Economic Area Agreement
  • Norway - Economic Area Agreement
  • Liechtenstein - Economic Area Agreement
  • South Korea - Free Trade Agreement
  • Singapore - Free Trade Agreement
  • Vietnam - Free Trade Agreement
  • Mexico - Global Agreement
  • Japan - Global agreement

We have excluded “Association”, “Partnership and Cooperation”, and “Stabilisation and Association” Agreements as these are not real trade agreements. We have also excluded Andorra and San Marino as they are both effectively part of the EU. (The French President, Emmanuel Macron, is even the “Co-Prince of Andorra”.) It is possible to make a similar argument about the Faroe Islands in relation to Denmark, but we let that one stand.

There are of course trade deals which are not yet in force, but is America, China, or India on the list? No.

 

[ Sources: Daily Express ] Politicians, journalists and deluded Remainiac ***** like Billock, Purplebellender, Herman, BF, Smurfer etc..  can contact us for details, as ever.

Brexit Facts4EU.Org, Sun 23 Aug 2020

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You do realize that the link you provided says the guidance offered is out of date - since March 2020 to be precise?    

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This is the latest information. It lists the agreements that have already been agreed.

Even though Swindon said that we couldn't agree any deals until we have left and we would have to wait the Government has ignored him and ploughed ahead.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/uk-trade-agreements-with-non-eu-countries

Even the Government know that Swindon is an idiot. Leaving Swindon as the only person who does not know that Swindon is an idiot.

One day he may catch up with the rest of us.

 

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14 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said:

This is the latest information. It lists the agreements that have already been agreed.

Even though Swindon said that we couldn't agree any deals until we have left and we would have to wait the Government has ignored him and ploughed ahead.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/uk-trade-agreements-with-non-eu-countries

Even the Government know that Swindon is an idiot. Leaving Swindon as the only person who does not know that Swindon is an idiot.

One day he may catch up with the rest of us.

 

Where EU trade agreements apply, UK and EU content will continue to count toward the rules of origin requirements in EU trade agreements until 31 December 2020, in exactly the same way as now.

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8 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

Where EU trade agreements apply, UK and EU content will continue to count toward the rules of origin requirements in EU trade agreements until 31 December 2020, in exactly the same way as now.

Yes, but that does not mean that we cannot agree trade deals now which is what you said yesterday.

You're still an idiot.

 

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oh dear, poor simple minded mouse brain

his claim was about free trade deals the EU had with none EU countries, he now claims to be right about that because he posts up an out of date statement regarding the EU and the UK

truly an idiot of outstanding levels

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a decision based on complete ignorance of both the EU's workings and structures

an ignorance you seem determined to remind us of on an almost daily basis

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We've reached the point with Swindon and Jools and RTB that we'll never convince them their choice, however much they believed in it at the time, was misguided. They will probably go to their graves insisting Brexit was the right policy and everything that happened since then happened because the mission was sabotaged. Like Boers formalizing "living apart" or "apart heid" to preserve their status quo in South Africa, they will never let go. So be it. 

We'll continue to correct the record and illuminate facts for those who are open minded and the next generation of US and UK voters. 

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14 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

At least I was not say that it would never happen  🤣

Do remind us all the exact date when the UK left the Single Market, the Customs union, the ECJ and ended freedom of movement

And I remember your lot claiming that the UK would not pay the 'divorce bill, and there was certainly no talk of having an EU border in UK sovereign territory

Otherwise perhaps you could update us about all those EU free trade deals that you claimed didn't exist

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wait and see Japan will complete a deal that goes beyond the EU deal next week !

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1 minute ago, SwindonCanary said:

wait and see

so why post your idiot claim if we have to wait and see ?

now what about the lies you posted about the EU and free trade deals with other countries ?

does the EU already have existing free trade deals, and why will the UK be about the only country not in a trading bloc if it were to leave the EU ?

is that a good idea ?

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34 minutes ago, Surfer said:

We've reached the point with Swindon and Jools and RTB that we'll never convince them their choice, however much they believed in it at the time, was misguided. They will probably go to their graves insisting Brexit was the right policy and everything that happened since then happened because the mission was sabotaged. Like Boers formalizing "living apart" or "apart heid" to preserve their status quo in South Africa, they will never let go. So be it. 

We'll continue to correct the record and illuminate facts for those who are open minded and the next generation of US and UK voters. 

It is a belief ststem, so now, reasoned argument will not change their fundementalism 0 much as the nutters in the Missle East who cling to nonsense about some invisible man hiding in the clouds.

What is disturbing, and what these extremists have is a blanket refusal to accept what is an obvious fact.

There is no more evidence that the UK will be better off outside of the EU, than there is some loon blowing himself up will be 'awarded; 72 virgins in some supposed after life.

But there is hard evidence trading under WTO rules will hamstring the UK over tariffs and quotas. That is not opinion, but the known rules of the WTO, but the brexit thickos somehow delude themselves that like the EU is supposed to be able to do, it can make an exception for the UK and change the rules..... just for the UK

..... or perhaps they have not the honesty to admit in public that they were stupid enough to swallow lies from Farage, Johnson and IDS.

After all, it is not as if those three are habitual liars is it ?

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19 hours ago, Jools said:

Politicians, journalists and deluded Remainiac ***** like Billock, Purplebellender, Herman, BF, Smurfer etc..  can contact us for details, as ever.

Brexit Facts4EU.Org, Sun 23 Aug 2020

Sweet of you to think of me, Jools, as I have hardly been posting  on either of the Brexit threads for quite a while now. But since you're plainly missing me I will make your day by reviving something I originally posted nearly three years ago (doesn't time fly when we're all having so much fun?!) on October 7, 2017:

That  leading Brexiters (and posters here) have begun to accept staying in the single market won’t happen is evidenced by growing reliance on the fallback claim that a deal with the WTO – something that played little or no part in their campaign arguments – will be just as good.

I would like to say there is a solution to this, but I have yet to see one put forward. Which is not surprising. The problem is that Brexiters as a whole voted for two contradictory aims. In crude terms, the referendum is forcing the UK to decide between sovereignty (or at least an idea of sovereignty) and economic health.

 

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3 hours ago, Surfer said:

We've reached the point with Swindon and Jools and RTB that we'll never convince them their choice, however much they believed in it at the time, was misguided. They will probably go to their graves insisting Brexit was the right policy and everything that happened since then happened because the mission was sabotaged. Like Boers formalizing "living apart" or "apart heid" to preserve their status quo in South Africa, they will never let go. So be it. 

We'll continue to correct the record and illuminate facts for those who are open minded and the next generation of US and UK voters. 

Brexit was all about returning sovereignty to the UK, from day one and the British people were smart enough to realise that the European journey was a misguided one. The EU still hasn't accepted the legitimacy of our sovereignty and the Remainers never understood (or didn't want to understand) what sovereignty meant, but most of us did and with crossed fingers we may actually achieve it. Those who have tried to deny us our democratic victory still haven't given up and I suppose even after next year they won't give up, so I'm not yet ready to celebrate our victory but each day that passes brings our goal of freedom that little bit nearer.

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Blah,blah,blah. It's just boring to the extreme Rocky. We know you've been had,.You're intelligent enough to know you've been had. If you had an ounce of the patriotism you say you have then you would be kicking off too.

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4 hours ago, SwindonCanary said:

wait and see Japan will complete a deal that goes beyond the EU deal next week !

 

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On 24/08/2020 at 22:36, SwindonCanary said:

So how come we are after trade free deals with other countries ? When the EU never does that

any update on that ?

or should we just chalk it up as another one of your lies

 

 

ps we will need to build another wall, given how much chalk the current one has listing your lies

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Do Swindo and Jools realise that the EU is the largest and most comprehensive free trade bloc in the world consisting of 27 separate countries? 

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10 hours ago, Rock The Boat said:

Brexit was all about returning sovereignty to the UK, from day one and the British people were smart enough to realise that the European journey was a misguided one. The EU still hasn't accepted the legitimacy of our sovereignty and the Remainers never understood (or didn't want to understand) what sovereignty meant, but most of us did and with crossed fingers we may actually achieve it. Those who have tried to deny us our democratic victory still haven't given up and I suppose even after next year they won't give up, so I'm not yet ready to celebrate our victory but each day that passes brings our goal of freedom that little bit nearer.

Ion has always been understood  that sovereignty is just a euphemism for racism. If it it is not then please provide practical rational evidence for the benefits of so called sovereignty because it has an often cited argument yet strangely no brexiteer has ever been able to back it up with anything meaningful 

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36 minutes ago, Herman said:

Do Swindon and Jools realise that the EU is the largest and most comprehensive free trade bloc in the world consisting of 27 separate countries? 

How's it free, when you have to pay millions to be in it ?

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