Sod off Platini (and Blatter too for that matter)

[Jim Smith 2,611]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/platini-plans-for-summer-season-outrage-big-five-2190137.html

If they push this through England should just withdraw from Fifa/Eufa and lead a break away movement with the other major European leagues.

 

[alysha 0]

really hope this doesn''t happen

[PurpleCanary 6,391]

This interesting line is rather buried;


The fear for the Premier League is that the more radical proposals of a permanent change in the domestic season will be used as a bargaining chip, with Fifa and Uefa offering to pull back in return for concessions around the 2022 World Cup finals.

 

The point though, which seems to have overlooked in discussing a winter World Cup, is that you can''t just change one season to accommodate it. It would have a knock-on effect on at least the season before and the season after. At least three seasons.

 

[Jim Smith 2,611]

[quote user="PurpleCanary"]

This interesting line is rather buried;


The fear for the Premier League is that the more radical proposals of a permanent change in the domestic season will be used as a bargaining chip, with Fifa and Uefa offering to pull back in return for concessions around the 2022 World Cup finals.

 

The point though, which seems to have overlooked in discussing a winter World Cup, is that you can''t just change one season to accommodate it. It would have a knock-on effect on at least the season before and the season after. At least three seasons.

 

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If they try and hold the world cup in the winter we should challenge it legally. As I understand it Blatter initially (after the decision was made) made it very clear that the tender for 2022 was based on the summer world cup and that it would not be moved. Quatar also won on the basis of their bid promises that the stadiums would be air conditioned. If neither turns out to be the case the whole tender process was arguably flawed. I''m not quite sure how you would challenge it given Fifa is presumably not a public/governmental body but there must be some international law which can be used.

[Bethnal Yellow and Green 2,424]

I would ignore everything coming out of FIFA/UEFA at the moment. There is a lot of political manoeuvering going on at the moment due to upcoming elections. As the article mentions this topic was raised in 1998 and was pretty much laughed off as unworkable, the same will happen this time around as nothing has changed.

 

Also as the source is der Bild, which has as much credibility as The Star or Daily Mirror I wouldn''t worry about it too much.

[The Walking Man 13]

[quote user="Bethnal Yellow and Green"]

Also as the source is der Bild, which has as much credibility as The Star or Daily Mirror I wouldn''t worry about it too much.

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If that were the case FIFA/UEFA would just come out and deny it rather than saying ''there''s no concrete plans at the moment.''

[Bethnal Yellow and Green 2,424]

[quote user="The Walking Man "][quote user="Bethnal Yellow and Green"]

Also as the source is der Bild, which has as much credibility as The Star or Daily Mirror I wouldn''t worry about it too much.

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If that were the case FIFA/UEFA would just come out and deny it rather than saying ''there''s no concrete plans at the moment.''

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No they wouldn''t. There are a lot of people who want the international season to run on a calendar month, more than want it to stay in the current format actually. And with lots of delegates coming up for re-election and potential challenges to Blatter''s Presidency they aren''t going to say anything stronger than that for fear of upsetting a lot of people.

 

FIFA came out and said than 2022 won''t be a winter World Cup, then said it could be, then again said it couldn''t and their latest word is that the Qatar FA would have to propose it before it could happen... blah blah blah. The whole thing is best ignored until the elections are over and everything has calmed down again (or as calm as FIFA can ever be).

[The Walking Man 13]

[quote user="Jim Smith"][quote user="PurpleCanary"]

This interesting line is rather buried;


The fear for the Premier League is that the more radical proposals of a permanent change in the domestic season will be used as a bargaining chip, with Fifa and Uefa offering to pull back in return for concessions around the 2022 World Cup finals.

 

The point though, which seems to have overlooked in discussing a winter World Cup, is that you can''t just change one season to accommodate it. It would have a knock-on effect on at least the season before and the season after. At least three seasons.

 

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If they try and hold the world cup in the winter we should challenge it legally. As I understand it Blatter initially (after the decision was made) made it very clear that the tender for 2022 was based on the summer world cup and that it would not be moved. Quatar also won on the basis of their bid promises that the stadiums would be air conditioned. If neither turns out to be the case the whole tender process was arguably flawed. I''m not quite sure how you would challenge it given Fifa is presumably not a public/governmental body but there must be some international law which can be used.

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You''ve also got Mohammed Bin Hammam saying that Qatar bid for a Summer World Cup and therefore will deliver a Summer World Cup and as the most powerful man in Asian football his opinion counts for a considerable amount. Plus he''s looking likely to oppose Blatter in the upcoming elections but perhaps worringly seeks to ally himself with Platini.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jan/18/sepp-blatter-fifa-mohamed-bin-hammam

[SWP = Poor Mans Ruel Fox!! 0]

Cannot ever see it happening.  The idea of playing football in the summer in this country is bad enough, but could you see anyone wanting to play football in the summer months of Spain, Italy, or even somewhere like Greece or Turkey? Very, very flawed plan.

[paul moy 235]

I''d love to see us withdraw from the World Cup and hold Home Internationals instead, maybe inviting a few other nations such as Australia that should also withdraw after the way they have been treated. The World Cup has become a joke, unfortunately.  

[PurpleCanary 6,391]

[quote user="Bethnal Yellow and Green"]

I would ignore everything coming out of FIFA/UEFA at the moment. There is a lot of political manoeuvering going on at the moment due to upcoming elections. As the article mentions this topic was raised in 1998 and was pretty much laughed off as unworkable, the same will happen this time around as nothing has changed.

 

Also as the source is der Bild, which has as much credibility as The Star or Daily Mirror I wouldn''t worry about it too much.

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I''m sure that''s true. And not just about the forthcoming elections. Doesn''t take a genius to suspect that Platini has his sights on being in Blatter''s seat by 2022.

As to the Indie''s quote from Fifa about a winter World Cup:

Fifa said yesterday that there were "no concrete plans" to change the international calendar.

 

Actually what Fifa said was:

"Pour l''instant, il n''y a pas de projet concret pour changer le calendrier des matches internationaux."

 

"At the moment..."

 

Well, no, there wouldn''t be "at the moment..."

 

[Bethnal Yellow and Green 2,424]

[quote user="paul moy"]I''d love to see us withdraw from the World Cup and hold Home Internationals instead, maybe inviting a few other nations such as Australia that should also withdraw after the way they have been treated. The World Cup has become a joke, unfortunately.  [/quote]

 

Australia are very happy with FIFA at the moment, they were allowed to move to the Asian group and thus giving them an almost certain spot in every World Cup. Beat Bahrain and couple of times and you are in, they also now participate in the Asian Cup giving them a chance to get into the Confederations Cup.

[Syteanric 1]

so the summer season will be for the premiership only? so what about the other leagues.. and the premiership teams just stop in ocotober to start all over again in January for FA cup round 3?Platini talks some shyte he really does!

[Syteanric 1]

[quote user="paul moy"]I''d love to see us withdraw from the World Cup and hold Home Internationals instead, maybe inviting a few other nations such as Australia that should also withdraw after the way they have been treated. The World Cup has become a joke, unfortunately.  [/quote]there is a competition called the VIVA world cup, its contested by countries that Fifa dont recognise.. such as tibet and East Cyprus. they are poor quality teams of course but i think that for 1 world cup only the likes of England, Brazil etc should compete in it...it would possibly help these small nations in terms of revenue, would raise the stock of the VIVA world cup and leave fifa fuming at a world cup held in qatar and with the likes of Bahrain taking part. when Saudi Arabia win the world cup fifa might wake up a bit!

[Beauseant 0]

This is classic Blatter diversionary tactics. He''s up for re- election soon and certainly doesn''t want the corruption issue to be centre stage. By focussing attention on an issue well into the future (and long after his retirement from the post he can avoid to much scrutiny of what''s happening on his watch.

To quote Colin "I''d call him a sewer rat, but that would be unfair to sewer rats...."

[PurpleCanary 6,391]

[quote user="Beauseant"]

This is classic Blatter diversionary tactics. He''s up for re- election soon and certainly doesn''t want the corruption issue to be centre stage. By focussing attention on an issue well into the future (and long after his retirement from the post he can avoid to much scrutiny of what''s happening on his watch.

To quote Colin "I''d call him a sewer rat, but that would be unfair to sewer rats...."

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Beau, given your self-denying role as NCISA spokesman, I take it to be official NCISA policy (democratically decided) that Blatter is on a par with a sewer rat. Moreover I assume this is the first step in NCISA''s planned anti-Blatter coup, the tangible result of which will be to install a NCISA committee member as his replacement?[:D][:P][:D]

 

[nutty nigel 7,902]

It''s never going to happen is it? FIFA are becoming a laughing stock!

 

Much more interesting is the last paragraph - the Sports Minister saying football is the worst governed sport in this country. Changes at the FA are long overdue IMHO!

 

More here

 

 

[The Butler 0]

[quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="Beauseant"]

This is classic Blatter diversionary tactics. He''s up for re- election soon and certainly doesn''t want the corruption issue to be centre stage. By focussing attention on an issue well into the future (and long after his retirement from the post he can avoid to much scrutiny of what''s happening on his watch.

To quote Colin "I''d call him a sewer rat, but that would be unfair to sewer rats...."

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Beau, given your self-denying role as NCISA spokesman, I take it to be official NCISA policy (democratically decided) that Blatter is on a par with a sewer rat. Moreover I assume this is the first step in NCISA''s planned anti-Blatter coup, the tangible result of which will be to install a NCISA committee member as his replacement?[:D][:P][:D]

 

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To be known as "The day of the Jack all!"

This stems from Beau not listening. I said I was on a diet and that I needed to  replace BATTER

[Beauseant 0]

[quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="Beauseant"]

This is classic Blatter diversionary tactics. He''s up for re- election soon and certainly doesn''t want the corruption issue to be centre stage. By focussing attention on an issue well into the future (and long after his retirement from the post he can avoid to much scrutiny of what''s happening on his watch.

To quote Colin "I''d call him a sewer rat, but that would be unfair to sewer rats...."

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Beau, given your self-denying role as NCISA spokesman, I take it to be official NCISA policy (democratically decided) that Blatter is on a par with a sewer rat. Moreover I assume this is the first step in NCISA''s planned anti-Blatter coup, the tangible result of which will be to install a NCISA committee member as his replacement?[:D][:P][:D]

Just couldn''t resist a comment on this one!

I must, of course clarify that I am not expressing a NCISA viewpoint as the official line is that we are currently trying to fund a hitman to take out Platini....The Butler is already working on his French!

[;)][:D][Y]

 

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[YankeeCanary 0]

[quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="Beauseant"]

This is classic Blatter diversionary tactics. He''s up for re- election soon and certainly doesn''t want the corruption issue to be centre stage. By focussing attention on an issue well into the future (and long after his retirement from the post he can avoid to much scrutiny of what''s happening on his watch.

To quote Colin "I''d call him a sewer rat, but that would be unfair to sewer rats...."

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Beau, given your self-denying role as NCISA spokesman, I take it to be official NCISA policy (democratically decided) that Blatter is on a par with a sewer rat. Moreover I assume this is the first step in NCISA''s planned anti-Blatter coup, the tangible result of which will be to install a NCISA committee member as his replacement?[:D][:P][:D]

Just couldn''t resist a comment on this one!

I must, of course clarify that I am not expressing a NCISA viewpoint as the official line is that we are currently trying to fund a hitman to take out Platini....The Butler is already working on his French!

[;)][:D][Y]

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Really? Has he given up on English? [:D]

 

[Beauseant 0]

[quote user="YankeeCanary"][quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="Beauseant"]

This is classic Blatter diversionary tactics. He''s up for re- election soon and certainly doesn''t want the corruption issue to be centre stage. By focussing attention on an issue well into the future (and long after his retirement from the post he can avoid to much scrutiny of what''s happening on his watch.

To quote Colin "I''d call him a sewer rat, but that would be unfair to sewer rats...."

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Beau, given your self-denying role as NCISA spokesman, I take it to be official NCISA policy (democratically decided) that Blatter is on a par with a sewer rat. Moreover I assume this is the first step in NCISA''s planned anti-Blatter coup, the tangible result of which will be to install a NCISA committee member as his replacement?[:D][:P][:D]

Just couldn''t resist a comment on this one!

I must, of course clarify that I am not expressing a NCISA viewpoint as the official line is that we are currently trying to fund a hitman to take out Platini....The Butler is already working on his French!

[;)][:D][Y]

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Really? Has he given up on English? [:D]

 

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Given that I''ve spotted three errors in  my original post, perhaps I have![:D]

[city-till-i-die 7]

A pair of prize PRATTS, Blatter being the bigger of the 2

I suppose they both have justify their massive salary by looking to be doing something..[:S]

[Harry 0]

Oi Platini and Blatter [IMG]http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr59/HitMeWithIt/emoticons/1928_middle_finger.gif[/IMG]