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Idah, Mumba, Omobamidele & Soto to stay & be squadders. Poss Martin & McCallum as well. McAlear, Omotoye, Bushiri & Adshead to be loaned out (also Oxborough & Barden) Famewo is no longer a youngster (he'll be in 23 in November) and I can't see him progressing with us. Being back in the PL means there is cash to keep some of the U23 borderlines for another season, at least.

We swap Christmas cards!!

I reckon the City line-up here is: back row: Robert Young (trainer), lino, Halliday(?), Morris, Lochhead, Wharton, Thorpe front row: Kirchen, Burditt(?), Ramsay(?), Vinall, Houghton(?), Murphy Dougald Lochhead was at Norwich from 1929-50, as player, ****'t mgr, interim manager & Manager, and he scored the First Ever goal at Carrow Road. Alf Kirchen, born in Shouldham, signed for Arsenal after only 18 City games & won the D1 title in 1937-38. He is one of only seven Sons of Norfolk to win an England cap. Ken Burditt scored 61 times in 171 City appearances, while Jack Vinall rattled in 80 in 181. That Grimsby side finished 5th in D1 the following season, their highest-ever placing.

The match was the N&N Hospital Cup, May 7th 1934. City triumphed 7-2, Vinall (5) & Kirchen (2) scoring the goals. The three trophies are (l to r): D3(S) winners (won by Norwich that season) / Hospital Cup / D2 winners (won by Grimsby that season) The D2 Shield was retired in 1958 and can be seen at the Nat'l Football Museum. Exactly 364 days later Norwich City played its last-ever match at The Nest.

Alcohol sponsorship of football (or on shirts) is not banned. There is a voluntary code but there is no actual ban.

Addiction to many things ruins lives, including some which are already illegal.

When the South Stand was first roofed - 1959 - it was paid for by gambling proceeds. Between 1957 & 1965 Norwich City received - as gifts - £100,000 from the proceeds of gambling. Everton's success in the 1960s coincided with the appointment of John Moores, who had made his fortune from the proceeds of gambling. The League Cup was sponsored by a betting company from 1987-1990.

Football has been directly funded by gambling for around 100 years. Why do you feel that now is the time to make this stance?

I'm trying to put some flesh onto these bones. The Main Stand (including the two infills) seats approx 4,338, while the South Stand holds 8,434. Of course the New Main Stand would not mirror the South Stand because of the superior Exec facilities & fit-out that would be needed (Directors' Box, dressing rooms, media centre etc etc), so it would prob be a 2-tiered construction In 2012 it was estimated that to add 7,000 seats to Carrow Rd would cost £20m. I suspect this sum excluded the revenue lost from having a 3-sided ground for 18 months. The new Main Stand at Anfield cost £115m (this was adding a tier to an existing stand), while their planned Anfield Rd expansion (7,000 extra seats) is est to cost around £60m I can't see a new Main Stand (& infills) at Norwich costing less than £60m. Ideally, set £5m aside for the next 4 yrs in the PL (£20m), issue a Stand-Bond (£10m) and borrow the rest. But don't hold your breath.

It wasn't a slam at you. I've been following our progress on 538 & been quite amazed at how they just mirror the general concensus. AFC had lost their attacking threat (2 x Wilsons and Fraser), Howe had clearly run his course & the club was massively punching above their weight as a PL side. How is all that likely to result in an Automatic Bounceback season?

Sadly - for all their fancy language & stats - 538 dot com know no more than any of us. At the start of December (when City had been top for 4 matchdays) they saw it like this: To win Champs % & pts prediction: AFC 19% - 79 / Brentford 18% - 79 / Watford 17% - 79 / Norwich 14% - 77 Even on Jan 2nd 538 still had AFC as favourites to win the division.

I have heard this story before, and it is difficult to disprove, but: plastic seats were a new thing in 1975 and I am not sure where 6.000 second-hand ones would have come from. the installation of the seats was an unpopular move and the "second-hand" rumour may just have been another dig at the club / Sir Arthur I have never seen any plastic seats from that era that were not red or blue. Could it be that seats of any other colour were difficult to obtain or prohibitively expensive? (look at Wolves' first modern stand, four years after the South Stand conversion)

As I wrote earliler, Jarvis was in the WHU matchday squad on 29 occasions in 2014/15, so clearly he was match-fit for the majority of that season.

@Branston Pickle Any umbrage taken is at the casual repetition of an easily-disproven falsehood.

"only played 13 times due to injuries" Even that is wrong. Jarvis was in the matchday squad for 29 games that particular season (PL had 7 subs). He is listed as missing just 7 matches in Aug/Sept. through injury.

@Branston Pickle "sadly Byram was already a bit of a sick note before we signed him so we knew the risk, same with Jarvis" Another of these apocryphal stories. Matt Jarvis was not a 'sick note' before arriving at Norwich. He made over 400 appearances, averaging over 31 games per season. [For comparison, John Ruddy averaged 35 apps per season at Norwich] Jarvis, like Emblen, Notman & others, suffered badly through injury as a Canary but to suggest he was signed as damaged goods is just plain wrong.

His contract is until summer of 2022.

The most recent accounts show that we absolutely DO have external debt, but it is a lot easier to boast about being debt-free than admitting otherwise [ £10.46m, fully repayable in May @ 5.2% interest ].

Ref. the attached image; the cig card is from 1922 and Reg Wilkinson is from the 1923 Handbook. The image on the right (1933-34) shows how b/w messes with our modern day perceptions, as City played in y/g halves in that season but you could never tell from the photo. Blazer was normal matchday attire for referees.

"The old boy kicking off is Russell Colman - then head of Colman's Mustard and chairman of Norwich City. The occasion was a 'keep fit' effort for unemployed local men." Not sure if anyone can verify that, or maybe even expand upon it? It looks like Russell J Colman and it is clearly The Nest, but ... 1. The Norwich Unemployment Welfare Association (photo is from their archives) was founded in 1928 but the NCFC kits (green & yellow vertical stripes) date from 1920-23. 2. Would there be that many spectators at a keep-fit event? 3. The Norwich Records Office catalogue lists it as "...kicking off at a Club football match" (their capitalization) 4. Russell J Colman was President of NCFC, but never Chairman

Oxborough was in the process of finalising a season-long loan to Salford when he did his achilles, so the injury made little or no difference to the Norwich plan for this season (i.e. U23 backup for Krul & MM).

That would be very welcomed

"So am I correct in thinking from your responses that the Pink Un site does not have a league table? " Since the revamp of the entire Archant website it looks like all NCFC stats have been scrubbed. So no apps, goals, tables, stats from previous seasons or even historic stats. It is a shame but as the data on this site was often inaccurate it is not necessarily a bad thing. * If site admin points out that stats are still here, just buried in some dark corner, then accept my apologies.

@Midlands Yellow @dylanisabaddog Can you both please post what you remember about Ryan's 'missed' penalty? Was it saved by their 'keeper, denied by woodwork or missed target altogether? This is not a test, or trick q, this is for my interest. Thanks!

"PS: its Leitch, not Leech by the way" Obviously. There are a number of small corrections that could be made to it but, overall, it is a good piece of research. Who Knew? When the Carrow Road stadium was built in 1935 the Consulting Architects were Messrs Archibald Leitch & Partners.