Hughton here to stay

[paul moy 235]

Holloway off to Blackburn and Coyle back to Burnley according to reports so it looks like come what may we will have Hughton for the season. 

[First Wizard 0]

Whilst I can see Coyle going, although isn''t he Judas according to Burnley fans? I can''t see Holly going to Venkey Rovers.

 

Hang on in there.

[Devils Advocate. 0]

If Trappatoni gets the bullet, would Hughton be a candidate for The Republic of Ireland ?

[lake district canary 0]

[quote user="paul moy"]Holloway off to Blackburn and Coyle back to Burnley according to reports so it looks like come what may we will have Hughton for the season. [/quote]

I think that was the plan all along.  

It really beggars belief  how some of you are thinking............Hughton needs time - there is no person out there who we could guarantee  would give us better results.    For better or worse we have to give Hughton time.     If it doesn''t work out we have to live with that and then try someone else.   Next season.   If he comes good he would obviously stay - if not and no signs of improvement are seen - he would go and we move on.  

[Mister Chops 7]

[quote user="paul moy"]Holloway off to Blackburn and Coyle back to Burnley according to reports so it looks like come what may we will have Hughton for the season. [/quote]Yes, because no other managers will become available between now and January.Honestly!Why would you want Holloway anyway?

[Herman 11,136]

[quote user="paul moy"]Holloway off to Blackburn and Coyle back to Burnley according to reports so it looks like come what may we will have Hughton for the season. [/quote]

 

So they are the best available options out there?The answers to City''s problems?Stick with Hughton if that''s the case.

[paul moy 235]

Nobody can ''guarantee'' better results, least of all Hughton, but mind you at our current level can we go much lower. The only thing he guarantees though is relegation if his current terrible performance continues. We do seem to be ''sleepwalking'' into another long period in the doldrums of the Champs with our attitude that only Hughton can do a great job, against all the evidence showing otherwise. He is a totally overrated manager IMO. 

[paul moy 235]

That was an answer to LDC BTW.

[Herman 11,136]

...and so are the clowns you suggest.

[whoareyou? 0]

I am astonished anyone would want Holloway at City. If ever there is a small club manager its him.

[Gingerpele 0]

If at any point this season we sack Hughton and appoint Holloway, I will not renew my season ticket.

What the hell is the obsession with him? He failed in the premiership, he has since failed to get his team promoted again.

Why on earth would anyone want him here?

Its quite pathetic, I honestly don''t know how you can call yourself supporters when you aren''t supporting the team. Being worried and being disrespectful and a douche are two different things.

[Mister Chops 7]

I think it''s just fundamentally flawed thinking:Hughton isn''t doing wellHolloway isn''t Hughtontherefore Holloway would be doing better?

[Baldyboy 1]

At least we would see attack minded football under holloway and substitutions if we need to change the game, instead of the dull sh*te we are seeing at the moment!!

[Herman 11,136]

[quote user="baldyboy"]At least we would see attack minded football under holloway and substitutions if we need to change the game, instead of the dull sh*te we are seeing at the moment!!
[/quote]

We all know we aren''t great at the moment,but we not playing Stoke/Bolton style farmers football.

[Old Shuck 291]

Holloway''s popularity revolves around his policy of attacking/entertaining football plus the fact he is an easy soundbite and popular with the media-he gives good copy and is relatively high profile. Supporters of his would, I suspect, favour both of those factors in championing him as a possible Norwich Manager.

 

I think he''s had three relegations in his managerial career-Championship to League One with QPR, Championship to League One with Leicester and Premier League to Championship with Blackpool.  He has two promotions-back up with QPR and Championship to Premier League with Blackpool plus, I think, two attempts in the play offs that didn''t make it-Bristol Rovers and Blackpool.

 

You have yo-yo clubs, he''s a yo-yo manager. Like Bryan Robson, Trevor Francis and Peter Reid-none of whom, I suspect, anyone would want to see as our Manager anytime soon.

 

Even if we do get relegated, I can''t see Hughton leaving the club-if we go down, he''ll get the chance to take us up again. Speculating his imminent downfall is folly-he was appointed with the long term in mind, whatever that might be-and with the security of tenure for the club that we never had with Lambert. Maybe not everyone will back him, or be seen to, and thats fine, each to their own-but the fact remains he''ll be here for the rest of this season and well into the next one. There isn''t an alternative out there, McNally won''t have a Plan B because one isn''t needed at the present time and, in anycase, sacking him would cost a fortune and make us pretty much untouchable for many a decent Manager-only the mediocre ones would be interested and we don''t want to go down that road again.

[lake district canary 0]

[quote user="baldyboy"]At least we would see attack minded football under holloway and substitutions if we need to change the game, instead of the dull sh*te we are seeing at the moment!![/quote]

We may be getting bad results at the moment - but it certainly isn''t dull!   The Surman effort that struck Snodgrass sums things up for us at the moment.  Sometimes it takes a little luck to get things going your way.   And patience.........

[Gingerpele 0]

Oh for goodness sake baldyboy, go support another team because you certainly aren''t supporting this one. That statement is just wrong. And I honestly can''t believe than any Norwich supporter can think that way. Its shameful. Football supporters/people are all stupid.

Yes were not wonderful, but we weren''t actually wonderful for most of last season. But for some reason, mindless attacking football makes the team better?

Well go watch the West Ham game again. Because we had that, partly because West Ham were useless. We attacked plenty against QPR, and Spurs. And were ok against Newcastle. We even had a few decent moves against the best team in the league. And could have easily scored when Liverpool were 1/2-0 up, would have changed the game.

Its quite simple, in those four middle games, what was mostly lacking was the final finish or on occasion the final ball (defending wasn''t perfect against Newcastle, they should have scored a couple more). Liverpool was a mess, but we scored twice, could have scored earlier in the game. Defence was a mess. Chelsea were just better than us, they have been better than pretty much every team this season. I personally can''t really get down because of the Chelsea game, we could have played 10 defenders, or 10 strikers, we could have played anything and we''d have still lost to be honest. They were fantastic, ok some of that could be because of us, but not just because of us.

Why can''t some people see the positives?

I understand worrying, I understand pointing out negatives, i''m not completely ignorant to the problems, but if like some on here thats all I see then i''d probably just give up on Football.

[First Wizard 0]

FFS People, Hughton''s CV isn''t that good, he''s not the Messiah, he''s a ruddy liabilty screwing up our players and dismantling our team.

[Herman 11,136]

Nobody is saying he is Wiz.But by saying that Holloway or Coyle are the only alternatives is just stupid.

[Gingerpele 0]

Wiz, your hilarious. Are you a stand up comedian?

[Lambo 0]

The irony... posters want two managers to replace ours who''ve both been relegated from the division in the last 3 years to replace a manager who''s done well in every job he''s had up to this point.

I do despair with our fans at times.

[First Wizard 0]

[quote user="Gingerpele"]Wiz, your hilarious. Are you a stand up comedian?[/quote]

 

[Y] Liked that GP.

[lappinitup 629]

[quote user="Wiz"]screwing up our players and dismantling our team.......[/quote]Read that again Wiz, even you will laugh at that! [:S][:D]

[SwindonCanary 457]

''Hughton here to stay''  Did anyone notice that instead of signing a one year rolling contract as in the previous 3 managers he has signed a 3 year contract ? Of course he''s here to stay, continuity is the way to succeed.  

[Phillip J Fry 0]

[quote user="baldyboy"]At least we would see attack minded football under holloway and substitutions if we need to change the game, instead of the dull sh*te we are seeing at the moment!![/quote]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qileP4bAzek

[paul moy 235]

To those that keep using the ''unlucky'' excuse, I say let''s create a more attacking framework whereby we create more good chances than we currently are. More good chances will mean that we will score more, so we don''t have to keep reverting to the ''unlucky'' excuse. Simples !!

[Mister Chops 7]

[quote user="Wiz"]FFS People, Hughton''s CV isn''t that good, he''s not the Messiah, he''s a ruddy liabilty screwing up our players and dismantling our team.[/quote]

Wiz wrote the following post at Sat, Sep 15 2012 6:58 PM:   The trouble is BB, Hoots has worked miracles with our sieve of a defence, give him time and he''ll get the attack sorted too. So shall we give him some time? Wiz wrote the following post at Thu, Sep 20 2012 10:18 AM: He has an aura about him which demands respect.  And 40,000 geordies plus 20,000 blue noses can''t all be wrong can they?   Wiz wrote the following post at Sat, Sep 22 2012 8:03 PM: Even if we''re relegated I''d be tempted to keep him, the guy just oozes class imo.

Wiz wrote the following post at Sun, Oct 14 2012 11:30 AM:

FFS People, Hughton''s CV isn''t that good, he''s not the Messiah, he''s a

ruddy liabilty screwing up our players and dismantling our team.

[Google Bot 3,936]

"When other clubs want your management team or players you know you''re doing something good" - I believe that was McNally''s quote at the end of the season.

Thing that bugs me is that it feels as though Hughton needs us, more than we need him.

Honestly, is there anyone out there who we fear may take him?

With Lambert we were worried about every managers vacancy. So, that''s the manager we lost... A guy in demand.

And we''ve replaced him with a guy who''s current club didn''t even put up a fight to keep him. And who else were in for him? No-one!

That''s where we are.

Personally don''t think he won''t be staying, i think that''s clear - After the next few beatings that we take he will resort to tinkering based on the hope that something will work. And it won''t because he will lose all respect, and in the process our player''s morale and sense of togetherness will slowly diminish.

Oh, i''m a jolly chap today!! :)

[paul moy 235]

[quote user="Lambo"]

The irony... posters want two managers to replace ours who''ve both been relegated from the division in the last 3 years to replace a manager who''s done well in every job he''s had up to this point.

I do despair with our fans at times.

[/quote]

Your assertions are debatable to say the least, and we have debated them. Just to remind you. Hughton got sacked in the Prem and failed to get Brum to the play-off final with dour football which goes against our principles, yet we paid for him to be released. Holloway got to the play-off final last season with exciting attacking football, has not been sacked since Hughton was sacked because he''s done better than Hughton on limited resources in recent years, and funnily enough is in demand by other clubs, whereas Hughton isn''t.    

[Phillip J Fry 0]

[quote user="paul moy"][quote user="Lambo"]

The irony... posters want two managers to replace ours who''ve both been relegated from the division in the last 3 years to replace a manager who''s done well in every job he''s had up to this point.

I do despair with our fans at times.

[/quote]

Your assertions are debatable to say the least, and we have debated them. Just to remind you. Hughton got sacked in the Prem and failed to get Brum to the play-off final with dour football which goes against our principles, yet we paid for him to be released. Holloway got to the play-off final last season with exciting attacking football, has not been sacked since Hughton was sacked because he''s done better than Hughton on limited resources in recent years, and funnily enough is in demand by other clubs, whereas Hughton isn''t.    

[/quote]

Do you have any evidence to prove this claim of ''dour football'' whilst at Birmingham?