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Remember how we got Lambert!!!!!!!

I''m not surprised at all. Lambert has a history of walking out on clubs he manage. (that is if he''s gone) Remember how we got him.

[quote user="City1st"]"The money must be going somewhere" Compensating those that sit near you, perhaps ?[/quote]Well its gone into the clubs loyalty fund.

I don''t know about ambition but McNally put up my season ticket by 70%. The money must be going somewhere. If its not going in the team then where?

At last the "Barn Door" can be closed. FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST

  I took my rebate because that was part of the deal when I renewed and I didn''t trust the decision makers at the club and I still don''t.   FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST

City1st I don''t scrape the gutter to insult others on here so I will just ask one question. For the last ten years has the clubs business plan been a success?    FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST  

[quote user="Nuff Said"]When the season tickets were bought,VAT was 17.5%. Hence you paid VAT at the prevailing rate. When VAT dropped to 15% any casual tickets bought after that date would have VAT levied at the new rate. It''s not a con trick by the club, it''s the way VAT works. Season tickets aren''t some sort of hire purchase scheme, the day you buy one it belongs to you. [/quote] What rate was the VAT when we bought this season''s season ticket''s?   FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST

[quote user="a1canary"]"FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST!" That is precisely the outlook that has got so many clubs in to such a mess. Football actually has to come second, AFTER the basic principles of economics and of keeping the club alive![/quote] I''ve been ending with FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST for years, all the years money was not spent on the pitch but being spent on restaurants and posh lounge''s etc. If FOOTBALL had come first then we wont be in this mess now. Unless we have very rich new investor come in only FOOTBALL will rectify years of mistakes.   FOOTBALL WILL COME FIRST 

[quote user="blahblahblah"][quote user="BBFF"] Can someone please ask why the 2.5% cut in VAT was never past onto us season ticket holders but casual tickets where cheaper?   FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST[/quote] Something to do with having to change 20,000 direct debit accounts mid-way through the season I''d guess ?  Maybe it was too difficult to do ? [/quote] The cut came in January last year so it could have been passed on to us when we renewed for this season?   FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST

Can someone please ask why the 2.5% cut in VAT was never past onto us season ticket holders but casual tickets where cheaper?   FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST

Even if you don''t include last years relegation rebate, being over 60 a £1 a game increase on my season ticket is a 10% increase. So where the club gets it 6% from I don''t know? We still have to remember the 2.5% reduction in VAT last year was never passed onto season ticket holder when casual supports got their tickets reduced. I just hope some of this gets asked at tonight''s share holders meeting.   FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST

[quote user="Bob Franklin"]IMO much of what Gunn says is accurate and guaranteed to provoke the sort of nastiness that is already appearing on this thread. However, if I had been Gunn I would have kept a low profile on this until the end of the season. I will mention that I agree with his stance re McNally''s public allegation that Gunn was guilty of poor preparation. Like I have said already too many times before, I don''t remember a better pre-season run of matches than that which Gunn and his quickly assembled new squad achieved and who can criticize him for his player acquisitions.Although, of course, Gunn detractors on here will not even give him credit for the likes of Holt, Hughes, Askou forgetting that even if it was Deehan who brought them to Gunn''s attention it was Gunn who took responsibilty for the final decision just like any other organisation. Perhaps if McNally had kept his trap shut then Gunn may have done too.[/quote] I totally agree with you Bob, well said.   FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST

The old chairman told us that we get no profit from the hotels every day running. The other two partners use the profit to pay off the loan they took out to build it. We should get a pay out once a year something to do with valuation? It was always going to be a long term investment and to be sold at some time. I think it was a waste time, money and land. It should have been a normal stand how ever many seats it would have had.   FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST

When the Smiths took over they decided the restaurant had to be rebuilt in the Barclay. It took longer than scheduled and would not be open it time for the start of the season so they asked the league if we could play the first game of the season away. That in my mind was the first time the Smiths made it clear that football was not going to be the most important thing at Carrow Rd or the normal every day supporter. The matchday dinner has ruled ever since.   FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST

[quote user="NCFC-47"]Saying if there was any intrest he would say no to Burnley because he''s ''Our manager'' Always trusted what ever Mcnally says [/quote]Did Colchester say the same? FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST

Gunny getting Holt in. FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST

He reminds me of "Mac The Knife" you don''t turn our back on him who ever you are.   FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST

If you read McNally''s reply to Walsall''s statement he does not denies a word of it, he just says its up to the ref if the game goes ahead, but if you were the ref and a manager who didn''t want the game played because he had a weaken team said to you that if any of his player get hurt in the game he would site you as responsible what would you do?   FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST

Gunny getting in Holt FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST

I took my rebate because the club said that my season ticket would cost less if we were relegated. As for giving it back, I don''t think so, I didn''t trust the old board and the new ones done nothing yet to restore that trust. What we have to remember is the club never passed on the 2.5% reduction in VAT to season ticket holders but did for casual tickets. Trust has to be earned.   FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST 

[quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="cityangel"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="cityangel"][quote user="nutty nigel"]with 7,500 posts on here [;)]   [/quote]   Mine have been accumalted over 6 years Nutty, not 3 years like yours [:)] [/quote] Indeed but I prefer to just post here... how many have you got in total[:^)] Come on... own up[;)]   [/quote] Come on Angel.. it''s only one quick sum.. add one to the other[;)]   [/quote]   I post regularly on several different  football sites Nutty and yes if I added all my posts up over the past 6 years since I had a pc I''d have around 20,000 posts but whats that got to do with your or mine pinkun post count ? Shall we get back to the thread and discussing Richard Balls column, what did you make of it today Nutty? [/quote] As far as I''m concerned post counts don''t matter. It''s post content that counts.  It was you who brought it up Angel[;)] I haven''t read Richard Balls column. What did you make of it? Would it be worth me buying a paper to read it?   [/quote] RB wants to make Lambert god, ok can put up with that but he didn''t have to give Gunny a kick at the end.   FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST

[quote user="NCFC_Shaun"]I think that was an excvellent peice of management by Lambert. It''s not that he simply wouldn''t consider anything under 8 million - it just keeps other teams away from silly offers, that may unsettle the player. If anybody wants to put a bid in now, the chances are it will be a very decent price, rather than an undervalued one. Therefore, if the player was to get unsettled by a bid and want to leave, at least we would be making a nice bit of money out of it.[/quote] What ever Lamberts says if McNally wants the money Hoolahan or who ever will be sold.   FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST

[quote user="nutty nigel"] [quote user="BBFF"] AC The land was bought to sell at some time as was the hotel, Munby said the hotel was along term investment and would be sold at some time. If we are in such a bad state that we don''t wont school children or working people to see the reserves may it time to cash in some assets before we go under.  What''s wrong with us fans putting some money into the club that we all say we love? What about if the club set up some sort of trust say for 10 years. We buy say £50 units and in 10 years IF we want out money back we get the £50 or how ever many units you took out?   FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST [/quote] I think the biggest problem I would have investing more money into the club I love is that there''s plenty enough money in the game of football anyway. To my mind the reason costs have to be cut is the same reason that land and hotels are bought in the first place. It''s not because of a desire to play with alternative business income streams. It''s because the core business of football does not sustain itself. Until such a time as football clubs are forced to be self sufficient any further investment from the fans is just another way of supporting the salaries that are already obscenely high anyway. A change will come but until it does the game will remain to be about how much money rich people can borrow against the clubs they own to pay greedy players rather than about school kids being able to watch the reserves in the evening. Or maybe I just stumbled upon this post while I was in a cynical mood[;)]   [/quote] I agree with your premise nutty but at the moment the club looks to be in a very bad way, ever more than the new decision makers are willing to admit. At one time it was carrying a blanket round the pitch at half time to throw money in to keep the club going now its an on line money transfer. We are going to be paying for "on the pitch prudence" for a very long time. If running a FOOTBALL club was as easy as pulling pints we could all be in charge ;o)   FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST

[quote user="Attleborough_Canary"]BBFF, you keep coming up with ideas like fans putting more money in, sell off the land, sell the hotel, but as I said in a previous post (which you did not answer) is how does this make Norwich City PLC a sustainable viable business? One off fund raisers are all good and well but not to stem losses that a business is making year on year! Unfortunately, as said above, more cuts will surely follow this one, it''s not done to make people angry or to offend people, it is done to save the club some much needed money![/quote] AC The land was bought to sell at some time as was the hotel, Munby said the hotel was along term investment and would be sold at some time. If we are in such a bad state that we don''t wont school children or working people to see the reserves may it time to cash in some assets before we go under.  What''s wrong with us fans putting some money into the club that we all say we love? What about if the club set up some sort of trust say for 10 years. We buy say £50 units and in 10 years IF we want out money back we get the £50 or how ever many units you took out?   FOOTBALL MUST COME FIRST