Concerned

[Row D Seat 7 0]

The news of bids for Gary Hooper and Danny Graham somewhat papered over the cracks for me last week, but after the heavy defeat at Liverpool on Saturday, it brought me back down to earth with a bump. I''m not usually negative but on Saturday I had a feeling we just didn''t have a chance.

During and after our 10 game unbeaten run, at no point did I think we were safe. Certainly not with just 25 points. With 1 point from the last 18 on offer it''s MAYBE becoming apparent that some players/staff in-house believed the job was almost done. However, a run of tough Christmas fixtures didn''t help us, I will admit.

I''m also concerned that Chris Hughton is set to sign yet another bloody goalkeeper. Another one that''s not much taller than the actor, Warwick Davis. CH clearly doesn''t rate Steer and Rudd which is a shame as every player deserves a chance.

It also worries me that Hughton thought we could get get Harry Kane on the cheap and that would solve our problems. I''m not convinced we will get Graham or Hooper. We certainly won''t get both, so if both of those options disappear, are we back to doing things on the cheap again? CMS anyone? Or maybe another Premiership reserve team player on loan who has a track record of scoring a few in the Championship?

Our squad is good overall, but we have no front line. Opposition teams are just having to deal with Holt and on his own, he''s easy enough to play against. A walk in the park for most PL defenders because he''s so restricted.

With every defeat I find myself reminded of 94/95. When the fixtures came out at the start of the season and we had Man City away on the last day, I feared for us as if we need points going into the last game, we''ve had it.

Sorry to be negative but there''s room for pessimism on here as well as optimism. The above is just what I feel about our direction right now.

Thanks for taking the time to read. Cheers.

[Row D Seat 7 0]

When I say Holt is restricted, I mean by the way we play more than restricted ability wise.

[Stig 0]

Whether they will admit to it or not, or whether they condone saying any of this out loud we are all echoing your thoughts. Only a moron can read this post and think you are wrong. I doubt anyone has the temerity to deny this to be honest.

Complacency did set in, and it was quite obvious really. That, coupled with injuries has really set us back some. I too, hope we don''t need points come the last game of the season. In short, I agree with you and have the same concerns.

[Militant Canary 0]

I think you are wrong.

I am not a moron. Trust me.

[Row D Seat 7 0]

Care to say why you think I''m wrong?

[Militant Canary 0]

Nope.

[Stig 0]

Oh this should be interesting, something about being in the premier league and how lots of other clubs would snap our hand off to be in this position? We should feel privileged? No doubt it will be the same thing over and over, how dare we be concerned for our fragile premier league position!

[Stig 0]

Even better! No reason at all, just blindly following along.

[Graham Humphrey 13]

[quote user="Resident Canary Stig"]Even better! No reason at all, just blindly following along.[/quote]You really are becoming incredibly tiresome.  Like a small child who didn''t get exactly what he wanted for Christmas.

[Militant Canary 0]

What in hells name are you talking about, Stig?

I''m not going rant on for three reasons:

1) It is impossible to have a cogent and reasoned argument with someone who has already made up their mind and has, clearly, set it in stone.

2) I think it better to let the passage of time prove me right. It requires patience... heard of that?

3) This message board, which has at times in the past been my only means of connecting with the club I love, is seriously pissing me off. I have put more thought into a situation whilst I have been under heavy gunfire with no time to think than so many on here put into ANYTHING. In essence, I''m getting the impression that far too many on here are basically educationally sub-normal and I fear I may become unpleasant as a result. Its making me get quite snobbish in that respect... and trust me, I hate snobbish b*****ds.

Think I''ll just stay away from here altogether for a while, actually.

So, farewell. Enjoy yourselves as you w**k away about impending doom. And to quote General Melchett: "If nothing else, a pig headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through".

[Row D Seat 7 0]

@Militant Canary

Not really sure why you bothered contributing to the thread then.

[Stig 0]

What the hell is the point in coming into this thread and saying you disagree and then offering nothing to the discussion. That''s what I''m tired of, people being argumentative but offering absolutely nothing other than an insult and one word answers. And then look, when I reason my opinion and someone else echoes my thoughts I get called tiresome and spoilt.

Incredible. Am I so wrong in voicing my opinion in thinking we are so close to the brink of letting a very fragile league position escape us?

[Dicky 0]

[quote user="Graham Humphrey"][quote user="Resident Canary Stig"]Even better! No reason at all, just blindly following along.[/quote]You really are becoming incredibly tiresome.  Like a small child who didn''t get exactly what he wanted for Christmas.[/quote]

Agreed. Why you have Canary in your name, I do not know

[Militant Canary 0]

Hmm. That became a rant.

Never mind. F**k you.

[Graham Humphrey 13]

That''s a shame Militant.  You''re definitely one of the most articulate, sensible and interesting posters on here.  But of course people like Stig can''t get their heads out of their arse for long enough to actually read them leading to comments like the above.  "Educationally sub-normal" somes up quite a number of people on here and to be honest, sums up a lot of our fanbase in general.

[Stig 0]

Annnd still you''ve offered nothing to the original discussion point of this thread. Yet you insult me even more, harp on about your military days which holds sod all relevance and then flee the scene. Guess what, I''ve come here to talk about the club as well but yet you are the one that isn''t even talking about it! You''ve ruined this thread and blamed me, you are incredible.

My opinion of course is not set in stone, the instant we DO sign DG or GH I''ll be the first to run around like a headless chicken filled with absolute excitement. I was the one banging on about Hooper and how much I want him here, and the thought we might not take this oppurtunity is one of the reasons I am voicing all my negative thoughts other than my positive ones. But that''s enough of that, you don''t want to discuss any of that with a "sub-normal" person.

Thanks.

[Stig 0]

Now I am being attacked by not just militant but three other posters for having an opinion! Maybe I was rash to assume anyone who disagreed was a moron, but then none of you are even interested in countering it as to why we shouldn''t be concerned which speaks volumes. As I said, thank you for being very abusive...

[norfolkbroadslim 225]

I have every confidence that we WILL sign 3 players this month[;)]

[Graham Humphrey 13]

[quote user="Resident Canary Stig"]Now I am being attacked by not just militant but three other posters for having an opinion![/quote]No you''re not.  The fact that you''re bleating on about the same rubbish in every sodding thread might have something to do with it.  You''re only interested in hearing your own voice and not anybody else''s, so understandably nobody''s going to bother offering alternative viewpoints for you when you act like a spoilt child the whole time.

[Row D Seat 7 0]

Haha I posted on here genuinely wanting people''s opinions about our current bad form. However, predictably it becomes a squabble.

Really should put an age limit on these message boards. Getting rid of the teenagers really would make it more interesting on here.

[Mister Chops 7]

[quote user="Row D Seat 7"]I''m also concerned that Chris Hughton is set to sign yet another bloody goalkeeper. Another one that''s not much taller than the actor, Warwick Davis. CH clearly doesn''t rate Steer and Rudd which is a shame as every player deserves a chance.[/quote]Error code 506:Internal logic violation.

[Stig 0]

We''re all bleating on about the same shite! Hooper, Graham, being concerned, not being concerned. That''s all this place has been for the last month, I want you to tell me why I shouldn''t be concerned. The only thing that being concerned garners on here is a personal attack. I''m being called stupid, selfish, self absorbed - all because I''m worried at the moment! What happened to the fresh start SDP mentioned??? I''m ASKING you to reply to me in a polite and concise fashion on the topic and you''re refusing while telling me what a shit human I am... I''m seriously gob smacked...

I''m all ears to your viewpoint on why we shouldn''t be concerned.

[norfolkbroadslim 225]

I''M NOT CONCERNED! I have every confidence that we WILL sign 3 players this month[;)]

 

[:)]

 

[Mister Chops 7]

[quote user="Row D Seat 7"]The news of bids for Gary Hooper and Danny Graham somewhat papered over the cracks for me last week, but after the heavy defeat at Liverpool on Saturday, it brought me back down to earth with a bump. I''m not usually negative but on Saturday I had a feeling we just didn''t have a chance.

During and after our 10 game unbeaten run, at no point did I think we were safe. Certainly not with just 25 points. With 1 point from the last 18 on offer it''s MAYBE becoming apparent that some players/staff in-house believed the job was almost done. However, a run of tough Christmas fixtures didn''t help us, I will admit.

I''m also concerned that Chris Hughton is set to sign yet another bloody goalkeeper. Another one that''s not much taller than the actor, Warwick Davis. CH clearly doesn''t rate Steer and Rudd which is a shame as every player deserves a chance.

It also worries me that Hughton thought we could get get Harry Kane on the cheap and that would solve our problems. I''m not convinced we will get Graham or Hooper. We certainly won''t get both, so if both of those options disappear, are we back to doing things on the cheap again? CMS anyone? Or maybe another Premiership reserve team player on loan who has a track record of scoring a few in the Championship?

Our squad is good overall, but we have no front line. Opposition teams are just having to deal with Holt and on his own, he''s easy enough to play against. A walk in the park for most PL defenders because he''s so restricted.

With every defeat I find myself reminded of 94/95. When the fixtures came out at the start of the season and we had Man City away on the last day, I feared for us as if we need points going into the last game, we''ve had it.

Sorry to be negative but there''s room for pessimism on here as well as optimism. The above is just what I feel about our direction right now.

Thanks for taking the time to read. Cheers.[/quote]This is rather good."I''m not usually negative but...."

• "on Saturday I had a feeling we just didn''t have a chance."

• "During and after our 10 game unbeaten run, at no point did I think we were safe."
• "I''m not convinced we will get Graham or Hooper."
• "We certainly won''t get both, so if both of those options disappear, are we back to doing things on the cheap again? CMS anyone?"
• "Opposition teams are just having to deal with Holt and on his own, he''s
  easy enough to play against. A walk in the park for most PL defenders
  because he''s so restricted."
• "With every defeat I find myself reminded of 94/95."
• "When the fixtures came out at the start of the season and we had Man
  City away on the last day, I feared for us as if we need points going
  into the last game, we''ve had it."

I would suggest you sound inherently negative. By your own admission you were negative through the 10 game run, negative at the start of the season when the fixtures came out, negative after every defeat, and negative about our team and our club''s ability to sign players.

I recommend the Nine Inch Nails, the Cure and Joy Division.

[Mister Chops 7]

[quote user="Resident Canary Stig"]We''re all bleating on about the same shite! Hooper, Graham, being concerned, not being concerned. That''s all this place has been for the last month, I want you to tell me why I shouldn''t be concerned. The only thing that being concerned garners on here is a personal attack. I''m being called stupid, selfish, self absorbed - all because I''m worried at the moment! What happened to the fresh start SDP mentioned??? I''m ASKING you to reply to me in a polite and concise fashion on the topic and you''re refusing while telling me what a shit human I am... I''m seriously gob smacked...

I''m all ears to your viewpoint on why we shouldn''t be concerned.[/quote]Well, I''m not concerned because we have 26 points and several very winnable games coming up against teams around or below us in the league.  Even if we don''t get Hooper or Graham I believe we will strengthen the squad and have enough to stay up this season with two games to spare.  We can then invest more heavily in the summer and push on from there.

[lake district canary 4,825]

Imo people ought to calm down a bit and look at the situation realistically.   We''ve had a bad run and need to get over it.    Remember the fine lines between success and failure.   The fact that we had a 10 match unbeaten run shows we have the ability to do well.   We could easily have drawn/lost in that run.   The games we lost before Liverpool we were in - even the Man City game there was only one goal in it.    The Liverpool match was very poor - but maybe Hughton will have learned a bit more about our players as a result.The name of the game is keeping your nerve and not getting upset about the season.  Anything can happen - get the team up to full strength with maybe one or two coming in - and we will improve again.    No question.  

[Stig 0]

I have no doubt that the squad at full strength will pull us through, when we had the starting XI to do the 10 game run we looked fantastic with some brilliant composure and felt every game was winnable this season and I cannot wait for everyone to return. I dearly hope that we do strengthen, again I believe we will, but I''d hate to miss out on the best targets we could get - truth be told THAT is my main worry.

I''m sorry if my posts have driven some to the point of leaving the board... that wasn''t my intention and I do see Positivety in the club, of course I do. I''ll put it down to blue monday and January panic. You need only look back to my first ever post on this forum to see I was exactly the opposite of what I am now.

/deep breath

...and on we go.

[Mr Brownstone 0]

[quote user="Resident Canary Stig"]

Yet you insult me even more, harp on about your military days which holds sod all relevance and then flee the scene.

[/quote]

 

Hahahahahahaha!! Made my day!!

[Cantiaci Canary 610]

[quote user="Mister Chops"][quote user="Resident Canary Stig"]We''re all bleating on about the same shite! Hooper, Graham, being concerned, not being concerned. That''s all this place has been for the last month, I want you to tell me why I shouldn''t be concerned. The only thing that being concerned garners on here is a personal attack. I''m being called stupid, selfish, self absorbed - all because I''m worried at the moment! What happened to the fresh start SDP mentioned??? I''m ASKING you to reply to me in a polite and concise fashion on the topic and you''re refusing while telling me what a shit human I am... I''m seriously gob smacked... I''m all ears to your viewpoint on why we shouldn''t be concerned.[/quote]

Well, I''m not concerned because we have 26 points and several very winnable games coming up against teams around or below us in the league.  Even if we don''t get Hooper or Graham I believe we will strengthen the squad and have enough to stay up this season with two games to spare.  We can then invest more heavily in the summer and push on from there.

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Totally agree with Mr Chops.

We are 7 points from the drop and have played Liverpool and Chelsea twice, beaten United and Arsenal and earned draws at White Hart Lane and Goodison. We have taken points off all the strugglers (Reading, Villa, Saints, QPR, Wigan and Newcastle) and have the first 3 still to play at home as well as a Fulham side which is far from hot on the road. We have also bidded £10M for two strikers and there is over a week left of the window so don''t be too concerned. 

[Stig 0]

Reasoned counters to the discussion, at last, it''s like music to my ears. And you know what Cantiaci, when you say it like that it really doesn''t seem as bad does it? I''ll be the first to say that I won''t throw the dummy out of the pram if we lose against Tottenham, so long as we perform like a premier league side and give it a go like we know we can.