Fraz

If we lose to stoke without a shot on goal then it will be next week,  The only thing i will say is that when the chips have been down both times last season, (Arsenal game at home & the West brom game) he''s got the results.

I would say I''m not losing my love for NCFC, just the sheen of the PL is starting to ware thin. The harsh reality of the premier league is that clubs like ourselves are just looking to stay in the league, gone are the days (like in 1992-3) when we can put up a title challenge and like 2/3 of the teams in it, we will lose more games that we will win. Best I can look forward to is on game by game basis, hoping we can beat one of the big guns, the joy at the final whistle. the only benefit of the PL is the financial side that we may be able to put a half decent team together and possible win one of the cups.

Thorny The problem has nothing to do with the opposition, it''s the negative tactics and the woeful performance our players give away from home. Yes on paper we were always unlikely to get anything from to days game and normally if you were beaten 2-0 away by one of the teams challenging for champions league places, you would half expect it, just the way we have no ambition and all we seem to do away is just focus on not conceding, houghton is always setting the team up and tactics for the 0-0 even when we''re losing.

You can see the club know how woeful the away performances are, the next away game against stoke they are paying half the ticket price so it''s only £12.50. On a serious note, it is an important game and if we fail to turn up and struggle to muster more than one shot on target, something has to be done about houghton, either he changes or we change him.

He has got to be worth £10m, he is up there with hart. Hart may have more ability than ruddy but I felt that he was faultless up to his injury where as hart had some dodgy games. He has become one of the best goal keepers in the league. If he was to leave he would need to be the number 1 keeper at. The club he was going to, he is too good for the bench.

I think its because they attract unknown players from abroad by offering themselves as a springboard to get them into the premier league with the promise they can leave if other premier league clubs come in for them. that''s how they work it and as new players coming into the premier league, it takes them time to get used to the league hence the poor start to the season and the strong finish.

Lets hope its a grueling 120min cup final on Saturday Both Man City and Wigan having to play 5 games (football league style) in 15 days, hopefully will go in our favour.

Looking at the players we have and what we are probably paying in wages, would it be fair to say on paper we have the second lowest wage bill, my guess that Reading have a lower wage bill, and probably the second lowest asset value of squads again Reading''s probably the lowest. I know money doesn''t always guarantee success (you only have to look at QPR) but could we be surprise that we could find ourselves being relegated with less investment in the team than the vast majority of Premier league teams?

I think the luck hasn''t gone our way but the one bit of luck we got in the Southampton game where we were given a soft penalty we failed to take it.

If the worst does happen and we do go down, do you feel the club should review the season ticket prices? Our cheapest season ticket is pretty much double the championship average of £268 http://www.pricingplaybook.co.uk/sport/championship-season-ticket-prices-20132014-update-and-analysis/

[quote user="The Great Drinkell"]Fraz - surely Holt''s penalty miss against Southampton was an easier chance and possibly more costly?[/quote] That was also a big moment but I feel the Wigan game has given them the momentum, plus we would be 3pts further ahead of them instead of the 2pts dropped by the penalty miss.

I heard the room had already been decorated for the occasion with big posters saying ''''well done NCFC for another successful season'''', RVW speech on how he is looking forward to challenging for the premier league golden boot and that it was been funded by next years tv deal cheque.

I think some of the blame has to go to the board We buy a striker who has hardly played and seems is a waste of time for the premier league And then buy a £8.5m striker too late.

Lee camp shouldn''t have let in that goal against Wigan, and that game has cost us the most and is the turning point for both teams. If we drew that game they would been 8 points a drift before today''s games, giving them to much opsychologically to stay up.

I don''t think hughton has proved good enough to take us forward and be good for us in the Prem. if we do go down he is probably the ideal manager to get us back up, being proven at Championship level. IF WE STAY UP 1 keep him and risk this poor form running into next season. 2. Sack him even though he achieve his alleged objective of keeping us in the premier league IF WE GO DOWN 1.reward him for failure and keep him thinking he may be the best manager available to take us up, repeating what he did with Newcastle. 2. Sack him out of principle for failure and hope we can get someone else in who can get us back up, even though Hughton would be one of the best managers about to get us up.

I think it is all down to the Wigan game, draw that and we are siting 6points ahead of them. I also think that villa game and stoke game were games we couldn''t lose, we basically made both those teams safe.

I think the only thing that goes in our favour is that including today''s game, Wigan have 5games in 15 days

Best save the cash in case we need it next season. On another note, if the worst came to the worst and we do go down I also hope that they also cancel changing the kit every season and the grade A £50 tickets

I say no more.

David moyes should actually read the rules, the time held up on the board which in this occasion was a 3, indicates the minimum amount of minutes to be played.

Is that his new nickname? Not sure it will catch on, Shortened to KKK

be careful, I just got referred to as a ''moron'' by ellis206 for having this opinion.

[quote user="ellis206"][quote user="Fraz"]I agree that Hughton has this negative talk about him, always talking how good the other team is, i doesn''t give me much confidence, it''s like we are beaten before a ball has been kicked. [/quote]So when the reporter asks him about the opposition you''d expect Hughton to say rubbish they were and fire up their players??? Don''t be a moron. Have you heard an opposition manager say negative stuff about Norwich this year???? No you haven''t, and you wouldn''t so stop using that as a stick to beat Hughton with[/quote]I don''t expect him to say that they have more quality than us, and I don''t think manager will often ever say a negative thing about the opposition, they will instead praise there sides efforts. 

Paul LambertSimple reason that with him in charge, as fan you always believed before any match that you could win that game no matter who you were playing against and that the team was always capable of scoring a goal.

I agree that Hughton has this negative talk about him, always talking how good the other team is, i doesn''t give me much confidence, it''s like we are beaten before a ball has been kicked.