Jools 584 Posted June 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Herman said: It's like having a conversation with a plate of cauliflower cheese. Knowing you converse with plates of cauliflower cheese doesn't surprise me 🙃 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted June 29, 2020 1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said: So what do the EU want ? We can let them fish in our waters if they reduce their catch, as part of the trade deal, which they don't want, EU to blame. Why not have a read up and find out Maybe you won't need to post up such rubbish Here's a fairly easy starting point https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/02/wheres-the-catch-in-the-brexit-fishing-talks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Fever 3,785 Posted June 29, 2020 Saw an illuminating comment that goes to the quick of the argument elsewhere. "When the discussion turns to fishing I always know we are talking about ideology not practical pragmatic economic benefits." Sums up nicely the view of some. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted June 29, 2020 When the discussion turns to Brexit I always know we are talking about ideology, not practical pragmatic economic benefits Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted June 29, 2020 45 minutes ago, Bill said: Why not have a read up and find out Maybe you won't need to post up such rubbish Here's a fairly easy starting point https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/02/wheres-the-catch-in-the-brexit-fishing-talks THEN READ IT ! The EU wants the status quo, on the over fished waters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted June 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: THEN READ IT ! The EU wants the status quo, on the over fished waters ah good, at last some progress ...............however I would counter with "The NGO thinks the British government’s fisheries bill does not go as far as the EU’s common fisheries policy in its intentions to prevent overfishing" So if you click on the link above you can then read up on what that policy, as it explains in more depth what it is about. And how it is not simply a case of 'our water, 'our fish', There are many variables that need to be factored in... if only that naughty fish tend to roam about and not stay in one plaice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) 4h ago13:41 No 10 signals end of September now effective deadline for post-Brexit trade talks with EU The Downing Street lobby briefing is over. Here are the main points. Downing Street effectively set the end of September as a deadline for the post-Brexit trade talks with the EU. The prime minister’s spokesman said the UK had been very clear with the EU that the talks needed to be completed sooner rather than later. He went on: We’ve always been clear that talks can’t go on into the autumn. We need to make progress as soon as possible. When asked if that meant the end of August was a deadline, the spokesman said talks were scheduled to take place in July and August. Asked if autumn started in September, he said: I think we have spoken in the past about not wanting to be continuing having talks in October. He did not challenge the suggestion that the end of September was the deadline for the UK. Two weeks ago Boris Johnson suggested he would like the talks concluded by the end of Ju Which does confirm my point that the talks can continue beyond the supposed 'end of the month' cut off date. In fact further than Johnson's claim of the end of July..... actually until the end of September, now Some might conclude that the ever correct Bill was right when he stated that it was the UK running down the clock so as to be able to blame the EU for the oncoming failure And not the 'easiest deal in the world' as I believe leading Brexiter Fox (Davis ?) claimed In fact, I would be extremely surprised if any deal could be ratified by the EU - and all customs etc could then be implemented by the UK in three months. Edited June 29, 2020 by Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,765 Posted June 29, 2020 FFS Mark Francois, as chairman of the ERG, has written a "powerful" letter to Michel Barnier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) That idiocy merely underpins the thought (knowledge) that thickos did not read the WA, and haven't the slightest idea of it's implications 'get it done' bellowed the fat fraud, as if that equated to switching on a light bulb and the EU trusting that 'perfidious Albion' would honour that agreement and stick to its word six months to go and the UK are still trying to stretch this out, hoping, I suppose, that the EU will ignore that agreement, tear up the rules of it's Single Market, ignore customs.................................... and pretty much anything else that constitutes the EU..... .... because the UK lied to them 🙄 Edited June 29, 2020 by Bill 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,765 Posted June 29, 2020 Why does it always have to be so cringy and tinpot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted June 29, 2020 UK Parliament To BLOCK Huawei 5G Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted June 29, 2020 or back in the real world 'The UK government is expected to decide on Tuesday whether to ban equipment made by Chinese technology giant Huawei from its 5G networks'. 27 January 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-51263800 though what on earth this has to do with brexit I am not sure - but I expect our motoring correspondent will be along fairly soon to explain it to us all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted June 29, 2020 unbelievable ! what's Brexit got to do with school children learning subjects, what's Brexit got to do with calling me names ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted June 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: unbelievable ! what's Brexit got to do with school children learning subjects, what's Brexit got to do with calling me names ? It was you that raised the subject of what schoolchildren learn - others merely replied Where is there any naming calling here - bar Billy Liar So why not explain what your point was in posting up that headline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) There you go again, blame someone else for your slip up ! Here's something else for you Brexiteers rejoice as Britain on track to leave EU with no delay - 'We did it!' BREXITEERS are preparing to celebrate another milestone in the process of quitting the EU tomorrow - with the end of the month marking any lingering possibility of an extension to the transition period beyond 2020. Edited June 30, 2020 by SwindonCanary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted June 30, 2020 So, you post up some obscure headline about 5G, then instead of explaining it you 'blame someone else for your slip up'. The meaning of which is doubtlessly lost to us all. Followed by another headline that is not so much obscure, but just plain stupid - as this has been explained to to a few times previous. However for the benefit of those who may have missed it. It is written in an Act of Parliament that the UK cannot ask for an extension after the end of this month. However that carries little weight as another Act can simply over rule that. So just as the talks were to conclude at the same time (today) and have been extended to then end of July, and now the end of September, the belief that the end of the transition is set in stone is false. I don't have any idea how this chap's brain works (if at all0 as any attempt to engage with him on a rational basis is always doomed to fail, as within a post or two he simply resorts to his default position of - absolute tighwing ignorance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted June 30, 2020 Do you really think (if you can) that the Conservative party will ask for an extension ? Who's the dumb wit ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,164 Posted June 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: Do you really think (if you can) that the Conservative party will ask for an extension ? Who's the dumb wit ? It would be really dumb not to consider precedent. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-49601128/boris-johnson-i-d-rather-be-dead-in-a-ditch-than-ask-for-brexit-delay Boris Johnson: 'I'd rather be dead in a ditch' than ask for Brexit delay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted June 30, 2020 Not only dead in a ditch, he will also have to fork out the money to pay for a dwindling EU. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,765 Posted June 30, 2020 We all remember that Brexit would free us of cumbersome red tape?! Well that turns out to be a load of old bollox as well. (This also includes new and untested IT systems.......) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,987 Posted June 30, 2020 Pretty panicky speech all round, £75 per head to build, build, build. This was his conference speech for the Autumn brought forward to shore up Johnson's collapsing poll ratings. Expect the same from Sunak when he does his bit. What the country needs is a jobs budget, and it needs it now. Sunak can't give it because he needs a no deal Brexit budget in November and after that the cat really will be out of the bag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,987 Posted June 30, 2020 18 hours ago, SwindonCanary said: unbelievable ! what's Brexit got to do with school children learning subjects, what's Brexit got to do with calling me names ? @SwindonCanary and the wife enjoying the easing of lockdown and taking a rest from teaching all those "foreign" kids 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted June 30, 2020 4 hours ago, SwindonCanary said: Do you really think (if you can) that the Conservative party will ask for an extension ? Who's the dumb wit ? It is not up to the Conservative party. It is a decision made by Parliament ie an Act I was merely pointing out the lie in your claim. I did. also ask you what your headline about 5G,' Yet once again you are unable to post anything that suggests you have a clue. And please don't start whining about how rude everyone is. Both of my replies were polite and merely asked you to explain both posts. On that basis perhaps the real stupid person was me, for expecting a sensible answer from you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted June 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Herman said: We all remember that Brexit would free us of cumbersome red tape?! Well that turns out to be a load of old bollox as well. (This also includes new and untested IT systems.......) To deal with the extra customs work the current figures at 50,000 extra customs staff and 4,000,000 extra forms .............. a week these are government figures Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted June 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bill said: It is not up to the Conservative party. It is a decision made by Parliament ie an Act I was merely pointing out the lie in your claim. I did also ask you what your headline about 5G was Yet once again you are unable to post anything that suggests you have a clue. And please don't start whining about how rude everyone is. Both of my replies were polite and merely asked you to explain your posts. On that basis, perhaps the real stupid person was me, for expecting a sensible answer from you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jools 584 Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) Bill ending free movement has passed 👍 Edited June 30, 2020 by Jools Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted June 30, 2020 3 hours ago, BigFish said: @SwindonCanary and the wife enjoying the easing of lockdown and taking a rest from teaching all those "foreign" kids lies again ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted June 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Bill said: It is not up to the Conservative party. It is a decision made by Parliament ie an Act I was merely pointing out the lie in your claim. I did. also ask you what your headline about 5G,' Yet once again you are unable to post anything that suggests you have a clue. And please don't start whining about how rude everyone is. Both of my replies were polite and merely asked you to explain both posts. On that basis perhaps the real stupid person was me, for expecting a sensible answer from you. The decision of Parliament ! Remind me how much lead has Boris got in that Parliament ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites