SWP = Poor Mans Ruel Fox!!

  It feels like it is written in the stars that Liverpool are winning the title this year, pretty much everything seems to be going their way.  You can hear the hum of the plastic scousers already and its gonna get deafening for the next year I''m going to need earplugs!!

[quote user="mrs miggins"]why are we undermining arsenal when we''ve just been beaten by Fulham. We need to get at least 4 points in the next 4 games, who knows where they''ll come from, we need to keep working hard and do our best, theres nothing else we can do[/quote]   With a better GD than Fulham I still think 1 point might actually be enough cos from what I can see despite winning 2 games (against a rubbish Villa and us) they are still pretty shite

[quote user="CanaryOne"]The way Spurs are playing right now Fulham could be above us by 2.30 Saturday , Cardiff should join us with a home win over Stoke . [/quote]   Nothing like a bit of positive thinking.  Cardiff''s last home game was a 3-0 defeat to Palace, and Stoke are in good form.  Tottenham came back from a horrible start and 3-0 down to draw 3-3 on Saturday, they should have enough to beat Fulham.

[quote user="Rogue Baboon"][quote user="Herman "] [quote user="Brienne"]Whats your prediction Herman, stay up or go down[/quote] It all comes down to the Mackems. Win and we should stay up. Just. Lose and that is it. That''s if yesterday''s mess hasn''t dissolved all remaining confidence the players have. It sure has mine.     [/quote] what if we draw though? surely at this stage it is just as bad as a defeat [/quote]   No because if we lose to Sunderland that gives them 3 points and they are currently below us in the league, whereas if we draw they still stay the same amount of points behind us as at the start of the game.  Although obviously we really want to win to increase that gap!

  It will just be Villa getting very fortunate in their desperate attempt to bulk their squad up for little money, mainly it seems with players Lambert has worked with before

  Did no one else see the Daily Record piece about how Lennon was watching out match because Celtic are trying to buy Snodgrass?  Seems likely, although not at the price Celtic seem to want to pay (£4.25m)

[quote user="Phillip J Fry"]Can we just forgo the mangerial debate for one day, please? We''ve won a f***ing game, can we celebrate that before we start the whole Hughton in/out fiasco again? [:''(][/quote]   In total agreement.  Anyone with half a brain knows the board are not going to change the manager after today, so why the repetitive, monotonous arguments, lets just enjoy the fucking win!

  Still settling into the loss of Bale, lots of new players trying to settle in, hopefully a half-decent time to be playing them!

[quote user="Making Plans"]After 2 games the bottom of the table already has a very "end of season" look about it. I think you can assume that Swansea, Everton and WBA probably won''t stay down there so once you''ve taken them out of the equation then you''re pretty much left with the teams that will be fighting it out to avoid the drop. Even at this early stage I''d be surprised if it wasn''t any 3 from Stoke, Cardiff, Fulham, Hull, Norwich, Sunderland, Newcastle and Palace [/quote]   I wouldn''t be too quick to say WBA will easily pull away from the bottom, what with no goals from two games, their marquee signing wanting to retire and seemingly not a lot of money to spend.  They could be in for a season of struggle.

[quote user="PortlandCanary"]I''ve been saying that Swansea is over rated for ages now. Everyone says that they will have a top ten finish. I beg to differ.[/quote]   Top ten? I''ve seen numerous pundits say about challenging top 6 and maybe even a Champions League place!!

http://www.football365.com/faves/8777754/F365-Says   Not saying Tovoinen would be good for us or not, but interesting article nonetheless

[quote user="Yorkshire Canary"]A few twists and turns along the way yet but Norwich relegation now looking probable rather than possible. If Wigan beat Swansea then I think that is it. We have the worst GD which will kill us and we cannot buy a win.[/quote]   Think you could do with another look at the league table and respective GDs before making such a bold comment lol

[quote user="Not Nigel"]"You just made that up didn''t you?" They didn''t become mandatory until 1990 and the hardmen didn''t wear shinpads. George Best didn''t used to wear them very often![/quote]   but he still managed to walk from the field at the end of the game in the majority of matches

[quote user="Ha ya got a loight boy"]In most walks of life, if you''re good enough you''re old enough.    There is a totally false mechanism that works in the premiership in that you''re only good enough if you are cynical, money grabbing and have a fancy foreign name. Rudd and Steer, given the opportunity would do ok imo.   You have to be brave to give youngsters a chance.  Quite often they will surprise you and learn quickly.   But..............they don''t get the chance   They can''t get the experience at the top level, because they''ve got no experience at the top level.   So they have to go to lower leagues on loan where they get experience at being lower league players.   Where is the logic?    Like I said it should be - if you''re good enough, you''re old enough.  Put them in the first team occasionally and let them learn the hard way.    Paul Lambert follows that rule and just maybe he is right. [/quote]   Have to agree with that completely.  In my opinion if Rudd or Steer were on the bench they would have done just as well as  Camp if called upon against Sunderland.  Remember against WBA in the cup last year?   Its just at the moment it is better for them to be on loan than sitting on the bench every game.    Dont blame Rudd for saying something like that, he needs game time now to develop.

[quote user="Not Nigel"]"If it was Stoke player there would be pitchforks at the ready by now" Ryan Shawcross''s challenge on Laurent Koscielny last month should have been a red too, but it wasn''t, didn''t see many pitchforks. Football is getting soft, you would have got several challenges like that every game in the 1950''s and they didn''t wear shinpads. They should make the Newcastle team play the Wigan Warriors next time, that will shut them up.[/quote]   yeah so the ''in my day'' response?   so in the 1950''s there were several players stretchered off with suspected ligament damage every game?  Cos it doesnt matter what era we are talking about that is the only result from that challenge