how long till the ROEDER OUT chants start????

[city-till-i-die 7]

we are sitting just outside the relegation zone...not playing all that well....when will the chants for roeders head start????

imo think we have the players there just roeder isnt bringing the best out of them and as for the "we cant afford to get rid of him" ...total cr8p

if we are near the bottom by xmas do you think the board will stick with him...NO!!!

because im sure the fans wont stand for it....rant over(tin hat on)

[PhatCanary 0]

We need the board out first!!!

[lucky green trainers 0]

hopefully the delia out chants will be heard first,,,but i doubt it - most of the deadnecks around me are happy to suffer in silence,,,

[city-till-i-die 7]

cant believe the board out chants havnt started...do we have to get relegated for all those fans with thier heads up thier assres to take note???

[city-till-i-die 7]

<<<<heads up thier arses>>>>

[PhatCanary 0]

[quote user="city-till-i-die"]cant believe the board out chants havnt started...do we have to get relegated for all those fans with thier heads up thier assres to take note???[/quote]

Never gonna happen with all the sand people sitting in the stands, happy to sit back and watch Sh*t week in week out!!

BOARD OUT,BOARD OUT.

[alex_ncfc 686]

As much as I want Roeder out, I agree that the focus has to be on the board.

Think about it:

We start calling for Roeder to go, the board think "we have a card here and we can play it and get off the hook at the same time" - so they sack Roeder.

New boss comes in.

Typical new manager syndrome takes place and we win the first 2 or 3 games under his guidance comfortably.

Crowd forgive and forget board problems and will think promotion is a formality, if not this year then the next.

Performances dry up, we scrap around the bottom half of the table.

And repeat...

[city-till-i-die 7]

good point...board out & take roeder with you

if we do ever get investment/taken over hopefully the new owner/owners will want his/her own manager in

[PhatCanary 0]

[quote user="alex_ncfc"]

As much as I want Roeder out, I agree that the focus has to be on the board.

Think about it:

We start calling for Roeder to go, the board think "we have a card here and we can play it and get off the hook at the same time" - so they sack Roeder.

New boss comes in.

Typical new manager syndrome takes place and we win the first 2 or 3 games under his guidance comfortably.

Crowd forgive and forget board problems and will think promotion is a formality, if not this year then the next.

Performances dry up, we scrap around the bottom half of the table.

And repeat...

[/quote]

EXACTLY!! How most fans can''t seem to grasp the fact that Delia and the board have to go is beyond me.

[gazzathegreat 0]

Exactly Alex, but how long before there are enough supporters who not only find their voice, but are loud enough to be heard? I don''t know, if nothing comes from the AGM by way of progress in the investment talks (ongoing) then I think some sort of protests might just start up. Add this to the possibility of being trashed, at home, by our lovable local rivals and the words might just become action.

We can''t simply repeat sacking and hiring managers. We have suffered this for too long, it''s a quick fix, but as a result we just get worse every time. What is alarming me also, is the lowering of expectations.

Are we really satisfied with not only the standard of football we have seen for the past three years, but the prospects of being desperate enough to beat Preston, Burnley et al because our existence in this league depends on it.

Whatever we personally think of Mr Roeder, and the restraints he works under, he''s not the fundamental reason for our failure. He''s just the most obvious one.

[city-till-i-die 7]

[quote user="gazzathegreat"]Exactly Alex, but how long before there are enough supporters who not only find their voice, but are loud enough to be heard? I don''t know, if nothing comes from the AGM by way of progress in the investment talks (ongoing) then I think some sort of protests might just start up. Add this to the possibility of being trashed, at home, by our lovable local rivals and the words might just become action. We can''t simply repeat sacking and hiring managers. We have suffered this for too long, it''s a quick fix, but as a result we just get worse every time. What is alarming me also, is the lowering of expectations. Are we really satisfied with not only the standard of football we have seen for the past three years, but the prospects of being desperate enough to beat Preston, Burnley et al because our existence in this league depends on it. Whatever we personally think of Mr Roeder, and the restraints he works under, he''s not the fundamental reason for our failure. He''s just the most obvious one.[/quote]yes the board have to go...as i stated in my top post..the players we have are not the worst just think roeder is not getting the best out of them

[Mister Chops 7]

[quote user="city-till-i-die"]

we are sitting just outside the relegation zone...not playing all that well....when will the chants for roeders head start????

[/quote]Before those chants start, the first thing would be for the "Glenn Roeder''s yellow army" chants to stop.  I''m astonished people are still singing this.

[city-till-i-die 7]

[quote user="Mister Chops"][quote user="city-till-i-die"]

we are sitting just outside the relegation zone...not playing all that well....when will the chants for roeders head start????

[/quote]

Before those chants start, the first thing would be for the "Glenn Roeder''s yellow army" chants to stop.  I''m astonished people are still singing this.

[/quote]im not 1 of them!!!

[Blofield Canary 12]

The board of Norwich City and the Stowmarket 2 in particular will not be driven out by any chanting by a few fans. It really is quite simple. If you want the board out you have to buy them out.

Lets just imagine you get 23,000 people at a home game screaming "Delia Out". Do you think that will make any difference to her. She may be forced to stay away from the match but it will not bring any money into the club. In fact just the opposite. Drive her out with no new investment and she would be quite entitled to realise what assets she can. Fancy paying back the £2million she has just put into the club for starters? We can''t afford a weeks wages for Lita let alone paying her £2 million back. She walks an we are in administration within 24 hours.

The only way forward is to attrct new investment on a scale which is pretty unlikely. Cullum appears to be dead and buried. He had no real interest in buying in so lets hope there are others on the horizon.

Roeder is probably one manager so full of his own importance you could have 23,000 calling for his head and he would still think he wa a good manager. Remember we are just fans - he know best.

[nutty nigel 7,902]

[quote user="lucky green trainers"]hopefully the delia out chants will be heard first,,,

but i doubt it - most of the deadnecks around me are happy to suffer in silence,,,
[/quote]

Did you chant Lucky? Or were you an honoury deadneck for the afternoon.

This thread sums it up for me. Anti board, manager, players and fans surely must be anti club?

 

[Smudger 0]

I don''t know... but why don''t you try and start some if that is how you feel???

[WeAreYellows49 0]

[quote user="Mister Chops"][quote user="city-till-i-die"]

we are sitting just outside the relegation zone...not playing all that well....when will the chants for roeders head start????

[/quote]

Before those chants start, the first thing would be for the "Glenn Roeder''s yellow army" chants to stop.  I''m astonished people are still singing this.

[/quote]

 

Me too and I have to say that a lot of those chanting it were in the lower barclay nearest the away supporters, most of the ones who stand up.

We tried to get a Hucks chant going but were overtaken by the same people singing OTBC lol.

[Smudger 0]

[quote user="jbghost"]

The board of Norwich City and the Stowmarket 2 in particular will not be driven out by any chanting by a few fans. It really is quite simple. If you want the board out you have to buy them out.

Lets just imagine you get 23,000 people at a home game screaming "Delia Out". Do you think that will make any difference to her. She may be forced to stay away from the match but it will not bring any money into the club. In fact just the opposite. Drive her out with no new investment and she would be quite entitled to realise what assets she can. Fancy paying back the £2million she has just put into the club for starters? We can''t afford a weeks wages for Lita let alone paying her £2 million back. She walks an we are in administration within 24 hours.

The only way forward is to attrct new investment on a scale which is pretty unlikely. Cullum appears to be dead and buried. He had no real interest in buying in so lets hope there are others on the horizon.

Roeder is probably one manager so full of his own importance you could have 23,000 calling for his head and he would still think he wa a good manager. Remember we are just fans - he know best.

[/quote]

You really are that thick and stupid aren''t you???

If that many fans were screaming Delia Out for a few games running and she felt that she couldn''t attend Carrow Road then she would soon find a buyer.

She would run back to Cullum and start kissing his feet for starters!!!

[WeAreYellows49 0]

[quote user="Smudger"][quote user="jbghost"]

The board of Norwich City and the Stowmarket 2 in particular will not be driven out by any chanting by a few fans. It really is quite simple. If you want the board out you have to buy them out.

Lets just imagine you get 23,000 people at a home game screaming "Delia Out". Do you think that will make any difference to her. She may be forced to stay away from the match but it will not bring any money into the club. In fact just the opposite. Drive her out with no new investment and she would be quite entitled to realise what assets she can. Fancy paying back the £2million she has just put into the club for starters? We can''t afford a weeks wages for Lita let alone paying her £2 million back. She walks an we are in administration within 24 hours.

The only way forward is to attrct new investment on a scale which is pretty unlikely. Cullum appears to be dead and buried. He had no real interest in buying in so lets hope there are others on the horizon.

Roeder is probably one manager so full of his own importance you could have 23,000 calling for his head and he would still think he wa a good manager. Remember we are just fans - he know best.

[/quote]

You really are that thick and stupid aren''t you???

If that many fans were screaming Delia Out for a few games running and she felt that she couldn''t attend Carrow Road then she would soon find a buyer.

She would run back to Cullum and start kissing his feet for starters!!!

[/quote]

We''ve been here before with Chase, the fans might not be able to directly drive the board out, but the fans, as we all know can make life very uncomfortable for the board.

[Smudger 0]

[quote user="nutty nigel"]

[quote user="lucky green trainers"]hopefully the delia out chants will be heard first,,,

but i doubt it - most of the deadnecks around me are happy to suffer in silence,,,
[/quote]

Did you chant Lucky? Or were you an honoury deadneck for the afternoon.

This thread sums it up for me. Anti board, manager, players and fans surely must be anti club?

 

[/quote]

Where as that GREAT CLUB MAN Nutty, could not be bothered to find the time to attend last weeks meeting in a local Norwich pub, which many concerned fans with all manner of ideas about what the club should do about it''s current problems attended.

Maybe it was because you didn''t have the balls to attend knowing that you would be in the minority Nutty???

We do after all know that you care and that you took the time to send Mr Tilson an email.

So why did you not attend?

Do you not have the balls to tell us all what you think of us to our faces?

We would of not strung you up from the nearest rafters you know???

There were even one or two there which you may have shared a great deal in common with.

[Blofield Canary 12]

Thanks for your constructive comment. When it comes to being thick and stupid I believe over the years you have proven beyond any doubt you hold the undisputed title of being the thickest and most stupid poster, not just on this board, but all NCFC boards

When you can construct an argument without insults people may start to take notice of what you post.

[city-till-i-die 7]

how did the meet up go? and what was discussed?

[nutty nigel 7,902]

[quote user="Smudger"]

Where as that GREAT CLUB MAN Nutty, could not be bothered to find the time to attend last weeks meeting in a local Norwich pub, which many concerned fans with all manner of ideas about what the club should do about it''s current problems attended.

Maybe it was because you didn''t have the balls to attend knowing that you would be in the minority Nutty???

We do after all know that you care and that you took the time to send Mr Tilson an email.

So why did you not attend?

Do you not have the balls to tell us all what you think of us to our faces?

We would of not strung you up from the nearest rafters you know???

There were even one or two there which you may have shared a great deal in common with.

[/quote]

The reason why I wasn''t there was in the email that I sent. Obviously it wasn''t read out as was said on the thread. Maybe if I''d have written an email that fitted your agenda it would have been read out being as these meetings seem now to be held in your honour. So were other emails read? In actual fact I believe now that it was a waste of time sending that email. You and those that ''cosy up'' to you can stick your meetings where the sun don''t shine [:|]

 

[First Wizard 0]

[quote user="gazzathegreat"]Exactly Alex, but how long before there are enough supporters who not only find their voice, but are loud enough to be heard? I don''t know, if nothing comes from the AGM by way of progress in the investment talks (ongoing) then I think some sort of protests might just start up. Add this to the possibility of being trashed, at home, by our lovable local rivals and the words might just become action. We can''t simply repeat sacking and hiring managers. We have suffered this for too long, it''s a quick fix, but as a result we just get worse every time. What is alarming me also, is the lowering of expectations. Are we really satisfied with not only the standard of football we have seen for the past three years, but the prospects of being desperate enough to beat Preston, Burnley et al because our existence in this league depends on it. Whatever we personally think of Mr Roeder, and the restraints he works under, he''s not the fundamental reason for our failure. He''s just the most obvious one.[/quote]Its called apathy Gazza.

Had this been the days of Chase, there would have been a multitude outside the ground protesting. I myself at Crimbo time, were due to spend a three figure sum on City mechandise for presents.

Not now......duck em!

[pete_norw 0]

[quote user="city-till-i-die"]

we are sitting just outside the relegation zone...not playing all that well....when will the chants for roeders head start????

imo think we have the players there just roeder isnt bringing the best out of them and as for the "we cant afford to get rid of him" ...total cr8p

if we are near the bottom by xmas do you think the board will stick with him...NO!!!

because im sure the fans wont stand for it....rant over(tin hat on)

[/quote]

In about 10 years when we get beat at home by Tamworth Utd

[Mook 0]

Why don''t some of YOU start the chants then? Perhaps there is a lot of people at the ground feeling the same way? Perhaps if any of you had the BALLS to speak up in public, rather than bleating on here about "Delia has to go", you''d soon find that you had 5 or 10,000 people singing the same chants?

I''m not criticising your viewpoints. I just find it hilarious that you can call everyone else apathetic, or "satisfied to watch crap" but none of you have the guts to stand up at the ground and let it be known.

I''m not going to do it, because I don''t have the guts. But then I don''t post on here, whinging about it 24/7. I think that''s a fair call. What I''m basically saying (which is pointless I suppose, cos you can do or say what you like) is - put up or shut up. Try it, and see what happens. If it''s that bad, do something about it.

[lucky green trainers 0]

[quote user="nutty nigel"]

[quote user="lucky green trainers"]hopefully the delia out chants will be heard first,,,but i doubt it - most of the deadnecks around me are happy to suffer in silence,,,[/quote]

Did you chant Lucky? Or were you an honoury deadneck for the afternoon.

This thread sums it up for me. Anti board, manager, players and fans surely must be anti club?

 

[/quote]you are perfectly entitled to believe anything you like nutty - but obviously i was attempting to explain that (imo) before poor ole roedy is condemned to a hanging by the crowd, then maybe our under performing board should at least share in their vitriol, or even be first onto the scaffold,,,my last comment also attempts to explain that (imo) due to evolutionary and environmental conditioning, people generally stick together and support the status quo - because its perceived that there is safety in numbers///else there would be continual revolution and chaos in human societies,,,profer it how you like nutty, but i don''t know of many people who are happy with the board of directors and wouldn''t welcome a change - myself included...but maybe you move in different circles,,,equally, given human nature, i would also be amazed if any single person (myself included) would choose to stand up in a crowd and shout ''delia out'' etc at this point in time??? the writing has been on the wall for a long time in my view, but no-one dare say the words just yet ---indeed, none of the deadnecks around me had the decency to welcome hux back - who had been a fabulous servant of the club,,,why is that???...becuase its not officially sanctioned by the club???i see lita was paraded before the start in recognition of his loan extension - so why wasn''t hux paraded at half time say???i''m certain, if officially organised by the club - the whole ground would have cheered hucks - maybe even yourself,,,but its to the eternal shame of the club - that the majority stayed silent - no one threw the fish so the seals wouldn''t clap??? but imo the current economic conditions are concentrating the minds of many - disposable incomes have dropped by 25% in the last 2 years - and imo people will be seriously asking the question - should i renew my season ticket this time around???we shall see where people stand come early feb...but obviously, people like these, or the couple who left the ground at half time on saturday, saying they were not renewing are patently anti-club??? 

[nutty nigel 7,902]

Lucky - I agree with some of the points you make - but you didn''t make them on the earlier post did you? I was replying to your comments that "most of the deadnecks around you are happy to suffer in silence." Now to be fair these comments about fellow fans have become so widespread on here that one fans "deadneck" is quite possibly that same deadnecks sheep".

On this thread alone fans accuse fellow fans of being "deadnecks" along with other comments on this thread about fellow fans with "heads up their arses" and fellow fans "being happy to sit back and watch sh*t week in week out" and even the more restrained criticisms about "how long before there are enough supporters who not only find their voices but are loud enough to be heard" or "being astonished by fans still singing Glen Roeders yellow army" are just examples of where some of you on this thread must be criticising others on this thread.

And there''s so many examples just lately on this message board of fans criticisng others for not doing something which they in turn don''t do themselves that in some cases you surely must be talking about eachother.

The anti-club comment was clearly not aimed at you but at those posters who clearly state that they are anti board, manager, coaches, players and fans. The logical conclusion to this is, as you say, they will go away until there''s a club they can identify with. I guess every fan has their own breaking point but why do they find it neccessary to pick fights with other fans first.

 

[The Great Wall Of Tettey 0]

nothings going to happen if roeder goes out.

what is a new manager going to do with no funds ? send the loans back and get some different ones ?

were far off being the best side in the championship, and were not going to go anywhere for a few seasons, its a bleak look at things, but its the truth.

unless funds come in, then nothing will ever happen.

people have  got to understand this and that it takes time, being impatient isnt going to help.

[city-till-i-die 7]

[quote user="nutty nigel"]

Lucky - I agree with some of the points you make - but you didn''t make them on the earlier post did you? I was replying to your comments that "most of the deadnecks around you are happy to suffer in silence." Now to be fair these comments about fellow fans have become so widespread on here that one fans "deadneck" is quite possibly that same deadnecks sheep".

On this thread alone fans accuse fellow fans of being "deadnecks" along with other comments on this thread about fellow fans with "heads up their arses" and fellow fans "being happy to sit back and watch sh*t week in week out" and even the more restrained criticisms about "how long before there are enough supporters who not only find their voices but are loud enough to be heard" or "being astonished by fans still singing Glen Roeders yellow army" are just examples of where some of you on this thread must be criticising others on this thread.

And there''s so many examples just lately on this message board of fans criticisng others for not doing something which they in turn don''t do themselves that in some cases you surely must be talking about eachother.

The anti-club comment was clearly not aimed at you but at those posters who clearly state that they are anti board, manager, coaches, players and fans. The logical conclusion to this is, as you say, they will go away until there''s a club they can identify with. I guess every fan has their own breaking point but why do they find it neccessary to pick fights with other fans first.

 

[/quote]well lets get together and sound our voices in/outside CR next home game!!! how many fans do you think will turn up??? im asuming not many as they live with thier heads in the sand/up thier arses and are happy to sit and watch our club sink...im not getting at other fans but if they are true supporters how much longer will they let this go????