Surfer 1,547 Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, paul moy said: They still have to be constructed somewhere, and the cheapest place is probably where most are sold..... ie: the UK Um no. Freight by sea is incredibly cheap. So the cheapest place to build something is where labor, capital and taxes are lowest. As all those things can manipulated by national governments, that's why tariffs, country of origin declarations and minimum product quality standards exist in the first place - to stop cheating. Or to protect domestic manufacturers if you prefer that rational. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creative Midfielder 2,003 Posted February 4, 2020 8 hours ago, Rock The Boat said: You are incredibly thick, CM We will get a great deal because it is in Americas interests to have a strong UK in Europe to act as a political counter-weight to the EU. I'll let you use your two brain cells to work out why that might be. And BTW, this only applies if the Republicans are in office, the Democrats are not our friends so we have get this over the line before November .........so says @RTB from his second home on Fantasy Island 😂😂 As I said originally - idiots like mad Moyo, and that clearly includes you, will happily lap up a very bad deal with the US because that is all that is going to be on offer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Apples 1,335 Posted February 4, 2020 9 hours ago, Rock The Boat said: You are incredibly thick, CM Remember CM, praise from Caesar is praise indeed. 🤣 Apples 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creative Midfielder 2,003 Posted February 4, 2020 16 hours ago, TCCANARY said: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-brexit-news-journalists-walk-out-no-10-briefing-a9314996.html Now they're banning some press outlets from thier briefings. Stupid move by a stupid PM. Just glad I bought my Euros last week, before the lying bumbling buffoon opened his mouth 😀 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Icecream Snow said: If the component manufacturers aren't in the UK or the EU, why wouldn't you just import the whole car instead? Japan already has a zero tariffs on car imports into the EU under the new deal. Obvious reasons are transportation costs, labour availability, subsidies, and time to get to market, amongst others. Edited February 4, 2020 by paul moy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,988 Posted February 4, 2020 11 hours ago, SwindonCanary said: Don't you know that Boris was left with a short amount of time ,and following after May's attempt, he was pushed into a corner and came out of it with a victory Well done Boris 🙂 What I know about it Swindo, my friend, is he accepted a deal "that no British PM could accept" leading to the likely break-up of the UK. If that is a victory I would hate to see him lose. Or rather as someone who voted Remain I would love to see him "lose" because that would be in our best interests. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted February 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, BigFish said: What I know about it Swindo, my friend, is he accepted a deal "that no British PM could accept" leading to the likely break-up of the UK. If that is a victory I would hate to see him lose. Or rather as someone who voted Remain I would love to see him "lose" because that would be in our best interests. I don't understand why you are so bothered as you don't care about the UK in any other way. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TCCANARY 263 Posted February 4, 2020 Squires today, absolute genius. 😀 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,988 Posted February 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, paul moy said: I don't understand why you are so bothered as you don't care about the UK in any other way. Fairly typical Little Englander response from you @paul moy and @SwindonCanary. What I see is a UK that has improved beyond all recognition during the countries membership of the EU. I have no problem with the regulations on food, products, employee rights and the environment that have been introduced in that time often, often at the behest of the UK. The UK has become increasingly tolerant and cosmopolitan and that along with democracy and peace has also spread across Europe. It is something to be proud of. You two are so desparate to be right, to win at any cost that you will accept any price, any indignity to get what you think you want. You don't seem to actually like anyone, the 16+ million who voted Remain, the EU, foreigners, different religions or beliefs, the Scots etc except white English speaking middle aged men and the countries they govern. The country you want is old, conservative, white and prejudiced. That is not a country I can be proud of, that is not a country that the majority want. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 4, 2020 always look on the down side of life ! I'm not desperate to win at any price, I believe we can do well on our own, not propped up by the EU. You wrote that Boris lost it when he negotiated, but I believe he won. The Irish border is open for trade which is what they wanted, whilst the rest of us are out which is what we wanted All winners and Boris played it very well.= Believe in the man it may help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted February 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, BigFish said: Fairly typical Little Englander response from you @paul moy and @SwindonCanary. What I see is a UK that has improved beyond all recognition during the countries membership of the EU. I have no problem with the regulations on food, products, employee rights and the environment that have been introduced in that time often, often at the behest of the UK. The UK has become increasingly tolerant and cosmopolitan and that along with democracy and peace has also spread across Europe. It is something to be proud of. You two are so desparate to be right, to win at any cost that you will accept any price, any indignity to get what you think you want. You don't seem to actually like anyone, the 16+ million who voted Remain, the EU, foreigners, different religions or beliefs, the Scots etc except white English speaking middle aged men and the countries they govern. The country you want is old, conservative, white and prejudiced. That is not a country I can be proud of, that is not a country that the majority want. .. but now we have left you have to move on and adopt a positive attitude. Your opinon was debated and lost and people that wanted independence won, so get a life. The UK will thrive but if you keep running us down go and live in your beloved dystopian socialist protective failing EU. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted February 4, 2020 53 minutes ago, BigFish said: What I know about it Swindo, my friend, is he accepted a deal "that no British PM could accept" leading to the likely break-up of the UK. If that is a victory I would hate to see him lose. Or rather as someone who voted Remain I would love to see him "lose" because that would be in our best interests. Clutching at negative straws as usual.... might this -ve, might that -ve. Ever thought that this will never happen ? LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,842 Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said: always look on the down side of life ! I'm not desperate to win at any price, I believe we can do well on our own, not propped up by the EU. You wrote that Boris lost it when he negotiated, but I believe he won. The Irish border is open for trade which is what they wanted, whilst the rest of us are out which is what we wanted All winners and Boris played it very well.= Believe in the man it may help He split the UK you clown. That is not winning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,842 Posted February 4, 2020 Moyo trying the old patriot schtick. Any true patriot would have had a clear and obvious plan of how to leave the EU, rather than risk the whole economy of the country purely because they read some propaganda in the Express or Fakebook. You ain't no patriot bruv. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted February 4, 2020 23 minutes ago, Herman said: Moyo trying the old patriot schtick. Any true patriot would have had a clear and obvious plan of how to leave the EU, rather than risk the whole economy of the country purely because they read some propaganda in the Express or Fakebook. You ain't no patriot bruv. How we leave ? Irrelevant now as we have left..... LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TCCANARY 263 Posted February 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, paul moy said: How we leave ? Irrelevant now as we have left..... LOL Every day is Brexitfoolsday until 31/12/2020. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 4, 2020 56 minutes ago, Herman said: He split the UK you clown. That is not winning. How's it not winning when the Irish are happy whilst Britain is happy, you tell me who's lost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icecream Snow 762 Posted February 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: How's it not winning when the Irish are happy whilst Britain is happy, you tell me who's lost. Northern Ireland Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 4, 2020 Northern Ireland people are happy, it's just the DUP that are not Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 4, 2020 Higher EU production costs exporting to the UK, plus tariffs on UK consumers the EU brings on itself, will obviously put up the sticker prices of EU cars sold here.While UK car prices remain the same.And the imports of cars from the rest of the world to a UK outside of the EU's Customs Union's often penal External tariffs (around 10% on non-EU produced cars) will look cheaper to UK consumers.The EU exports annually around 2 million cars here, we export to them around 800,000, and so our demand pattern will shift away from the EU produced cars, to both Buy British and rest of the world cars. I just wonder why it took Nissan so long to realize that Brexit would increase their market share here, especially if EU car producers here, move production to the EU. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,842 Posted February 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: Northern Ireland people are happy, it's just the DUP that are not The whole of Northern Ireland assembly voted against Johnson's WA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, Herman said: The whole of Northern Ireland assembly voted against Johnson's WA. I said the people not the assembly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoola Han Solo 448 Posted February 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: I said the people not the assembly Evidence please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icecream Snow 762 Posted February 4, 2020 19 minutes ago, Hoola Han Solo said: Evidence please. Does that include dodgy instagram models? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 4, 2020 DUP leader Arlene Foster said the Brexit deal Mr Johnson struck with the EU last week does not “protect the Union in the way I would like to see it”. Whilst It seems the majority of people in the north of Ireland welcomed Brexit." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,842 Posted February 4, 2020 That's not true is it Swindon?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 4, 2020 Taken from the Belfast Telegraph Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 4, 2020 Another historic moment for Brexit Britain as we take our independent seat at the World Trade Organisation, sitting alongside our good friends from the USA. We're now proper players in global trade talks, instead of being rule-takers from Brussels! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,842 Posted February 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: Taken from the Belfast Telegraph When? Please back up something you write with some evidence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Herman said: When? Please back up something you write with some evidence. I didn't write it, I copied and pasted it, I'll search through my history to keep you happy after I've had my evening meal. ' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites