Derby Canary 3 Posted December 5, 2017 "Giving it a go" was of course always the right strategy. The problem was we did not ''give it a go'' at the right time by preparing ourselves day one.Our problem at the time was also that the people giving it a go board/management were not qualified/have the nous/experience to make the right decisions and the inevitable mistakes ensued.We never learn and the same mistakes/situations continue! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STFU 0 Posted December 5, 2017 Well, that''s a non sequitur if ever I saw one 🙄🙄🙄 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,436 Posted December 5, 2017 We "gave it a go" too late, had we done the right work in the transfer market in the summer we would not have needed to give it such a go in January to our cost now.But more than anything, what has hindered this club in recent years have been the decisions (or lack of decisions) made over managers. We didn;t sack Hughton early enough to make a difference, we then sacked him too late, we tried to stay up in the prem with a rooky in Neil, we then didn;t sack Neil early enough last season and didn;t appoint a successor quickly enough when we did and finally we have entrusted our fate in a novice manager with no experience of the championship at a time in the club;s history where we do not really have the time for him to learn on the job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derby Canary 3 Posted December 5, 2017 [quote user="Jim Smith"]We "gave it a go" too late, had we done the right work in the transfer market in the summer we would not have needed to give it such a go in January to our cost now.But more than anything, what has hindered this club in recent years have been the decisions (or lack of decisions) made over managers. We didn;t sack Hughton early enough to make a difference, we then sacked him too late, we tried to stay up in the prem with a rooky in Neil, we then didn;t sack Neil early enough last season and didn;t appoint a successor quickly enough when we did and finally we have entrusted our fate in a novice manager with no experience of the championship at a time in the club;s history where we do not really have the time for him to learn on the job.[/quote]Totally agree Jim! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derby Canary 3 Posted December 5, 2017 Just so you can understand STFU. Put in simple terms and more or less as Jim Smith has said:We did not recruit (players) at all in Summer post promotionWe realised our predicament in the following Jan and panicked ie ''gave it a go'' but wasted money recruiting the wrong individualsAs we have said (repeatedly) our probs totally lie with this board and their selection of individuals to run the show Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoola Han Solo 448 Posted December 5, 2017 2015/16 preseason and recruitment was a complete farce. We didn’t go into the season prepared (CB/striker etc).We then panicked in January and threw ridiculous money around at average players such as Naismith, which we’re still suffering from now.That whole season could have ramifications for us for years.The words “p issup”, “brewery” and “organise” come to mind.It’s ok though, Delia is a nice lady who’s a fan. I wonder if the reaction would be different if we had the exact same record, but with say a man who wasn’t a NCFC fan?It’s not the first time this ineptness has cost us too (remember 04/05?!)Time for this board to go. They’ve made mistake after mistake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 953 Posted December 5, 2017 [quote user="Hoola Han Solo"]Time for this board to go. They’ve made mistake after mistake.[/quote]But of course they won''t go because the idiot shareholders keep voting for them, as we saw to our cost just last week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,689 Posted December 5, 2017 Oh, goodie, another board bashing thread. [|-)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoola Han Solo 448 Posted December 5, 2017 It''s a forum and people have discussed the topic. Get over it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CANARYKING 683 Posted December 5, 2017 [quote user="Making Plans"][quote user="Hoola Han Solo"]Time for this board to go. They’ve made mistake after mistake.[/quote]But of course they won''t go because the idiot shareholders keep voting for them, as we saw to our cost just last week.[/quote]Help me here, what would have happened if they had been voted “ out “ ? Who would have come “ in “ ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TCCANARY 263 Posted December 5, 2017 [quote user="CANARYKING"][quote user="Making Plans"][quote user="Hoola Han Solo"]Time for this board to go. They’ve made mistake after mistake.[/quote]But of course they won''t go because the idiot shareholders keep voting for them, as we saw to our cost just last week.[/quote]Help me here, what would have happened if they had been voted “ out “ ? Who would have come “ in “ ?[/quote]Probably another idiot shareholder. [:D] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,452 Posted December 5, 2017 LDC sez.....Oh, goodie, another board bashing thread.......Yeah, let''s just have a forum that any criticism or difference of opinion etc, regarding club, team or its hierarchy is taboo. Only allow toe the party line forelock tuggin'' fawns, club apologists, flunky fans and sycophantic sheeple supporters a voice.......That''s democracy....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,689 Posted December 5, 2017 [quote user="Hoola Han Solo"]It''s a forum and people have discussed the topic. Get over it.[/quote]Glad to see you got the mesage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoola Han Solo 448 Posted December 5, 2017 Yep, some on here who only want to discuss NCFC if it doesnt involve criticism of the club and it’s board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,689 Posted December 5, 2017 [quote user="Hoola Han Solo"]Yep, some on here who only want to discuss NCFC if it doesnt involve criticism of the club and it’s board.[/quote]Criticim is fine, we all get it that the board has made mistakes and we discuss it all the time. It is the perpetuating the board bashing stuff, over and over again that is annoying - it''s becomes less like a discussion board and more like a social media campaign - often started by people of dubious loyalties to NCFC. We''ve got the message, you don''t like the board and feel the need to keep on and on about it, but you carry on, sorry for intruding on your misery.[Y] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoola Han Solo 448 Posted December 5, 2017 It’s not misery you fool.I’d like to see my club competing at the highest level in the Premier League and think a new dynamism and ambition is needed at board level.The problem is with you, who cannot accept that not all Norwich fans are happy clapping Delia apologists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoola Han Solo 448 Posted December 5, 2017 It’ll never mean as much to the fans that don’t reguarly go. It’s not been particularly fun watching home games this season that are turgid and lacking excitement and goals. A lot more demoralising than opening the laptop and firing up an illegal stream, before taking to a forum to tell how proper, more loyal fans should act and think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,689 Posted December 5, 2017 [quote user="Hoola Han Solo"]It’ll never mean as much to the fans that don’t reguarly go. It’s not been particularly fun watching home games this season that are turgid and lacking excitement and goals. A lot more demoralising than opening the laptop and firing up an illegal stream, before taking to a forum to tell how proper, more loyal fans should act and think.[/quote]So if we start scoring goals and play more exciting football, you''ll lay off from saying it''s time for the board to go? No? Didn''t think so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 6,084 Posted December 5, 2017 [quote user="Derby Canary"]Just so you can understand STFU. Put in simple terms and more or less as Jim Smith has said:We did not recruit (players) at all in Summer post promotionWe realised our predicament in the following Jan and panicked ie ''gave it a go'' but wasted money recruiting the wrong individualsAs we have said (repeatedly) our probs totally lie with this board and their selection of individuals to run the show[/quote]Actually what Jim Smith said was that we should have sacked Neil the moment after we got promoted at Wembley. I am sure he posted that on the very day, and no doubt you did too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derby Canary 3 Posted December 5, 2017 Purple Canary......We should have questioned his competence when he demonstrated that he was tactically inept (at that level) and had n''t a clue who would be suitable recruits to fill the gaping holes in our squad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TCCANARY 263 Posted December 5, 2017 [quote user="Derby Canary"]Purple Canary......We should have questioned his competence when he demonstrated that he was tactically inept (at that level) and had n''t a clue who would be suitable recruits to fill the gaping holes in our squad.[/quote]Just because we didn''t buy the players required doesn''t mean that he did identify the players required. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 8,261 Posted December 5, 2017 I''d love to get an inside story on what happened that summer as on paper it was baffling. You don''t often here of teams coming up making a profit on transfer fees in their first window but I think we did in the end. We went up in fairly clear need of defensive reinforcements and bought...a bunch of midfielders. While also selling one of our best players the season before. There seemed to be suggestions that our strategy was to aim high and go for some fairly ambitious targets (there was the defender at Napoli whose name escapes me) but there seemed to be a lack of a plan B. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,436 Posted December 5, 2017 [quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="Derby Canary"]Just so you can understand STFU. Put in simple terms and more or less as Jim Smith has said:We did not recruit (players) at all in Summer post promotionWe realised our predicament in the following Jan and panicked ie ''gave it a go'' but wasted money recruiting the wrong individualsAs we have said (repeatedly) our probs totally lie with this board and their selection of individuals to run the show[/quote]Actually what Jim Smith said was that we should have sacked Neil the moment after we got promoted at Wembley. I am sure he posted that on the very day, and no doubt you did too. [/quote]a more ruthless/ambitious club would probably have parted company with him half way through that season and in time for a new manager to have an impact and they certainly would not have rewarded him with an improved contract after relegation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TCCANARY 263 Posted December 5, 2017 [quote user="Jim Smith"][quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="Derby Canary"]Just so you can understand STFU. Put in simple terms and more or less as Jim Smith has said:We did not recruit (players) at all in Summer post promotionWe realised our predicament in the following Jan and panicked ie ''gave it a go'' but wasted money recruiting the wrong individualsAs we have said (repeatedly) our probs totally lie with this board and their selection of individuals to run the show[/quote]Actually what Jim Smith said was that we should have sacked Neil the moment after we got promoted at Wembley. I am sure he posted that on the very day, and no doubt you did too. [/quote]a more ruthless/ambitious club would probably have parted company with him half way through that season and in time for a new manager to have an impact and they certainly would not have rewarded him with an improved contract after relegation.[/quote]Now you are assuming that a new manager would''ve had an impact, that''s not always the case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mickdundee 0 Posted December 5, 2017 Maybe not but changing the out of depth manager couldn’t have been worse as we got relegated, and are feeling the effects to this dayCompounded by the ridiculous idea of keeping him, seems all a little bit of history repeating Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Vince 389 Posted December 5, 2017 [quote user="Making Plans"][quote user="Hoola Han Solo"]Time for this board to go. They’ve made mistake after mistake.[/quote]But of course they won''t go because the idiot shareholders keep voting for them, as we saw to our cost just last week.[/quote]Beware the Coffin Dodgers. Treacherous lot. The Enemy Within. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites