jetstream 0 Posted August 12, 2008 Sorry it annoys you "can''tbelieveI''mhere".I do make a point of watching Fozzy during home games. During the recent Spurs game I counted off 8 ''good'' things he did to 6 ''bad'' things he did.Mind you, this was an exception as the cons usually outweigh the pros. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lincs CR 0 Posted August 12, 2008 I for sure wouldn''t! Clingan has scored his career goals from free kicks and was praised for his dead ball greatness!I would rather see Cligan and russell in midfield, the reasons why?Clingan will produce balls to the wingers a lot, rather than to the full backs that Fotheringham often does. He can also tackle, rarely gives the ball away and looks composed. He can take a mean free kick based on his career so far, meaning he must be able to take corners that beat the first man every time at least :) He also takes shots based on pre-season performances and the two games so far, which Fozzy really doesn''t do much at all!Russell is the hustle and bustle player, he gets forward, shoots and can also score about 5 or 6 a season which may prove to be very important goals. He attacks, defends, wins tackles and generally plays very well every game.I say give it a try at least... it''s gone on too long that Mark is the first name on the team sheet every week Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cantbelieveImhere 0 Posted August 13, 2008 I.Shurmer surely last season from the point Roeder arrived 17th was nearly a godsend (or maybe Godsend not sure if it deserves a capital- the whole supreme being/ creator theory seems a bit wishy washy to me). Fozzy was a big part of that*** (maybe lets all learn little more about the whole football thing and call it quits!).*** Last season I mean not creation generallyHowever, do like the look of Clingan too (maybe a few more goals in him than Fozzy?). He and Fozzy are both midfield sitters so perhaps competing for the same place in the long term, I don''t see GR as being too worried about dropping anybody if somebody else is more deserving of the shirt captain or not, so am still very much looking forward to the rest of the season! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJP 79 Posted August 13, 2008 I''ve never been quite sure what to make of Fozzie since he''s been here but I''m starting to view him as a player who is busy doing nothing.Always looks like he''s working hard and talking a lot but does he actually do enough with it? Not sure.I''d like Roeder to have a look at Rusty and Clingan in the middle. But with Fozzie being his choice for captain I think he''ll be reluctant to drop him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silver fox 0 Posted August 13, 2008 It is pleasing to see that the majority of posters agree that Fotheringham is not the inspirational team captain we really need. Unfortunately I think Roeder is the sort of manager who will stick by his decision, and unless Fotheringham is suspended through bookings, or injured in training, we can expect to see him starting every game as captain all. If this is the case, then perhaps Roeder will let someone else take some of the free kicks and corners. I don''t doubt Fotheringhams commitment to the team, and the fact he gives 100%, but you need more than just that from your captain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FilletTheFishWife . 0 Posted August 13, 2008 [quote user="silver fox"]When you are going through a bad patch players tend to look to their captain for inspiration, and in Fotheringham we have one of the poorest I have seen at Norwich for years. How many more times do we have to listen to commentators say '' Fotheringham has given it away again'' or ''another poor free kick / corner by Fotheringham''. Glen Roeder should consider making Kennedy / Stefanovich or even Clingan captain, and then at least we will have a player who would lead by example. Thankfully Fotheringham has only been given a one year contract, and then he can go back to Scotland.[/quote] My thoughts entirely/ Last night we needed a leader on the pitch to up the performance levels. Sadly, Fozzy shirked his responsibilities as a captain and a player. For most of the game he was anonymous . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mason 47 1,382 Posted August 13, 2008 I think Fozzy is a good player to have when its going well; he does seem to be very good at passing it to Stefanovic and whoever we have at leftback. This would be a good thing to have AFTER we have made our mark in the game and got a few goals, but when chasing a lead or trying to build one in the first place it isnt an ideal trait. One thing about Fozzy is he doesnt have the stature or strength- he doesnt have the attacking power, in other words. He doesnt have too much pace, being smaller he isnt that robust and his shooting lacks a certain va-va-voom to be played alongside Clingan who is defensive whatever way you swing it. I think he does both the jobs that Russel and Clingan do respectively, but he doesnt do them anywhere near as well as the individuals can.With the arrival of a specialist defensive midfielder, Russel (who drives forward with and without the ball as often as he can) will have more attacking freedom than last year and showed against Colchester how well that can work. My centre-mid choice has to be Clingan and Russel, Fozzy to come on if we need to hold the game,As for the captain, I would be fully behind Clingan who knows how to arrange the midfield and doesnt half do it loudly, Russel for obvious reasons or Stefanovic due to his experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thecanaryfan 0 Posted August 13, 2008 I liked Fozzy until a certain point. After we had conceded the third at Hillsborough last season he was hands on hips, shaking his head, huffing and puffing like a child. Hardly a picture of inspiration. I would give JC captaincy until further notice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 1,130 Posted August 13, 2008 I still think Fotheringham is a good squad player, can''tbelievei''mhere, but I''m basically agreeing with you - I''m not sure he''s an ideal captain.Either way, I''m certainly still looking forward to the rest of this season. Clearly, it all hinges on whether Glen can get in a big striker for JC/AL to play off... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrightyBoy 0 Posted August 13, 2008 He was awful lastnight!! Rusty is sooo much better!! Nice to see we all seem to agree on something for once... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Bump 0 Posted August 13, 2008 Used to be a sqaud player for us and that''s what he should be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Boy 0 Posted August 13, 2008 Fozzy isn''t as good as he thinks he is. I was rather hoping he wouldn''t sign his 1-year contract. He should be dropped, but how many managers drop the man they''ve made captain? He fades away at crucial times, and we''ve had too many midfielders that do that in recent seasons - Mulryne, Francis, Etuhu, Robinson, Safri - the list is frightening - and I was hoping Roeder would have stopped that by now. He allowed it to happen at MK, and against Cov, Col U and Spurs to some extent. I said before the MK game that Russell and Clingan should be the CM pair, and I stick by that. Russell isn''t a saint, but he''s got more about him than Fozzy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jim blair 0 Posted August 13, 2008 HURRAH..at last others are seeing through our captain..hope Mr Roeder manages it before the weekend Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 4,385 Posted August 13, 2008 Haven''t seen him this season, and am perfectly willing to believe that he was rubbish last night, but I thought he was excellent for us last season, probably the single most important reason why we stayed up. Towards the end of the season I posted some stats about our results with him in the team and without him: can''t be bothered to look them up now, but the upshot was that when Russell and Fozzy played together, we tended to win. Certainly the stats supported my perception that with him in the team, we kept the ball better and consequently were under much less pressure. I thought his leadership in the crucial games towards the end of the season, espectially Burnley (h) was outstanding.The arrival of Clingan confuses things, it seems to me. If Clingan andd Fozzy play together, then we have two midfielders who like to sit quite deep - which might explain why people are calling for Russell to replace Fozzy. All the more reason to give this new-look side a few games to gel without getting on their backs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pudd 1 Posted August 13, 2008 Fotheringham has never been excellent for us. At his best he is mediocre.Getting stuck in is only good if it''s effective. Fizzy is a headless chicken, perhaps the best of a bad bunch last year, but if this is truely the direction roeder wants our leader to take us, then I''m concerned. Really starting to doubts about his management - seemed to cluthibg at straws yesterday.... And was happy with the number of chances we created againgst mk dons?Really? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barclay seats 4849 0 Posted August 13, 2008 [quote user="ncfcstar"]I say give it to Koroma ;) Seriously though I don''t agree, Fozzy might not be the greatest player, but he at least gets stuck in, which is what we need in a captain in this league. Who else would be better for the job in all seriousness?[/quote]If you are to be captain for getting "stuck in " then surely it has to be Rusty..................Fotheringham is not nearly good enough to play , let alone be Captain...........IMO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites