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Now the dust has started to settle a bit I''m feeling infinitely happier than when Adams was given the job last year. That said it''d be hard to be any more pissed off than when they gave Adams the job full time last year. For me the thought that Phelan is staying put in his rightful and logical role is of great significance, the thoughtful and steadying hand. It''s hard to imagine there are many young and aspiring mangagers who would see his presence as an issue, it''s the Teflon CV to end all Teflon CV''s so a bit of a ''win win'' I think. It does strike me as a McNally gig, the lack of Papal Conclave, the lack of spin, faffing and bullshit to which we have become accustomed and it seems he knows we have have an issue with a few under performing egos and needs the sort of character onboard to deal with it. Quite looking forward to tomorrow''s trip.

If Alex Neil had arrived in the same set of circumstances Lambert found himself I''m sure he would preform admirably. One league lower, the weight of expectation far lower, players who have yet to sample the Prem then given his record in Scotland and all the plaudits he''s amassed I''m sure success would be ours to enjoy. As it stands that''s not where we find ourselves and whilst like most of us I really do hope it works out well as we can''t afford yet another disaster I''m concerned the job at hand may simply be too great. The Board in its current form can''t ride another managerial disaster unscathed, I suspect our historic patience may soon be tested beyond breaking point.

Perhaps then it is more a case that many of us have simply lost pretty much all faith in the Board and its ability to recruit a manager and every thing else that relates to it? When action was required they prevaricated, when experience and a relevant CV was required they opted for the polar opposite, when a singular and ruthless mindset was required they acted like sentimental doves. For now I''m pinning my hopes on the following: The infinite monkey theorem states that a monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time will almost surely type a given text, such as the complete works of William Shakespeare Sooner or later they must get it right?

If this is the thread for the cautiously hopeful with an element of the undecided then it''s the one for me. To dismiss Alex Neil''s chances before he''s even arrived at the very least would be deeply churlish and indeed bereft of forethought, for now it is a case of being hopeful. If I have one wish it is this, he very soon becomes a lucky manager, the odd decision that goes our way, a last gasp winner, Lambertesque if you will, from here the rest will follow. Just to add, I very much hope Phelan stays onboard to equip him with all the experience and savvy any new manger could ever hope for.

Jenkins, as you rightly state at least he has left, for now, with some semblance of dignity. Perhaps now the Baord might, just for once, learn from their mistake and actually recruit a manager who is just that, a manager. Not because he is nice, or that he bleeds green and yellow following extensive searches of Tristan da Cunha but because he can actually manage a bloody football club. If any of that bunch of nimrods are reading this, "A FOOTBALL MANAGER", repeat it again "A FOOTBALL MANAGER" and I don''t care how fucking nice he is either.

Resign due to terminal breakdown in relations with fellow Directors.

That''s it, couldn''t remember. I suppose like many of us there''s an increasing sense of dread about seeing all the brilliant work of the last few years unravel

From memory the Chairman mentioned something about having an overdraft facility in place if we are still in the Championship next season, which lefts face it, seems odds on. Perhaps I misread it but I''d be amazed if there wasn''t some sort of provision. Mind you banks aren''t going to be falling over themselves to finance a football club wether it''s ours or anybody else''s given the scale of debt that exists in the game. Assuming we do then I''d love to have seen the business plan that''d have been submitted and how having the most important roll in the club filled by someone with absolutely zero experience. Banks are funny like this, they tend not to get caught up in the sentimental.

''Good whilst it lasted'' Really? It wasn''t good, it was arguably the most successful chapter in the clubs history, from the cusp of administration to mid table Premiership, by any measure it''s a bit more than fucking good. He''s done remarkably well at Villa given what a basket case it is, he''s been significantly limited in what he can spend relative to pretty much any other established Premiership club. I''ll join the list of those willing to go and drive him here and if McNally or any of other wondrous Board don''t like it, well I suggest they find their way to the exit. Not that it''ll happen of course, we''d much rather have someone nice with Norwich City in their blood.

After all we''ve had to celebrate in 2014 I''m sure The Board will be doing their very best to ensure the club stay on a firmly downward trajectory. Further sustained periods of indecision, backing a manger who has never managed with players he will never use, the possibilities are seemingly endless. But fret not redemption is at hand, there''s a sale on in the club shop and it''ll soon be time to renew the season tickets.

For reasons best known to our Board of Directors they have backed Adams like no other manager in our clubs history relative to the league we are in, I''d imagine there won''t be many dissenters to this assertion? Having made the truly tedious trip to Reading on Sunday I found myself absolutely astounded by what can only be described as simply mind mending profligacy, the millions of pounds worth of plays at his disposal that simply sat keeping the bench warm. Obviously it was going to be a tough one playing just forty eight hours after the Millwall game but if ever there was a time to call upon the ''supposed'' ample squad then Sunday was the time. Unless I missed it all I happened was the same eleven tired pairs of legs that simply surrendered three points so "Bravo Neil" for that one. For months we have been hearing that the likes of Bournmouth and Ipswich will start to falter once injuries and suspensions tot up and that''ll be our chance, oh really? It seems to me that nothing could be further from the truth. If our Board have one remaining gram of sense they must surely question why they sanctioned the purchase of so many players who don''t actually play, why did we buy them, what are they here for? The list hardly needs mentioning, a quick scan of the squad list confirms my point but for me at least the complete stupidity of what I witnessed really was the final straw. Yes things have improved since Phelan arrived but surely even the most dedicated Board apologist must start to question what''s going on with Adams?

Do you relly think playing them at Wembley is survivable? I honestly think I''d keel over in the build up let alone watching the match, extra time, penalties...... Personally the Falklands wouldn''t be far enough away.

A particularly fine ''twelve days of Huckerby'', the corner stone of any festive away game. A number of amusing but slightly less vocal renditions, particularly ''He''ll snort what he wants'' but no idea who it was about.

Really good game and thought we looked infinitely better. Set up right, balanced, more composed and on another day we''d have come back with three points. Can''t really complain about the decisions, the one I''d like to see again was Olson getting his heels clipped in the second half, a whiff of penalty?

Perhaps, just a very tiny perhaps, there might have been more to discuss after the Reading defeat? It''s hardly pushing the boundaries of reasoned debate to consider around twenty six thousand people watched the previous week''s debacle as opposed to just a few hundred yesterday. Tricky hey.

How the hell has his love child managed to keep his place at Centre Half? A more boring, badly balanced and entirely predictable lineup is hard to imagine. Please, please, please, no more of this after today

My tickets are on the hall table and that''s exactly where they will stay, just thinking about the next round of this footballing dogs dinner..........---- no. Sadly and it''s very rarely I''ve ever felt this way about any Norwich team, I couldn''t care who he picks, the result will be the same. At least I can save myself a five hundred mile round trip and all the costs that go with it, its truly a grim feeling when you feel so completely ambivalent about them and it really never ever needed to be like this.

Til, The creation of the hotel joint venture through Kerrison Holdings required the club to in essence sell the site on a long leasehold agreement to its development partner, in exchange the club received a ground rent and share in future profits so in theory retained a beneficial pecuniary interest? Unless I''ve misinterpreted this the decision was based around the cost of corner infills being disproportionately expensive and this was seen as the best use. None the less in a pure property sense it was and remains deeply unimaginative and limiting for the club and could and should have been done much much better. Chicken, One factor that seems to have been omitted from the points you''ve raised is how Robert Chase ran into was the banking crisis of the early to mid 1990''s Chase was and possibly still is a property boy, for the most part it''s all he knew, strategically buying land to enhance the balance sheet to facilitate further borrowings wasn''t and isn''t unique to the club or indeed many other businesses. Where I suspect he started to unravel was as a result of tightening banking covenants and banks chose to reduce their exposure to sectors such as property, could he or should he have seen this coming? Make no mistake this is very much the macro perspective on his businesses decision making process and doesn''t for one minute ignore some of the howlers you''ve rightly mentioned. Seeing as it''s Friday lets kick it off with a favourite informal verb of mine, known well to our club from the late 80''s and into the 90''s namely trousering. The art of receiving or taking something for oneself; to pocket. You mention the old South Stand, I remember well enough being rammed to the rafters on several occasions in the Stringer era when you could still pay cash on the gate and yet despite the grounds capacity the broadcast gate was eighteen thousand. All most peculiar.

Excellent, many thanks indeed for that. Insured for £2.5m and yet we needed up with a replacement significantly smaller. Hmm.

So NN, my previous thoughts on ''He of the somewhat chubby grasping paws'' mightn''t be so far off the truth. The old main stand mysteriously burned down, it''s replacement was suspiciously small and even more suspiciously the Board that presided over this happy chapter all resigned only for our round faced friend to resurface together with Jimmy Jones. It''s a great script isn''t it! Whilst we are shooting the breeze on matters of history didn''t Jimmy Jones sell shares to Giovanni Di Stefano? If so just imagine what larks we could now be enjoying, he''d need to use Skype for Board meetings or a live link from The Hague. Now back to our pleasingly rotund former chairman, another epic chapter in his tenure was his passion for a well timed trip to Michael Powell Rolls Royce and Bentley. Just after Sutton got sold to Blackburn he once agin mysteriously showed up in a brand new Mulsanne Turbo R, not wishing to cast aspersions in his direction of course. Bless his little cotton socks.

How so, I was only fifteen back in 1985?

He became Chairman in 1985 I think, I just seem to recall it being rebuilt in the 1985-6 promotion campaign?

Consider how Honest Bob''s property dealings benefitted the club, when ever he gets discussed it seems to me that many are quick to throw the baby out with the bath water. Under his tenure we rebuilt the Barclay, did two corner infills, the City Stand, acquired land around the ground and of course Colney. The value to the club of that basic raw ingredient in any balance sheet mustn''t be underestimated, after all there never going to be any more of it made. The City Stand always seemed to be a massive opportunity lost, it was always way too small, of course there are always the questions about how the old main stand burned down and the tendering process the club engaged with for its rebuild. Perhaps any of you with a good enough memory could put a bit of flesh on the bones of that chapter? Subsequently we''ve built the hotel, the Jarrold and Community infill, oh yes, the hotel. What a wonderful thing it is, perched manfully over the stadium prohibiting any possible chance of actually closing the ground in with a stand, marvellous just marvellous. Then there''s the car park land behind the Jarrold, from memory this got binned out to Broadland Housing back in 2009 for a quick deal? Yes Honest Bob did some deeply dubious things but I''d also counter with his property acquisitions actually helped keep the club alive or thereabouts. "After a long and exhaustive tendering process the club are delighted to continue their relationship with RG Carter" Words from the legendary Doomcaster if I recall it correctly, not they''d bought a load of shares at the share issue mind you.

Sorry I must have missed something, when did Adams earn his chance to manage? With zero relevant experience for the job at hand I fail to see how he could possibly be the case, it makes absolutely no sense at all. Right at the moment there''s a mountain of evidence to support my point of view, just like there was in August and just like there was in May.

Purple, Swansea away last term was truly a horrendous day out, I really couldn''t imagine anybody who made their way to South Wales could ever have believed the manager would be in charge on the Monday morning. Purple, I will accede to your own interpretation of summer 2009 but with one caveat, namely a face to face discussion with a partner of one of The Big Four. The presence of both the new Chairman and Chief Executive was instrumental in retaining the confidence and support of the clubs key stakeholders. The Chairman pretty much admitted this point at his first AGM when briefing the shareholders that he had managed to bite retaining their confidence and overseen a restructuring. The other moot point in the context of this thread goes back twenty years to the end of the Chase era and one of the nastiest Binners you could ever imagine, a truly vile individual. This vermin lived in BSE and was dealing in Corporate Recovery for the clubs bankers at the time at sat loudly in a local pub braying about how he''d been able to do his level best to screw the club into the deck. Whilst I understand this sort of thing falls into the realms of the tediously esoteric I can hand on heart say this shyster warranted a bloody good kicking. Wether or not he was telling porkies is another matter but, such things remain in the memory and neither was I alone, there were one or two other of my BSE Yellows who had first hand experience of this ----.