The Positive Brexit Thread

[A Load of Squit 5,230]

46 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

If the EU want full Ambassador status all they need to do is get the 27countries to downgrade their Embassies so they are represented by the EU Ambassador.

Doubt whether they will get their agreement but as the EU is NOT a country then they are not entitled full status under the Vienna Convention.

 

 

The Vienna Convention applies, however, only to states. As international organisations (IOs) acquired more and more functions in the 20th century, the international community came to the view that they and their officials should also benefit from immunities similar to those enjoyed by embassies and diplomats.

It's a stupid move and it will cause problems as most experienced observers have pointed out.

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/blog/refusing-diplomatic-status-eu

That is, after all, why countries such as the US, Russia and China negotiate with the EU and treat its diplomats in the same way as those coming from a sovereign state. Those countries are no fans of pooled sovereignty. They would never dream of joining an organisation like the EU themselves. But they recognise that pretending the EU is no more than a Salmon Conservation Organisation with delusions of grandeur is not just insulting but counterproductive. So should the UK.

 

 

[horsefly 4,318]

Well, well, look what's been flushed out of the past. Looking forward to Joolsiani's response to his master's views on the CPTPP:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/nigel-farage-s-fury-with-cptpp-exposed-eu-s-prototype-for-world-governance/ar-BB1dlh3m?ocid=msedgntp

Nigel Farage's fury with CPTPP exposed: 'EU's prototype for world governance'

 

Speaking on his LBC show at the time, Mr Farage beamed with delight as he declared the "EU's prototype for world governance" had taken a massive blow.

He said: "This Trans-Pacific Partnership was modelled and based on the European Union's single market.

"The idea was the European Union was going to be a prototype for a bigger form of world governance.

"The Clintons were on it, Obama was on it, and Trump's just reversed it."

 

[Well b back 3,304]

With all this negative news on here I see why Mad Moy is trying to turn the virus thread into the new Brexit thread.

[horsefly 4,318]

1 minute ago, Well b back said:

With all this negative news on here I see why Mad Moy is trying to turn the virus thread into the new Brexit thread.

Yep! They've had a month of Brexit now and can't find a single success story of a company claiming it's done better as a result of Brexit (Although I'm sure some debt-collecting companies will soon be showing profits). Swindon is no doubt rocking back-and-forth in his chair screaming "Nissan" repeatedly ignoring the fact that vast amounts of his (and our) tax has being used to bribe them to stay in the UK. Deck chairs on the Titanic alas!

[SwindonCanary 455]

3 hours ago, horsefly said:

Here's a whine for you: Why do you keep spelling "remainer" incorrectly. By all means use the insult "remoaner" if you wish, but ffs what is a "remouner"? (what's being remounted? your pet cat????)

Mourner | Definition of Mourner at Dictionary.com

[horsefly 4,318]

1 minute ago, SwindonCanary said:

Mourner | Definition of Mourner at Dictionary.com

So why do you keep saying "remouner" 

[SwindonCanary 455]

a person who attends a funeral to mourn for the deceased. like the EU 

[horsefly 4,318]

11 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

a person who attends a funeral to mourn for the deceased. like the EU 

FFS you keep missing out the "R" without fail. 

[Herman 9,852]

What you see now is brexit. It's not teething problems, it's not the EU being vindictive, it is brexit. You voted for this, you cheered for this and you gave Johnson a massive electoral pat on the back. We are now a third country and what we will get is because of this.

[kirku 1,339]

59 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

a person who attends a funeral to mourn for the deceased. like the EU 

Parody account

[Yellow Fever 3,848]

10 minutes ago, Herman said:

What you see now is brexit. It's not teething problems, it's not the EU being vindictive, it is brexit. You voted for this, you cheered for this and you gave Johnson a massive electoral pat on the back. We are now a third country and what we will get is because of this.

Yes and the really alarming thing is that many of the regulations aren't being fully enforced as we are still  in many areas in a 'grace' period.        Oh dear.....

Edited February 3, 2021 by Yellow Fever

[horsefly 4,318]

11 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said:

Yes and the really alarming thing is that many of the regulations aren't being fully enforced as we are still  in many areas in a 'grace' period.        Oh dear.....

Yep! and Gove is already on his knees pleading with the EU to extend the grace period (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/02/02/northern-ireland-grace-period-should-extended-says-michael-gove/.) Thus he de facto admits the deal is *****e. 

Anybody else notice today that Johnson at PMQs said he wouldn't hesitate to invoke article 16, the hypocracy doesn't register with him.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

Pressure building on the DUP by the loyalists. She screams foul play anf Gove claims EU intransigence and over interpretation of the protocols.

Blames the EU threatening Article 16 last week as the reason yet forgets his boss was going to do it a fortnight earlier.

So how to we get round it. Extend it. 

So all the lies about oven ready, no treating NI different to the rest of the UK and no change to the working arrangement all come down to:

Extend it.

So I ask the question. How long for?

Probably until all those now 18 and over are dead.

 

[Well b back 3,304]

Can somebody please come up with something positive so Mad Moy can come back on this thread.

[paul moy 235]

7 hours ago, A Load of Squit said:

The Vienna Convention applies, however, only to states. As international organisations (IOs) acquired more and more functions in the 20th century, the international community came to the view that they and their officials should also benefit from immunities similar to those enjoyed by embassies and diplomats.

It's a stupid move and it will cause problems as most experienced observers have pointed out.

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/blog/refusing-diplomatic-status-eu

That is, after all, why countries such as the US, Russia and China negotiate with the EU and treat its diplomats in the same way as those coming from a sovereign state. Those countries are no fans of pooled sovereignty. They would never dream of joining an organisation like the EU themselves. But they recognise that pretending the EU is no more than a Salmon Conservation Organisation with delusions of grandeur is not just insulting but counterproductive. So should the UK.

 

 

The EU have been applying rules by the letter for us, so let's let them have us do it to them to.....  TOUCHE !!!! 🤗

Edited February 3, 2021 by paul moy

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

5 minutes ago, paul moy said:

The EU have been applying rules by the letter for us, so lets let them have us do it to them to.....  TOUCHE !!!! 🤗

We were in the EU and agreed to these rules and were parties to the WA and current deal.

So was Macron holding a gun to anyones head?

Petty and stingy. Yes the Government as well as you.

[paul moy 235]

1 hour ago, Herman said:

What you see now is brexit. It's not teething problems, it's not the EU being vindictive, it is brexit. You voted for this, you cheered for this and you gave Johnson a massive electoral pat on the back. We are now a third country and what we will get is because of this.

Rubbish.... you know as well as us that the EU are being deliberately vindictive, and hence the Article 16 fiasco.

... and then of course the ham sandwiches 😂

.... and Macron insisting all truckers are tested at the border

.... and now decrying the AstraZeneca vaccine and telling us our scientists are useless. 

 

We need to hit back...... like for like 😝

 

Edited February 3, 2021 by paul moy

[paul moy 235]

8 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

We were in the EU and agreed to these rules and were parties to the WA and current deal.

So was Macron holding a gun to anyones head?

Petty and stingy. Yes the Government as well as you.

Go and live in your beloved EU where there were at least 4,313 covid deaths yesterday (as some countries such as Germany undercount) , and good luck with getting vaccinated there !!  🤣😝

Edited February 3, 2021 by paul moy

[paul moy 235]

6 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

We were in the EU and agreed to these rules and were parties to the WA and current deal.

So was Macron holding a gun to anyones head?

Petty and stingy. Yes the Government as well as you.

He tried with the trucker testing over xmas.  You probably are unaware as usual......😝

Edited February 3, 2021 by paul moy

[Well b back 3,304]

10 minutes ago, paul moy said:

Rubbish.... you know as well as us that the EU are being deliberately vindictive, and hence the Article 16 fiasco.

... and the of course the ham sandwiches 😂

.... and Macron insisting all truckers are tested at the border

.... and now decrying the AstraZeneca vaccine and telling us our scientists are useless. 

 

We need to hit back...... like for like 😝

 

Whilst we ignore SAGE and leave our borders open.

They have never said our scientists are useless, you can’t help yourself can you.

[horsefly 4,318]

10 minutes ago, paul moy said:

Rubbish.... you know as well as us that the EU are being deliberately vindictive, and hence the Article 16 fiasco.

... and then of course the ham sandwiches 😂

.... and Macron insisting all truckers are tested at the border

.... and now decrying the AstraZeneca vaccine and telling us our scientists are useless. 

 

We need to hit back...... like for like 😝

 

Total nonsense as ever. The EU have done nothing other than apply the rules that were agreed in the Brexit deal by this Government. So if you want to continue with this tosh you are basically saying that the Brexit deal is rubbish, so welcome to the club. Took you a long time to see the light but glad you can at last see how awful the deal is.

And as for "article 16 fiascos" I take it it you didn't hear Johnson threatening to use article 16 in PMQs today.

[Well b back 3,304]

as some countries such as Germany undercount
 

Your nose is growing

[horsefly 4,318]

5 minutes ago, Well b back said:

as some countries such as Germany undercount
 

Your nose is growing

His pinocchio nose is going to be used by Boris as the platform for his famed bridge from Scotland to Northern Ireland. It should stretch the full span by the time that gets built.

Edited February 3, 2021 by horsefly

[Herman 9,852]

35 minutes ago, Well b back said:

Can somebody please come up with something positive so Mad Moy can come back on this thread.

Nobody seems to want the old troll. 😀

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

26 minutes ago, paul moy said:

Go and live in your beloved EU where there were at least 4,313 covid deaths yesterday (as some countries such as Germany undercount) , and good luck with getting vaccinated there !!  🤣😝

We are on the Brexit thread and all you keep on about, and rejoicing in, is there were deaths in Europe from Covid. We have 1200 a day on our own. You really are pathetic.

And by the way, the EU isn't a country. Which one should I live in? Forrest Moy.

[SwindonCanary 455]

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has suggested to the House of Commons he could invoke Article 16  "to ensure that there is no barrier down the Irish Sea” after Brexit.

Speaking at Prime Minister's Questions, DUP MP Ian Paisley said people in Northern Ireland were being made to “feel like foreigners in our own country” by post-Brexit rules.

[A Load of Squit 5,230]

2 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has suggested to the House of Commons he could invoke Article 16  "to ensure that there is no barrier down the Irish Sea” after Brexit.

Speaking at Prime Minister's Questions, DUP MP Ian Paisley said people in Northern Ireland were being made to “feel like foreigners in our own country” by post-Brexit rules.

You know who is responsible for those post Brexit rules, Boris Johnson, it's what he signed up to.

 

[PurpleCanary 5,601]

On 02/02/2021 at 14:05, PurpleCanary said:

Yes, Johnson's genius negotiating...

The fact is that any Brexit that didn't involve the UK staying in the single market was going to be bad for the Northern Ireland economy. If there wasn't the border in the Irish Sea, with all the problems that has created, it would have to be with the Irish Republic, which again would hamper trade.

The reality is that, as always, Johnson's lies have caught up with him. He claimed there would be no checks or impediments to trade either way between Northern Ireland and Britain. Just not true. So the anger (some real, some fake) over the side issue of the EU protocol move is being attached to the real problem, that the NI economy is being scr*wed by what Johnson signed up for.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

25 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has suggested to the House of Commons he could invoke Article 16  "to ensure that there is no barrier down the Irish Sea” after Brexit.

Speaking at Prime Minister's Questions, DUP MP Ian Paisley said people in Northern Ireland were being made to “feel like foreigners in our own country” by post-Brexit rules.

I think the world has had enough of the intransigence of the DUP, the lies of Johnson and the whole darn mess you have left us with.

Who knows, we may have troops on the streets of NI again because they don't want a united Ireland and the English want to wave the flag of St George, a man who wasn't English and never visited the place.

[paul moy 235]

3 hours ago, SwindonCanary said:

a person who attends a funeral to mourn for the deceased. like the EU 

remourners !!    I like it !!