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Don''t know if its true but I hear they are changing their name from New Labour.My suggestionsOld LabourSocialist Labour One Nation SocialistsThe National Socialist Partyor simplyJezzbollah[;)]

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Clear lines now. UKIP lite versus the Socialist Workers Party. These will be interesting times.

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[quote user="Daz Sparks"]Would be a great day if you and your alias''s f**ked off and City win.[/quote]And fraternal greetings to you comrade Sparks.[Y]

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Interesting times indeed.90% of Labour MP`s do not agree with his political philosophies and were not elected with the policies Jezza wants to implement.Will they jump ship, split from the party or be hypocrites and political whores and support him just so they keep their jobs, positions and status?I have no allegiances here, just looking in as a voyeur.

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Well we''ll have a bit of old fashioned socialism brought to the fore again. He seems to have the intellectual capabilities to give Cameron a run for his money on the front benches, at least. The others failed to impress me.

A very lightweight line-up with the most positive thing about any of their chances at the next election being the fact that they would have been likely to be up against George Osborne.

The interesting thing is to deduce where the Labour vote will eventually go once Corbyn''s policies become difficult to vote for (eg. not bombing ISIS.). Will it mean a LibDem resurrection or will Nigel gain, again?

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The scale of Jeremy Corbyn''s win, gaining 85% of the ordinary members vote, 59.5% of the overall vote is an overwhelming mandate, almost as overwhelming as the scale of Labour''s defeat at the General Election. Interesting times  ahead I feel.

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I imagine Cameron corking a rather expensive champagne and raising a glass to Jeremy.

On several occasions during the past week or two I''ve seen Corbin on tv getting angry and ordering journalists / camera men around. I can see the media generally going after him, he could lose it big time on camera once the pressure gets on.

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Quite happy with this really.
Labour will return to its natural and intended place on the political spectrum.  The Lib Dems will now return to the centre and I would imagine some of the careerist centre-right Labour MPs will jump ship and follow.
Electoral suicide it may be, but representative politics has to be about standing up for what you truly believe and offering people a chance to share that vision, otherwise it fails and we have the apathy and disengagement which has sullied the last ten years of politics.
I believe the clear choices now available will hurt, not help, UKIP, and long may that continue.

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He''s a seasoned pro No. 9, he''ll handle it.

I somehow think that Cameron un-corked his bottle when the nominations for the Labour leadership contest closed in the first place.

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It is apathy that has influenced politics more than anything else in my opinion Bor, and apathy in our electoral system seems to favour the tories.
What I find interesting is, more than ever before, a leader of one of major political parties, was elected by ordinary people in a demonstrably free and fair election. 

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"I am a Conservative paid my £3 and am delighted by the result."

I consider that the right to vote in a democratic country deserves more respect than that.

Pathetic!

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I can''t believe people have been quite so pathetic as to join a party they hate - I''ve no particular truck with either of the main parties, but I hope it comes back to bite them hard (and it is those who presumably feel they have something to lose who have done it).

In many ways it is good to have the parties properly demarcated again, at least there will be clear differences and people can vote for something different rather than it all being much the same.

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His win makes politics come alive again. The mandate is clear and powerful, no matter what the many ''conservatives'' on this forum are saying. He appeals to people who want different values about inequality, about how problems in society are structural and how governments set the agendas and value sets. He appeals to younger people. He appeals to people who have some kind of ideology. Yes, he may well take Labour back to the 80''s but the win re-sets politics.

And I did not vote Labour in case people want to take issue. At least result this provides a basis for a more serious debate about what is important in life......being a Tory and paying £3 to vote for Corbyn is not one of the kind of values I support. It is mean spirited and cynical. But you make your choice in life.

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[quote user="sonyc"]His win makes politics come alive again. The mandate is clear and powerful, no matter what the many ''conservatives'' on this forum are saying. He appeals to people who want different values about inequality, about how problems in society are structural and how governments set the agendas and value sets. He appeals to younger people. He appeals to people who have some kind of ideology. Yes, he may well take Labour back to the 80''s but the win re-sets politics.

And I did not vote Labour in case people want to take issue. At least result this provides a basis for a more serious debate about what is important in life......being a Tory and paying £3 to vote for Corbyn is not one of the kind of values I support. It is mean spirited and cynical. But you make your choice in life.[/quote]

Good post Sonyc, agreed, maybe this will mean more debate in the Commons about peoples struggles and move away from the centralised politics both the Tories and Labour were practising. Whilst I think it may well cost the Labour party dear I, for one, am glad that we have an opposition leader who is truely opposed to a lot of the governments policies and will create an interesting debate!

Power to the people,

OTBC

Oh BTW, fantastic result today City, good performance, but, please can we keep a clean sheet!!!!

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[quote user="BroadstairsR"]He''s a seasoned pro No. 9, he''ll handle it.

I somehow think that Cameron un-corked his bottle when the nominations for the Labour leadership contest closed in the first place.[/quote]

Old pro yep, but I have been surprised by

A) he seemed quite angry and flustered

B) did it get to air because the ''media'' outlets were being mischievous and trying to undermine him?

I don''t know, just seemed odd to me at the time

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Corbyn is saying nothing that has not been tried before and failed quite spectacularly in the 1970s. The truth of the matter is his policies will bankrupt the country even more than Brown/Blair did and exactly as those policies did in the 1970s when we had to go begging for a bailout to the IMF.We need a complete sea change of how this country is run and a Parliament run for the benefit of the majority and not a minority of either bankers, multinational companies, the Unions, minority pressure groups or simply those with enough cash to buy political clout on either left or right.

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Many, many years ago there was a forthright and principled politician who wasn''t afraid to speak their mind, saying what they actually believed. They came from almost nowhere and won the leadership of their party with the help of so-called entryists. There was talk of coups and rebellions within the party due to their new leader moving away from the centre, and hence having no chance of winning an actual general election. She won her first general election four years later in 1979.

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[quote user="ricardo"]Yeah, should have been free but well worth three quid all things considered.[/quote]

Best 3 quid I have ever invested. My daughter will thank me in years to come

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Corbyn''s 66 - he''ll be dead by the time Labour next get a look in.

                                                                                                [:D]   

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Yeah a brilliant day, the idiots let their opponents vote in a leader even their own MPs don''t want. £3 very well invested. The lunatics really have taken over the asylum.

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[quote user="andgreen"]Yeah a brilliant day, the idiots let their opponents vote in a leader even their own MPs don''t want. £3 very well invested. The lunatics really have taken over the asylum.[/quote]

They set the rules we just take advantage of them to make sure our children and our children''s children have a bright future.

Corbyn is to Politics what Brian Gunn is to football management

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