Blofield Canary

Last season we set out to score more goals than the opposition This season we have set out to concede less goals than the opposition Is one more effective than the other?

Holt has had 2 or 3 decent games this season but in general has had a very poor season. Its difficult not to believe he has been affected by his home situation as by judgingfrom his tweets he can''t wait to get up to  Carlisle at every opportunity. He hasn''t been helped by the negative tactics and he looks like he could be following Morrisson onto the list of decent strikers ruined by our current manager. Morrisson looks the player he did at the start of last season again playing for Leeds. Shame our current management couldn''t harness his cuurent goal scoring form. I know its a league below us but in 3 games he has only one less goal for Leeds than our top scorer.

The problem is the football being served up is so boring. I have been a season ticket holder for over 30 years and this is the most boring city team I have ever watched. Of course we have seen far worse football but even in the darkest days of relegation to league 1 there was still some entertainmant value. There is no pleasure in watching city at the moment and the final whistle can''t come soon enough. To start out every game looking for a nil nil draw is just wrong. We treat every game like Man Utd away and to listen to the manager after every game praising the quality of the opposition is wearing a bit thin. Yesterday was Southampton for gods sake and we allowed them to play us off the park. There was only one side looking like they wanted to win and as usual it wasn''t us.

corporate season tickets are not just in the boxes and corporate areas of the ground. Several companies will hold a few general ground tickets so they can take clients to a Premier League game.

Do you seriously think NCFC would want to get into a position of having to defend its actions and try to mitigate an action in court brought against it by enforcement authorities. There may well be room for discussions a la Man City to try and achieve a compromise but in the first instance the club will have to demonstrate that it is able to comply with the requirements as they now exist You are missing the point - no authority has ever had the courage or the evidence to take any closure action. Do you honestly believe an underfunded local authority would risk taking potentially expensive action against a football club? Good use of tax payers money? I don''t think so.

Is it a sitting spare, a persistent standing spare or standing during times of excitement spare?

Don''t see what the problem is with a tall person sat in front of you. All you need to do is stand up....oh I forgot, its now a criminal offence to stand.

the more you look into it, the more and more the legislation in place looks like complete unsubstantiated nonsense. Legislation that is enforced by the Football Licensing Authority (FLA), working with the local councils responsible for the safety certificate for each football ground within their borough, who in turn pressurise those clubs to enforce the FLA legislation."Persistent standing is not allowed" - can somebody please define persistent standing? Is it for 2 minutes? 20 minutes? 2 hours? If I stand for 20 minutes then sit down for 5 seconds, is that still persistent standing, as I''ve broke up that period of standing?"Standing is acceptable during moments of excitement" - what exactly is a "moment of excitement? A goal? A free kick on the edge of the box? A corner? I was asked to sit down the other week when we had a free kick on the edge of the box, if that''s not a goal scoring opportunity and a "moment of excitement", then what is? The whole game is a "moment of excitement" to me. I wait all week for the game, and the entire 90 minutes are exciting. Who can tell me otherwise and stand up in court and prove it is not?In order for a stand to be closed, or any action of that kind to take place, the authorities must prove in court that the action being taken is in proportion to the risks involved. Something they will never be able to do. Fans have been standing persistently in all seater grounds for years, with constant threats of stand closures. Nobody has been injured and there is not one single piece of evidence to suggest standing it more dangerous than sitting. No way to prove that the proposed closure of the stand is in proportion to the risks. There are no evidence of risks to present! Not one threat of closure has been enforced yet, and never will be. Some clubs seem to ignore the guidelines and allow their fans to stand. Other clubs pick and chose when they want their fans to stand. Every club could ignore the FLA and local council. Their legislation holds no weight or substance. It''s almost make believe.Man City''s safety manager  made a statement last summer, that the club have created a singing section in the lower tier next to the away fans, and he will NOT be asking stewards to enforce them to sit. They''ll be left alone to stand, as there is no safety risk with standing in lower tiers. He is 100% correct. And every game this season, City fans have stood all game, every game with no hassle from stewards. There has been no closure of the stand or threat of that from the FLA. They know they can''t win. If only every club had a stadium manager like the one at Man City.

A number of years ago, Manchester United were issued with a threat by Trafford Council and the FLA to close sections of Old Trafford due to persistent standing. In order to sanction that closure of stands, or sections of them, the FLA and Trafford Council would have to prove in court that the proposed action (closure of stands) is proportionate to the risks involved (risk to fans safety due to persistent standing). Something they will never be able to do, as there is no factual evidence of safety risks surrounding persistent standing in seated areas (as far as I am aware). Although I stand to be corrected if any can be produced.On the back of those threats, Manchester United engaged a company to carry out an independent Risk Assessment on persistent standing at Old Trafford. The only one of its kind as far as I am aware. The Risk Assessment found that the most "dangerous" times at Old Trafford for fans to be out of their seats, were before the game when fans were entering the stadium, during halftime when fans made their way to the toilets and refreshment areas, at the end of games when leaving en masse causing a crushing effect at exit gates, and last but not least - during "moments of excitement" and goal celebrations.As you will be aware, all of those "dangerous" situations identified within the independent Risk Assessment, are deemed perfectly "safe" by the FLA and their guidelines. All deemed "safe" and acceptable within the content of the Safety Certificate.The Risk Assessment highlighted that there was no apparent safety risk with standing during passive play. In other words, persistent standing. The only safety risk highlighted involved those standing on the first few rows of an upper tier, but again, this risk increased massively during goal celebrations and other situations highlighted above.Manchester United presented this Risk Assessment to Trafford Council and the local Safety Advisory Group (SAG), and their threats of stand closure and court appearances disappeared. Thousands of supporters at Old Trafford have since stood for 90 minutes every week since then, and no sections of the stands have been closed, or allocations reduced for away supporters.

Suddenly become unavailable for Luton on the online booking. Are we giving Luton more tickets in the Upper River End as home sales are very poor?

Still waiting to hear which games are to be televised

Adult tickets at £10 and kids for a quid should guarantee a full house. Luton taken 4000 allocation and their fans are moaning that ots too cheap and they will make very little money out of the game.

It was aways going to be a shambles. Most Norwich fans wanted to be in Peterborough before the special was even planned to leave Norwich. It wasn''t difficult to predict the need for the extra carrages would be the on the 8:57 and 9:57. Hence packed trains apart from the Special which appears to have been used by passengers who couldnt get the train they had booked. If the Special had left Norwich around 9.30 everything would have been a hell of a lot easier. Peterborough pubs were full of city fans while the special still sat in Norwich. 

[quote user="jas the barclay king"]The train station is next door to the ground. Get the train and its about 5 mins walk.[/quote] You serious?  Station is a 20 minute walk to the ground.  If you are driving there are a couple of car parks city centre side of the ground or loads of city centre car parks. Some off road parking if you don''t mind a bit of a walk.

Sems very late to be running a football special. by the time you get off the train and walk to the ground it will be past 2pm. Part of the fun of a good away day is a few beers and enjoying the atmosphere before the game. You use the special and you will arrive even after the club canary coaches and it will be straight to the ground. Everyone I know''s getting the 8:57 out of Norwich to hit Peterborough  before 11. Hope they have the sense to put on plenty of extra capacity on the early trains. Can''t help thinking they have missed a trick here unless its on Police advice to keep norwich fans out of Peterborough before the game. 

Durham will get to hear it sung properly in January when over half the crowd in his tinpot clubs stadium will be in full voice

BW - Sorry mate - no way I can get there today or I would have collected them

Where do you live? If you can collect from Downham Market my parents have 2 they can t use due to illness. The only problem is they are pensioner tickets you will have to upgrade

There are plenty of tickets on general sale on the Peterborough website. No restriction you can buy as many as you want. Suggest you get in quick though before they realise away fans are buying up large numbers in home areas. There will not be a further allocation. We already have more than the normal allocation of seats and all other areas of the ground are on general sale to home fans

Anyone done Reading by train before? If so how easy is it to get from the station to the ground? We have always been there by car in the past and as others have said there is plenty of parking around the ground in office and factory parks for £5. Going by train this year so we can enjoy a few beers on the way.

[quote user="Aggy"] and presumably Hughton feels that Turner is not as good as Barnett.[/quote] Which is interesting as the last manager probably rated him behind Ward, Ayala and Whitbread.

Do the previous posters actually believe that we''ll win a game under hughton?   A lot depends on how soon he realises we need to score goals to win games. You have to admire his very succesfull philosophy of tightening things up and building from the back...... except we have the worst goal difference in the entire league. if he could just grasp the very simple concept of scoring goals by playing some of your creative players we may just win a game. To be honest though looking at the fixtures i don''t see a win in the next few weeks

I admire your optimism. From what i have seen of Southampton and Reading they both look far better equiped than us to stay up. Both are a lot more adventurous than us going forward and have the ability to score goals. Southampton''s start has been as difficult as ours was easy. Swap our first few games and i would be fairly sure Southampton would be well above us in the league. To be honest based on performances so far you would be looking mid table in the championship to find three sides currently worse than us/ 

I think a lot of posters are mistaking bitterness for people just being a bit p****ed off at how things have ended. Personally I believe Lambert brought us the best 3 yeaars since the European days under Walker and for that I thank him and will remember him fondly. However nothing would give me more pleasure than to see him fail miserably and take the Vile midland club into the Championship. Its all about Norwich and Chris Hughton now and I really believe we are in for a better season than our midland "friends" 

Depends on what you mean by big:-   BIG empty stadium on matchdays BIG ego BIG mouthed American owners BIG number of years since they won anything BIG compensation bill paying off managers and compensation BIG chance of relegation next season