Stylish Canary 0 Posted September 12, 2015 The Labour Party have commited electoral suicide and now for the Canaries to get 3 points.It doesn''t get better than that! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,397 Posted September 12, 2015 Don''t know if its true but I hear they are changing their name from New Labour.My suggestionsOld LabourSocialist Labour One Nation SocialistsThe National Socialist Partyor simplyJezzbollah[;)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daz Sparks 1,182 Posted September 12, 2015 Would be a great day if you and your alias''s f**ked off and City win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,820 Posted September 12, 2015 Clear lines now. UKIP lite versus the Socialist Workers Party. These will be interesting times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,397 Posted September 12, 2015 [quote user="Daz Sparks"]Would be a great day if you and your alias''s f**ked off and City win.[/quote]And fraternal greetings to you comrade Sparks.[Y] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Molly Windley 76 Posted September 12, 2015 Interesting times indeed.90% of Labour MP`s do not agree with his political philosophies and were not elected with the policies Jezza wants to implement.Will they jump ship, split from the party or be hypocrites and political whores and support him just so they keep their jobs, positions and status?I have no allegiances here, just looking in as a voyeur. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,202 Posted September 12, 2015 Well we''ll have a bit of old fashioned socialism brought to the fore again. He seems to have the intellectual capabilities to give Cameron a run for his money on the front benches, at least. The others failed to impress me.A very lightweight line-up with the most positive thing about any of their chances at the next election being the fact that they would have been likely to be up against George Osborne.The interesting thing is to deduce where the Labour vote will eventually go once Corbyn''s policies become difficult to vote for (eg. not bombing ISIS.). Will it mean a LibDem resurrection or will Nigel gain, again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daz Sparks 1,182 Posted September 12, 2015 The scale of Jeremy Corbyn''s win, gaining 85% of the ordinary members vote, 59.5% of the overall vote is an overwhelming mandate, almost as overwhelming as the scale of Labour''s defeat at the General Election. Interesting times ahead I feel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Number 9 0 Posted September 12, 2015 I imagine Cameron corking a rather expensive champagne and raising a glass to Jeremy.On several occasions during the past week or two I''ve seen Corbin on tv getting angry and ordering journalists / camera men around. I can see the media generally going after him, he could lose it big time on camera once the pressure gets on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katie Borkins 1 Posted September 12, 2015 Quite happy with this really.Labour will return to its natural and intended place on the political spectrum. The Lib Dems will now return to the centre and I would imagine some of the careerist centre-right Labour MPs will jump ship and follow.Electoral suicide it may be, but representative politics has to be about standing up for what you truly believe and offering people a chance to share that vision, otherwise it fails and we have the apathy and disengagement which has sullied the last ten years of politics.I believe the clear choices now available will hurt, not help, UKIP, and long may that continue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,202 Posted September 12, 2015 He''s a seasoned pro No. 9, he''ll handle it.I somehow think that Cameron un-corked his bottle when the nominations for the Labour leadership contest closed in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daz Sparks 1,182 Posted September 12, 2015 It is apathy that has influenced politics more than anything else in my opinion Bor, and apathy in our electoral system seems to favour the tories.What I find interesting is, more than ever before, a leader of one of major political parties, was elected by ordinary people in a demonstrably free and fair election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stylish Canary 0 Posted September 12, 2015 I am a Conservative paid my £3 and am delighted by the result Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daz Sparks 1,182 Posted September 12, 2015 Good for you. Does it feel good to come out of the closet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,202 Posted September 12, 2015 "I am a Conservative paid my £3 and am delighted by the result."I consider that the right to vote in a democratic country deserves more respect than that.Pathetic! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,397 Posted September 12, 2015 Yeah, should have been free but well worth three quid all things considered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,683 Posted September 12, 2015 I can''t believe people have been quite so pathetic as to join a party they hate - I''ve no particular truck with either of the main parties, but I hope it comes back to bite them hard (and it is those who presumably feel they have something to lose who have done it). In many ways it is good to have the parties properly demarcated again, at least there will be clear differences and people can vote for something different rather than it all being much the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,541 Posted September 12, 2015 His win makes politics come alive again. The mandate is clear and powerful, no matter what the many ''conservatives'' on this forum are saying. He appeals to people who want different values about inequality, about how problems in society are structural and how governments set the agendas and value sets. He appeals to younger people. He appeals to people who have some kind of ideology. Yes, he may well take Labour back to the 80''s but the win re-sets politics. And I did not vote Labour in case people want to take issue. At least result this provides a basis for a more serious debate about what is important in life......being a Tory and paying £3 to vote for Corbyn is not one of the kind of values I support. It is mean spirited and cynical. But you make your choice in life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
? 0 Posted September 12, 2015 [quote user="sonyc"]His win makes politics come alive again. The mandate is clear and powerful, no matter what the many ''conservatives'' on this forum are saying. He appeals to people who want different values about inequality, about how problems in society are structural and how governments set the agendas and value sets. He appeals to younger people. He appeals to people who have some kind of ideology. Yes, he may well take Labour back to the 80''s but the win re-sets politics. And I did not vote Labour in case people want to take issue. At least result this provides a basis for a more serious debate about what is important in life......being a Tory and paying £3 to vote for Corbyn is not one of the kind of values I support. It is mean spirited and cynical. But you make your choice in life.[/quote]Good post Sonyc, agreed, maybe this will mean more debate in the Commons about peoples struggles and move away from the centralised politics both the Tories and Labour were practising. Whilst I think it may well cost the Labour party dear I, for one, am glad that we have an opposition leader who is truely opposed to a lot of the governments policies and will create an interesting debate!Power to the people,OTBCOh BTW, fantastic result today City, good performance, but, please can we keep a clean sheet!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Number 9 0 Posted September 12, 2015 [quote user="BroadstairsR"]He''s a seasoned pro No. 9, he''ll handle it.I somehow think that Cameron un-corked his bottle when the nominations for the Labour leadership contest closed in the first place.[/quote]Old pro yep, but I have been surprised byA) he seemed quite angry and flusteredB) did it get to air because the ''media'' outlets were being mischievous and trying to undermine him?I don''t know, just seemed odd to me at the time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoareyou? 0 Posted September 12, 2015 Corbyn is saying nothing that has not been tried before and failed quite spectacularly in the 1970s. The truth of the matter is his policies will bankrupt the country even more than Brown/Blair did and exactly as those policies did in the 1970s when we had to go begging for a bailout to the IMF.We need a complete sea change of how this country is run and a Parliament run for the benefit of the majority and not a minority of either bankers, multinational companies, the Unions, minority pressure groups or simply those with enough cash to buy political clout on either left or right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
93vintage 16 Posted September 12, 2015 Many, many years ago there was a forthright and principled politician who wasn''t afraid to speak their mind, saying what they actually believed. They came from almost nowhere and won the leadership of their party with the help of so-called entryists. There was talk of coups and rebellions within the party due to their new leader moving away from the centre, and hence having no chance of winning an actual general election. She won her first general election four years later in 1979. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stylish Canary 0 Posted September 12, 2015 [quote user="ricardo"]Yeah, should have been free but well worth three quid all things considered.[/quote]Best 3 quid I have ever invested. My daughter will thank me in years to come Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,820 Posted September 12, 2015 Are you old enough to vote? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stylish Canary 0 Posted September 12, 2015 [quote user="Herman "]Are you old enough to vote?[/quote]Body age but not mental age! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The fog came down..! 4 Posted September 12, 2015 Cameron, like all politicians, knows his days are numbered....he just doesn''t know what the number is yet....and he doesn''t care now as he''s achieved his original objective. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shyster 0 Posted September 12, 2015 Corbyn''s 66 - he''ll be dead by the time Labour next get a look in. Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â [:D]Â Â Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andgreen 0 Posted September 13, 2015 Yeah a brilliant day, the idiots let their opponents vote in a leader even their own MPs don''t want. £3 very well invested. The lunatics really have taken over the asylum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stylish Canary 0 Posted September 13, 2015 [quote user="andgreen"]Yeah a brilliant day, the idiots let their opponents vote in a leader even their own MPs don''t want. £3 very well invested. The lunatics really have taken over the asylum.[/quote]They set the rules we just take advantage of them to make sure our children and our children''s children have a bright future.Corbyn is to Politics what Brian Gunn is to football management Share this post Link to post Share on other sites