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"...anyway, lets hope Todd can help start bucking the trend. " Last season's DS had 27 players, of which two were Norfolk-born (and one of them has now been released) Last season's U18s had 20 players and no more than six or seven came from East Anglia

The raw numbers say that the pool of males in Norfolk aged 8-14 is no more than 120,000. As London has roughly ten-times the population of Norfolk there is part of your answer. The other consideration is that we just don't produce many good footballers. Example, of the 1,260 England caps awarded just seven have been to someone born in Norfolk.

https://youtu.be/_TMktK65Px8?t=612 https://youtu.be/_TMktK65Px8?t=1556 https://youtu.be/HxXU_kpjJp8?t=2384 https://youtu.be/CmKCjQ_uhWc?t=3897 Enjoy! Transfermarket is a total crock of ****e for 'old' football stuff, and even the PL official site is half-arsed up until 2006, which is why fan-knowledge can be so useful.

1. You might want to run this through a grammar-check. 2. Your exact words were "how bad Neil was at improving players." I gave an example of just one player who clearly improved under Alex Neil (0 goals in 16 games under Adams; 4 goals in 23 under Neil. 4 PL gls in 50 under Hughton, 4 PL gls in 30 under Neil) 3 & 4. You have offered a view which I have countered (with stats & facts). 4. "Terse" is not the same as "insulting". Maybe a dictionary might help? Continuing to call me childish names after I politely asked you not to is revealing.

You moaned about a long-departed manager not improving players, in the same breath highlighting Wes' performance. Wes clearly improved as a player while at Norwich, and all his managers / coaches would have contributed to that. And please don't be insulting. Your opinion is just that, and no more (or less valid) than anyone else's.

So Alex Neil was bad at improving players but, under Alex Neil, Wes was clearly an improved player? 🤷‍♂️ Very few players look better during a relegation-season. They may benefit from the experience, and youngsters will mature, but losing most weeks is not improving.

In an old programme Bryan claims to have "saved a couple [of penalties] at Old Trafford", but I can only identify one (vs Brian MClair, October 1988) Anyone recall any other pens BGunn saved at Old Trafford? (or were missed)

It would be nice if that were so, as the roof-top lights are at such a low angle that they impair vision [ 20 years ago there was no floodlight glare in my eyes, now there is ]

"We must be a really attractive proposition now..." Why do you think so? 1. There is minimal potential for increased matchday revenue (ground is already Sold Out & making CR bigger will cost a fortune) 2. There is a high risk of declining overeall revenue (relegation and/or downturn in value of TV deals) Investors want a financial return which is why they are attracted to 'sleeping giants' (Sheff W, Portsmouth, Wrexham, Sunderland etc) . And investors don't like spending their own money (the Burnley takeover is being funded in a very similar way to Glazers' Man Utd deal) If you are looking to flip a house for profit you buy a wreck (for cheap) & do it up. You certainly don't buy the well-presented cottage with no parking, especially the one in a conservation area with restrictions on development!

@Graham Paddons Beard I was responding to a point that you raised.

This 'unavailability of tickets' is a red herring. In 2018/19 there were 18 away Lge games that were on Open Sale, plus three Cup games. And 18 home games were NOT announced as Sold Out, ditto both Cup games. So, of 51 games played in 2018/19, EIGHTY PER CENT had open ticket availabilty. Even last season there were 13 away games that went on General Sale. The problem that Kensall faced was that a few folk griped about not getting tickets to the late-season Must Sees (at Rotherham and Villa) plus he is charged with maxmising revenue.

What defines "the official badge", and what evidence is there that this version was ever official? This badge wasn't ever used on the kit, wasn't used in the matchday programmes, nor the Handbooks. Does anyone have anything showing NCFC using this badge in any official capacity?

They would say that. I very much doubt they will be spending time analysing or cross-referencing postcodes Limiting the vote to those with a customer # would have been a much more sensible option. Long ago they used to hand out Voting Slips as you went through the turnstiles at CR. The system now is akin to them handing out those slips at the away turnstiles.

Idah, Mumba, Omobamidele & Soto to stay & be squadders. Poss Martin & McCallum as well. McAlear, Omotoye, Bushiri & Adshead to be loaned out (also Oxborough & Barden) Famewo is no longer a youngster (he'll be in 23 in November) and I can't see him progressing with us. Being back in the PL means there is cash to keep some of the U23 borderlines for another season, at least.

We swap Christmas cards!!

I reckon the City line-up here is: back row: Robert Young (trainer), lino, Halliday(?), Morris, Lochhead, Wharton, Thorpe front row: Kirchen, Burditt(?), Ramsay(?), Vinall, Houghton(?), Murphy Dougald Lochhead was at Norwich from 1929-50, as player, ****'t mgr, interim manager & Manager, and he scored the First Ever goal at Carrow Road. Alf Kirchen, born in Shouldham, signed for Arsenal after only 18 City games & won the D1 title in 1937-38. He is one of only seven Sons of Norfolk to win an England cap. Ken Burditt scored 61 times in 171 City appearances, while Jack Vinall rattled in 80 in 181. That Grimsby side finished 5th in D1 the following season, their highest-ever placing.

The match was the N&N Hospital Cup, May 7th 1934. City triumphed 7-2, Vinall (5) & Kirchen (2) scoring the goals. The three trophies are (l to r): D3(S) winners (won by Norwich that season) / Hospital Cup / D2 winners (won by Grimsby that season) The D2 Shield was retired in 1958 and can be seen at the Nat'l Football Museum. Exactly 364 days later Norwich City played its last-ever match at The Nest.

Alcohol sponsorship of football (or on shirts) is not banned. There is a voluntary code but there is no actual ban.

Addiction to many things ruins lives, including some which are already illegal.

When the South Stand was first roofed - 1959 - it was paid for by gambling proceeds. Between 1957 & 1965 Norwich City received - as gifts - £100,000 from the proceeds of gambling. Everton's success in the 1960s coincided with the appointment of John Moores, who had made his fortune from the proceeds of gambling. The League Cup was sponsored by a betting company from 1987-1990.

Football has been directly funded by gambling for around 100 years. Why do you feel that now is the time to make this stance?

I'm trying to put some flesh onto these bones. The Main Stand (including the two infills) seats approx 4,338, while the South Stand holds 8,434. Of course the New Main Stand would not mirror the South Stand because of the superior Exec facilities & fit-out that would be needed (Directors' Box, dressing rooms, media centre etc etc), so it would prob be a 2-tiered construction In 2012 it was estimated that to add 7,000 seats to Carrow Rd would cost £20m. I suspect this sum excluded the revenue lost from having a 3-sided ground for 18 months. The new Main Stand at Anfield cost £115m (this was adding a tier to an existing stand), while their planned Anfield Rd expansion (7,000 extra seats) is est to cost around £60m I can't see a new Main Stand (& infills) at Norwich costing less than £60m. Ideally, set £5m aside for the next 4 yrs in the PL (£20m), issue a Stand-Bond (£10m) and borrow the rest. But don't hold your breath.

It wasn't a slam at you. I've been following our progress on 538 & been quite amazed at how they just mirror the general concensus. AFC had lost their attacking threat (2 x Wilsons and Fraser), Howe had clearly run his course & the club was massively punching above their weight as a PL side. How is all that likely to result in an Automatic Bounceback season?

Sadly - for all their fancy language & stats - 538 dot com know no more than any of us. At the start of December (when City had been top for 4 matchdays) they saw it like this: To win Champs % & pts prediction: AFC 19% - 79 / Brentford 18% - 79 / Watford 17% - 79 / Norwich 14% - 77 Even on Jan 2nd 538 still had AFC as favourites to win the division.

I have heard this story before, and it is difficult to disprove, but: plastic seats were a new thing in 1975 and I am not sure where 6.000 second-hand ones would have come from. the installation of the seats was an unpopular move and the "second-hand" rumour may just have been another dig at the club / Sir Arthur I have never seen any plastic seats from that era that were not red or blue. Could it be that seats of any other colour were difficult to obtain or prohibitively expensive? (look at Wolves' first modern stand, four years after the South Stand conversion)