BlyBlyBabes 0 Posted September 17, 2009 ''I think after 14 years the supporters get fed up with you..............'' - David Sullivan, Birmingham City.Unless things pick up this season, the crowds at Carrow Road will start to shrink significantly next year and the rump will get more than grumpy.And then? Hell ah start pop!Especially since if Cullum comes in for the shares at 1 pound each - same as Brum''s.But will the last roll of the dice with McNally and Lambert start to pull those irons out of the fire in time?Well, we''ll see what we shall see.Remember, you read it here first folks.[:-*][6]OTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joanna Grey 0 Posted September 17, 2009 [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]''I think after 14 years the supporters get fed up with you..............'' - David Sullivan, Birmingham City.Unless things pick up this season, the crowds at Carrow Road will start to shrink significantly next year and the rump will get more than grumpy.And then? Hell ah start pop!Especially since if Cullum comes in for the shares at 1 pound each - same as Brum''s.But will the last roll of the dice with McNally and Lambert start to pull those irons out of the fire in time?Well, we''ll see what we shall see.Remember, you read it here first folks.[:-*][6]OTBC [/quote]There''s nothing of any note to remember, just the usual old pointless guff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoareyou? 0 Posted September 17, 2009 The crunch comes in December 2010 when the next £2 million loan repayment is due.Unless DS & MWJ come up with the cash for that the club will go into administration and then will lose every penny they have put into the club.I suspect they may rather strangely find a buyer just before then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Lamberts Disciple 0 Posted September 17, 2009 Adjective: platitudinous `pla-ti''t(y)oo-d(u-)nus 1. Dull and tiresome but with pretensions of significance or originality "platitudinous sermons" - bromidic, corny, platitudinalSee also: platitude, unoriginal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beauseant 0 Posted September 17, 2009 [quote user="Fernando Derveld"]Adjective: platitudinous `pla-ti''t(y)oo-d(u-)nus 1. Dull and tiresome but with pretensions of significance or originality "platitudinous sermons" - bromidic, corny, platitudinalSee also: platitude, unoriginal[/quote] Don''t mess with a man with a thesaurus Fernando. Alternative word meanings are Bly''s second favourite hobby after posting inane, repetitive anti NCFC propaganda. An interpretation of "fifth columnist" might be appropriate though......[:D] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lappinitup 629 Posted September 17, 2009 [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]Especially since if Cullum comes in for the shares at 1 pound each - same as Brum''s.[/quote]That would be a HUGE increase from his previous offer. Why do you think he would make an improved offer after saying he was no longer interested? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlyBlyBabes 0 Posted September 17, 2009 [quote user="Mustachio Furioso"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"] ''I think after 14 years the supporters get fed up with you..............'' - David Sullivan, Birmingham City.Unless things pick up this season, the crowds at Carrow Road will start to shrink significantly next year and the rump will get more than grumpy.And then? Hell ah start pop!Especially since if Cullum comes in for the shares at 1 pound each - same as Brum''s.But will the last roll of the dice with McNally and Lambert start to pull those irons out of the fire in time?Well, we''ll see what we shall see.Remember, you read it here first folks.[:-*][6]OTBC[/quote] There''s nothing of any note to remember, just the usual old pointless guff. [/quote]You do so love living in cloud cuckoo land, eh?OTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlyBlyBabes 0 Posted September 17, 2009 [quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="Fernando Derveld"]Adjective: platitudinous `pla-ti''t(y)oo-d(u-)nus 1. Dull and tiresome but with pretensions of significance or originality "platitudinous sermons" - bromidic, corny, platitudinalSee also: platitude, unoriginal[/quote]Don''t mess with a man with a thesaurus Fernando. Alternative word meanings are Bly''s second favourite hobby after posting inane, repetitive anti NCFC propaganda. An interpretation of "fifth columnist" might be appropriate though......[:D][/quote]Whilst glancing at your pap, the word supercilious sprang to mind - again.But still, one love.OTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlyBlyBabes 0 Posted September 17, 2009 [quote user="Fernando Derveld"]Adjective: platitudinous `pla-ti''t(y)oo-d(u-)nus 1. Dull and tiresome but with pretensions of significance or originality "platitudinous sermons" - bromidic, corny, platitudinalSee also: platitude, unoriginal[/quote]Why read me then? Seems pretty daft.But at least I''m more optimistic than you are given your message board signature.Dear oh dear. OTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beauseant 0 Posted September 17, 2009 [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]Whilst glancing at your pap, the word supercilious sprang to mind - again.But still, one love.OTBC[/quote]Pap (pronounced /ˈpɑːp/), a traditional porridge made from mielie-meal (ground maize or other grain), is a staple food of the Bantu inhabitants of South Africa (the Afrikaans word pap is taken from Dutch and simply means "porridge" or "gruel"). Many traditional South African dishes include pap, such as smooth maize meal porridge (also called slap pap), and crumbly phutu pap. Such dishes are enjoyed primarily by the indigenous black population and the Afrikaner population, rather than those of English or South Asian descentFeeling peckish Bly? No need to sit there feeling hungry, you can have as much of my pap as you like[:D] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T 191 Posted September 17, 2009 [quote user="whoareyou"]The crunch comes in December 2010 when the next £2 million loan repayment is due. Unless DS & MWJ come up with the cash for that the club will go into administration and then will lose every penny they have put into the club. I suspect they may rather strangely find a buyer just before then.[/quote]or they may be hoping the property market recovers suffeciently by then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlyBlyBabes 0 Posted September 17, 2009 [quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"] Whilst glancing at your pap, the word supercilious sprang to mind - again.But still, one love.OTBC[/quote]Pap (pronounced /ˈpɑːp/), a traditional porridge made from mielie-meal (ground maize or other grain), is a staple food of the Bantu inhabitants of South Africa (the Afrikaans word pap is taken from Dutch and simply means "porridge" or "gruel"). Many traditional South African dishes include pap, such as smooth maize meal porridge (also called slap pap), and crumbly phutu pap. Such dishes are enjoyed primarily by the indigenous black population and the Afrikaner population, rather than those of English or South Asian descentFeeling peckish Bly? No need to sit there feeling hungry, you can have as much of my pap as you like[:D][/quote]I used to love porridge at school. But I''ve since given it up.Pity.OTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlyBlyBabes 0 Posted September 17, 2009 [quote user="lappinitup"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]Especially since if Cullum comes in for the shares at 1 pound each - same as Brum''s.[/quote]That would be a HUGE increase from his previous offer. Why do you think he would make an improved offer after saying he was no longer interested?[/quote]One thirtieth of thirty though. So HUGELY less than the clubs valuation as I recall.OTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted September 17, 2009 [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"][quote user="lappinitup"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]Especially since if Cullum comes in for the shares at 1 pound each - same as Brum''s.[/quote]That would be a HUGE increase from his previous offer. Why do you think he would make an improved offer after saying he was no longer interested?[/quote]One thirtieth of thirty though. So HUGELY less than the clubs valuation as I recall.OTBC[/quote]One small step for Bly or one giant leap for this message board. Reading this makes it a red letter day for me [:O] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlyBlyBabes 0 Posted September 17, 2009 [quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"] [quote user="lappinitup"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]Especially since if Cullum comes in for the shares at 1 pound each - same as Brum''s.[/quote]That would be a HUGE increase from his previous offer. Why do you think he would make an improved offer after saying he was no longer interested?[/quote]One thirtieth of thirty though. So HUGELY less than the clubs valuation as I recall.OTBC[/quote]One small step for Bly or one giant leap for this message board. Reading this makes it a red letter day for me [:O][/quote]Time passes, things change.What do you think would be a fair valuation of our shares in todays reduced circumstances?Don''t you think that a forced sale to stave off the ruins of administarion is an item high on the agenda for the next few months?And wasn''t the securitisation of that loan against the gate receipts...........OTBCOTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted September 17, 2009 [quote] Bly''s second favourite hobby after posting inane, repetitive anti NCFC propaganda. An interpretation of "fifth columnist" might be appropriate though .........[/quote]Filth columnist more like given the usual embittered binner drivel that spouts from this binboy.I suppose the best he can hope for is that we likewise defraud our local traders, make off with money owed to a charity and weasel out of paying the amounts due to the Inland Revenue.Bit like one of those benefit scroungers who having shacked up with some feckless liar and now think that everything is going to be ok from now on.Dream on scummer. Your clubs owns nothing yet still owes £30 million plus. Your ground belongs to some invisible asset stripper, your training ground belongs to the bank and your future belong somewhere just below Ronnie Biggs (mind you, dear old Ronnie only robbed a train - not his local suppliers, shareholders and charity workers) ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted September 17, 2009 [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"] [quote user="lappinitup"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]Especially since if Cullum comes in for the shares at 1 pound each - same as Brum''s.[/quote]That would be a HUGE increase from his previous offer. Why do you think he would make an improved offer after saying he was no longer interested?[/quote]One thirtieth of thirty though. So HUGELY less than the clubs valuation as I recall.OTBC[/quote]One small step for Bly or one giant leap for this message board. Reading this makes it a red letter day for me [:O][/quote]Time passes, things change.What do you think would be a fair valuation of our shares in todays reduced circumstances?Don''t you think that a forced sale to stave off the ruins of administarion is an item high on the agenda for the next few months?And wasn''t the securitisation of that loan against the gate receipts...........OTBCOTBC [/quote]I think personal shareholdings in monetary terms are worthless.I think the club valuation of their shares is the valuation of the club divided by the issued and unissued shares. I think the £30 was arrived at by this process at an AGM a couple of years ago. I guess if the book value of the club is less now they could do it again. I think they would have to if they were going to issue more shares. There are people on here who would know if that''s correct but I doubt they''d be as sad as me and open this box.The fact that for the first time ever you appeared to have recognised the difference between the clubs valuation and any personal valuation made it a red letter day for me. If you now admit that the club can state the shares are worth £30 each while Delia can state her personal shareholding is worthless I''ll do a cartwheel too[<:o)]I don''t believe the club is anywhere near going into administration to be honest. If you had made the loan would you force the issue in order to receive five pence of every pound or whatever the going rate would be?Now do you really thing Curo is capable of playing wide left and getting up and down the pitch accordingly? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 6,387 Posted September 17, 2009 [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]Especially since if Cullum comes in for the shares at 1 pound each - same as Brum''s.But will the last roll of the dice with McNally and Lambert start to pull those irons out of the fire in time? [/quote]I posted this on another thread, but no doubt Bly was too busy cookingup mixed metaphors ("But will the last roll of the dice with McNallyand Lambert start to pull those irons out of the fire in time?") tonotice.The comparison of £1 a share with £30 a share MIGHT be relevant ifNorwich City was a listed company. But it isn''t. So the comparison istotally irrelevant.The comparison that matters in the real world is between the respectivecosts of buying the two clubs - £16m at most for Norwich and the £81.5mat which Carson Yeung''s bid values Birmingham. Bly''s £1 a share values NCFC at £550,000. I doubt he will find many other supporters who think our club is worth only one-one hundred and sixtieth of Birmingham City.Indeed I suspect not many would think our club is worth only one-fifth of Birmingham, which is what you currently get with £1 a share for Birmingham and £30 a share for NCFC. Indeed, given that, far from cutting the price of her shares, Delia ought to beraising it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlyBlyBabes 0 Posted September 17, 2009 A no doubt ignorant question from a layman:How much are its shares worth if a company goes bankrupt?OTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlyBlyBabes 0 Posted September 17, 2009 [quote user="City1st"][quote] Bly''s second favourite hobby after posting inane, repetitive anti NCFC propaganda. An interpretation of "fifth columnist" might be appropriate though .........[/quote] Filth columnist more like given the usual embittered binner drivel that spouts from this binboy. I suppose the best he can hope for is that we likewise defraud our local traders, make off with money owed to a charity and weasel out of paying the amounts due to the Inland Revenue. Bit like one of those benefit scroungers who having shacked up with some feckless liar and now think that everything is going to be ok from now on. Dream on scummer. Your clubs owns nothing yet still owes £30 million plus. Your ground belongs to some invisible asset stripper, your training ground belongs to the bank and your future belong somewhere just below Ronnie Biggs (mind you, dear old Ronnie only robbed a train - not his local suppliers, shareholders and charity workers) ![/quote]Deary me. Poor chap.I''d take some Andrews if I were you.OTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lappinitup 629 Posted September 17, 2009 [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"][quote user="lappinitup"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]Especially since if Cullum comes in for the shares at 1 pound each - same as Brum''s.[/quote]That would be a HUGE increase from his previous offer. Why do you think he would make an improved offer after saying he was no longer interested?[/quote]One thirtieth of thirty though. So HUGELY less than the clubs valuation as I recall.[/quote]You weren''t talking about the clubs valuation though Bly, you suggested that Cullum may increase his offer from zero to £1 per share. I repeat the question, why do you think he would increase his previous offer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Fish Seller 0 Posted September 17, 2009 [quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]Especially since if Cullum comes in for the shares at 1 pound each - same as Brum''s.But will the last roll of the dice with McNally and Lambert start to pull those irons out of the fire in time? [/quote]I posted this on another thread, but no doubt Bly was too busy cookingup mixed metaphors ("But will the last roll of the dice with McNallyand Lambert start to pull those irons out of the fire in time?") tonotice.The comparison of £1 a share with £30 a share MIGHT be relevant ifNorwich City was a listed company. But it isn''t. So the comparison istotally irrelevant.The comparison that matters in the real world is between the respectivecosts of buying the two clubs - £16m at most for Norwich and the £81.5mat which Carson Yeung''s bid values Birmingham. Bly''s £1 a share values NCFC at £550,000. I doubt he will find many other supporters who think our club is worth only one-one hundred and sixtieth of Birmingham City.Indeed I suspect not many would think our club is worth only one-fifth of Birmingham, which is what you currently get with £1 a share for Birmingham and £30 a share for NCFC. Indeed, given that, far from cutting the price of her shares, Delia ought to beraising it...[/quote]Oh dear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 6,387 Posted September 17, 2009 [quote user="Buckethead"][quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]Especially since if Cullum comes in for the shares at 1 pound each - same as Brum''s.But will the last roll of the dice with McNally and Lambert start to pull those irons out of the fire in time? [/quote]I posted this on another thread, but no doubt Bly was too busy cookingup mixed metaphors ("But will the last roll of the dice with McNallyand Lambert start to pull those irons out of the fire in time?") tonotice.The comparison of £1 a share with £30 a share MIGHT be relevant ifNorwich City was a listed company. But it isn''t. So the comparison istotally irrelevant.The comparison that matters in the real world is between the respectivecosts of buying the two clubs - £16m at most for Norwich and the £81.5mat which Carson Yeung''s bid values Birmingham. Bly''s £1 a share values NCFC at £550,000. I doubt he will find many other supporters who think our club is worth only one-one hundred and sixtieth of Birmingham City.Indeed I suspect not many would think our club is worth only one-fifth of Birmingham, which is what you currently get with £1 a share for Birmingham and £30 a share for NCFC. Indeed, given that, far from cutting the price of her shares, Delia ought to beraising it...[/quote]Oh dear.[/quote]Buckethead, you do know that last sentence was an attempt (feeble, perhaps) at a joke? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Fish Seller 0 Posted September 17, 2009 [quote user="PurpleCanary"]Buckethead, you do know that last sentence was an attempt (feeble, perhaps) at a joke?[/quote]Phew, thank heavens for that; I always had you down as one of the more sensible posters on here.Now why don''t we suggest to (Webteam) Pete that he merges this thread and the ''testimonial'' thread, at least that way with a good turnout Delia and MWJ might get to leave the club with a bit of money once they''ve given their shares away for nothing.[;)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
William Darby 0 Posted September 17, 2009 [quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]A no doubt ignorant question from a layman:How much are its shares worth if a company goes bankrupt?OTBC [/quote]Rhymes with Duck Ball Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,572 Posted September 17, 2009 They are majority shareholders for one reason only.....Control. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites