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We must be the only club  in the land that gets mega rich investors worth £275 million onto our board who don''t actually invest anything into the club!

If Taylor goes to west brom for the sake of £250,000 which is less than 0.1% of thier fortune and they sit there and do nothing i say they are not city fans!

I can forgive delia for being a bit careful with her paltry £20 million but the turners have no excuse, if i had a mere 2 million i''d walk to birmmingham with the £250,000 to get taylor in!

 

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He wont sign for brom hes made it quite clear that he want to sign for norwich.. end of

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If Taylor signs for West Brom blame Glenn Roeder.  It''s his budget which he agreed when he took the job, and his valuation of a 29 year old player who will be out of contract in the summer.  It''s more than abuot just Taylor - as Roeder has said, he needs to spread the money out to bring in as many new faces as possible.

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by all accounts what iv heard on hear its down to roeder and not the board for financing the deal for taylor

i know its annoying, but norwich will end up with him on 30th-31st jan, wba arent intrested

if you wish to read several threads on hear over last few days about taylor you would have found my answer

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[quote user="Say Hello To The Angels"]

We must be the only club  in the land that gets mega rich investors worth £275 million onto our board who don''t actually invest anything into the club!

If Taylor goes to west brom for the sake of £250,000 which is less than 0.1% of thier fortune and they sit there and do nothing i say they are not city fans!

I can forgive delia for being a bit careful with her paltry £20 million but the turners have no excuse, if i had a mere 2 million i''d walk to birmmingham with the £250,000 to get taylor in!

 

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You have no idea.

Being worth 200 odd million and being able to get your hands on 200 odd million is two completely different things.

FFS get real people.

The world doesnt start and stop with taylor you know.

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When the Turners first arrived I was full of hope and looked forward move towards the Premier league, But it seems that they are only here for the ride on the EGO roundabout, and it must look good on thier company headed news letter as Joint Director''s of Norwich City,But I fail to see how a life long fan with the wealth that they have can sit back and do nothing to bring in players to get us promoted. you can''t tell me that the new owners of Man U LIVERPOOL QPR LEICESTER AND EVEN CHELSKI are life long fans of that club,they are nothing more than just big time investors, perhaps the Turners have got the wronge Idea, because they are not Fans of our clubLightning [li]

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[quote user="the1englishman"][quote user="Say Hello To The Angels"]

We must be the only club  in the land that gets mega rich investors worth £275 million onto our board who don''t actually invest anything into the club!

If Taylor goes to west brom for the sake of £250,000 which is less than 0.1% of thier fortune and they sit there and do nothing i say they are not city fans!

I can forgive delia for being a bit careful with her paltry £20 million but the turners have no excuse, if i had a mere 2 million i''d walk to birmmingham with the £250,000 to get taylor in!

 

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You have no idea.

Being worth 200 odd million and being able to get your hands on 200 odd million is two completely different things.

[/quote]

Particularly when that money has been raised from debt consolidation loans, and the current financial markets (and debt consolidation in particular) is looking remarkably ropey.

 

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if tiny dont sign it will be down to brady & doomcaster . who are both playing mind games . brady who is hoping a club will match the £1 .2 millon  & doomcaster who wont let glen go over £800.000 for tiny . it a fact . this will go down to 11.50 pm on dead line day.  respects on the ball city

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[quote user="the1englishman"][quote user="Say Hello To The Angels"]

We must be the only club  in the land that gets mega rich investors worth £275 million onto our board who don''t actually invest anything into the club!

If Taylor goes to west brom for the sake of £250,000 which is less than 0.1% of thier fortune and they sit there and do nothing i say they are not city fans!

I can forgive delia for being a bit careful with her paltry £20 million but the turners have no excuse, if i had a mere 2 million i''d walk to birmmingham with the £250,000 to get taylor in!

 

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You have no idea.

Being worth 200 odd million and being able to get your hands on 200 odd million is two completely different things.

FFS get real people.

The world doesnt start and stop with taylor you know.

[/quote]

Yes, agreed, but, have you ever heard of securing a loan against your assets???.

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[quote user="uncle joe"]if tiny dont sign it will be down to brady & doomcaster . who are both playing mind games . brady who is hoping a club will match the £1 .2 millon  & doomcaster who wont let glen go over £800.000 for tiny . it a fact . this will go down to 11.50 pm on dead line day.  respects on the ball city[/quote]

It is not a fact because you have no proof. Now can you please tell us all where it has been stated that Doncaster will not let Roeder spend more than £800,000 on Taylor?

 

I am getting really fed up with the lies and slander on this Forum.......

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Yes, agreed, but, have you ever heard of securing a loan against your assets???.Are you seriously suggesting they take out a loan to buy a player? Why

don''t you re-mortgage your house to help cover the shortfall then? You

are after all a life long fan? But its far easier spending other people''s money, isn''t it?

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[quote user="Dexx"]He wont sign for brom hes made it quite clear that he want to sign for norwich.. end of[/quote]

 

tht means nothing...Up rooting the family an moving to the other end of the country or signing for a team in the same city, no moving, children stay settled at the same schools, no haveing to buy a new house or live out of a hotel for a few months.. no commuting,

 he wont sign for us...

 If he really wanted to he''d be here by now... like i have been saying for the past 4 weeks.. he didnt say "I''ll only sign for Norwich" he made a plea to other clubs to go and sign him for Birmingham.. find me where he said he would ONLY sign for us.

 

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[quote user="the1englishman"][quote user="Say Hello To The Angels"]

We must be the only club  in the land that gets mega rich investors worth £275 million onto our board who don''t actually invest anything into the club!

If Taylor goes to west brom for the sake of £250,000 which is less than 0.1% of thier fortune and they sit there and do nothing i say they are not city fans!

I can forgive delia for being a bit careful with her paltry £20 million but the turners have no excuse, if i had a mere 2 million i''d walk to birmmingham with the £250,000 to get taylor in!

 

[/quote]

 

You have no idea.

Being worth 200 odd million and being able to get your hands on 200 odd million is two completely different things.

FFS get real people.

The world doesnt start and stop with taylor you know.

[/quote]

who''s asking for 200 million? I was wondering how they can sit there and watch a player we clearly need go to a rival club when he''d rather come here for the sake of £250,000

i don''t mind if we don''t sign taylor specifically but i''d like somebody equally as good if he doesn''t sign.

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[quote user="Say Hello To The Angels"]

I was wondering how they can sit there and watch a player we clearly need go to a rival club when he''d rather come here for the sake of £250,000

[/quote]Because Glenn Roeder, our manager, has given his recommendation to the board (inludes the Turners who, have very generously invested TWO MILLION POUNDS of theoir own money (well....via a company) that we should NOT bid more than a certain amount for Taylor. Fot the last time, Its Roeders decision.I feel quite sad for you rich people who dismiss £250,000 as a pawltry amount. You should be ashamed.

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[quote user="Attack Barclay 2nd Half FFS"][quote user="Say Hello To The Angels"]

I was wondering how they can sit there and watch a player we clearly need go to a rival club when he''d rather come here for the sake of £250,000


[/quote]

Because Glenn Roeder, our manager, has given his recommendation to the board (inludes the Turners who, have very generously invested TWO MILLION POUNDS of theoir own money (well....via a company) that we should NOT bid more than a certain amount for Taylor.

Fot the last time, Its Roeders decision.

I feel quite sad for you rich people who dismiss £250,000 as a pawltry amount. You should be ashamed.
[/quote]

I''m not rich i earn barely more than minimum wage, however the turners are rich to them it''s peanuts it''s the equivalent of me investing £2.50 in ncfc!

Even if it''s roeders decision i still feel if they won''t contribute any hard cash they should bugger off and we can get somebody in who will.

RE: the 2 million, it''s a loan! if i wander down to carrow road and offer delia a £2.50 loan does that make me generous? cos it''s the same thing.

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[quote user="Say Hello To The Angels"][quote user="the1englishman"][quote user="Say Hello To The Angels"]

We must be the only club  in the land that gets mega rich investors worth £275 million onto our board who don''t actually invest anything into the club!

If Taylor goes to west brom for the sake of £250,000 which is less than 0.1% of thier fortune and they sit there and do nothing i say they are not city fans!

I can forgive delia for being a bit careful with her paltry £20 million but the turners have no excuse, if i had a mere 2 million i''d walk to birmmingham with the £250,000 to get taylor in!

 

[/quote]

 

You have no idea.

Being worth 200 odd million and being able to get your hands on 200 odd million is two completely different things.

FFS get real people.

The world doesnt start and stop with taylor you know.

[/quote]

who''s asking for 200 million? I was wondering how they can sit there and watch a player we clearly need go to a rival club when he''d rather come here for the sake of £250,000

i don''t mind if we don''t sign taylor specifically but i''d like somebody equally as good if he doesn''t sign.

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Just imagine we have a deal with taylor himself, who is a free agent in the summer, what would you do if you were on the board, and knew  A: get him free in the summer, or B: wait till Birmingham have no choice but to sell on our terms at the end of the window, or risk loosing out by paying his wages for the rest of the season, and then he swans off for free in the summer.

Sorry, but iam glad people like you are not running the club.

Its a no brainer.

And i think the scenareo i have mentioned above is just about spot on.

Just wait and see.

And even if it all goes tits up, defence is not our problem, scoring goals is.

 

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[quote user="Say Hello To The Angels"][quote user="Attack Barclay 2nd Half FFS"][quote user="Say Hello To The Angels"]

I was wondering how they can sit there and watch a player we clearly need go to a rival club when he''d rather come here for the sake of £250,000

[/quote]Because Glenn Roeder, our manager, has given his recommendation to the board (inludes the Turners who, have very generously invested TWO MILLION POUNDS of theoir own money (well....via a company) that we should NOT bid more than a certain amount for Taylor. Fot the last time, Its Roeders decision.I feel quite sad for you rich people who dismiss £250,000 as a pawltry amount. You should be ashamed.[/quote]

I''m not rich i earn barely more than minimum wage, however the turners are rich to them it''s peanuts it''s the equivalent of me investing £2.50 in ncfc!

Even if it''s roeders decision i still feel if they won''t contribute any hard cash they should bugger off and we can get somebody in who will.

RE: the 2 million, it''s a loan! if i wander down to carrow road and offer delia a £2.50 loan does that make me generous? cos it''s the same thing.

[/quote]I think you need to have a word with your boss, you are earning less than minimum wage. Either that or you need to check your maths...

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[quote user="the1englishman"][quote user="Say Hello To The Angels"][quote user="the1englishman"][quote user="Say Hello To The Angels"]

We must be the only club  in the land that gets mega rich investors worth £275 million onto our board who don''t actually invest anything into the club!

If Taylor goes to west brom for the sake of £250,000 which is less than 0.1% of thier fortune and they sit there and do nothing i say they are not city fans!

I can forgive delia for being a bit careful with her paltry £20 million but the turners have no excuse, if i had a mere 2 million i''d walk to birmmingham with the £250,000 to get taylor in!

 

[/quote]

 

You have no idea.

Being worth 200 odd million and being able to get your hands on 200 odd million is two completely different things.

FFS get real people.

The world doesnt start and stop with taylor you know.

[/quote]

who''s asking for 200 million? I was wondering how they can sit there and watch a player we clearly need go to a rival club when he''d rather come here for the sake of £250,000

i don''t mind if we don''t sign taylor specifically but i''d like somebody equally as good if he doesn''t sign.

[/quote]

 

Just imagine we have a deal with taylor himself, who is a free agent in the summer, what would you do if you were on the board, and knew  A: get him free in the summer, or B: wait till Birmingham have no choice but to sell on our terms at the end of the window, or risk loosing out by paying his wages for the rest of the season, and then he swans off for free in the summer.

Sorry, but iam glad people like you are not running the club.

Its a no brainer.

And i think the scenareo i have mentioned above is just about spot on.

Just wait and see.

And even if it all goes tits up, defence is not our problem, scoring goals is.

 

[/quote]

So is getting relegated for not signing him.

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[quote user="Big Down Under"][quote user="Say Hello To The Angels"][quote user="Attack Barclay 2nd Half FFS"][quote user="Say Hello To The Angels"]

I was wondering how they can sit there and watch a player we clearly need go to a rival club when he''d rather come here for the sake of £250,000


[/quote]

Because Glenn Roeder, our manager, has given his recommendation to the board (inludes the Turners who, have very generously invested TWO MILLION POUNDS of theoir own money (well....via a company) that we should NOT bid more than a certain amount for Taylor.

Fot the last time, Its Roeders decision.

I feel quite sad for you rich people who dismiss £250,000 as a pawltry amount. You should be ashamed.
[/quote]

I''m not rich i earn barely more than minimum wage, however the turners are rich to them it''s peanuts it''s the equivalent of me investing £2.50 in ncfc!

Even if it''s roeders decision i still feel if they won''t contribute any hard cash they should bugger off and we can get somebody in who will.

RE: the 2 million, it''s a loan! if i wander down to carrow road and offer delia a £2.50 loan does that make me generous? cos it''s the same thing.

[/quote]

I think you need to have a word with your boss, you are earning less than minimum wage. Either that or you need to check your maths...
[/quote]

are you serious i didn''t actually sit here and figure out the exact equivalent based on what i earn annually  was just trying to make a point but if it''s that important it''s the equivalent of me loaning city £13.52 doesn''t really change my point does it?

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Do you really think taylor is the difference between getting relegated or not ??

Dont talk so daft, yes he was good for our club, but he alone wont make a geat difference, getting a million pound striker just might though.

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RE: the 2 million, it''s a loan!

[/quote]ALl loans were offered at interest free return. To my knowledge most of the loans have been converted to shares. Shares go down as well as up. Football is not the place to in vest money if you''re looking to make money in 99% of cases. people do it for a different reason.

[quote user="Say Hello To The Angels"]

Even if it''s roeders decision i still feel if they won''t contribute

any hard cash they should bugger off and we can get somebody in who

will.

[/quote]

Hard cash? What do you call £2,000,000? They do they but you want them

to bugger off?  ".....we can get somebody in who will...." Who? Tell me

I''d love to hear you come back on this. If anyone was interested they

would have already bouight the shares recently offered. Nobody did.

Nobody. Not one single bid came in. So do elighten me who this somebody

is thats hanging around in Carrow Road with a load of hard cash.

[quote user="Say Hello To The Angels"]

I''m not rich i earn barely

more than minimum wage, however the turners are rich to them it''s

peanuts it''s the equivalent of me investing £2.50 in ncfc!

[/quote]

Your attitude disgusts me. £250,000 isn''t peanuts to anyone, how dare

you put yourself in somebody elses place and make judgements on values

on their behalf. I bet you haven''t give the club a cheque for your

£2.50....even though your logic suggests your worldly assetts total

about £150. You need a new job......though I suspect the level of your responses suggests you''ve just started your first one. Home your employer doesn''t read this

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"ALL loans were offered at interest free return. To my knowledge most of the loans have been converted to shares."

Delia''s loans have been converted to shares but I''m not sure the loan from the Turners has.

The ''Turner'' loan is actually a loan from their company and is interest free - repayable only under certain conditions: in 2012 (I think) or if we get promoted to the Prem, or if Delia/MWJ share-holding drops below a certain percentage (see last annual report).

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Why haven''t West Brom paid the full amount for Taylor yet ffs? We all know that Birmingham couldn''t possibly create any spin themselves, it only happens at Norwich. I''m disgusted West Brom haven''t met the asking price and bought him yet...Have they no ambition???????.

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[quote user="Say Hello To The Angels"][quote user="Big Down Under"][quote user="Say Hello To The Angels"][quote user="Attack Barclay 2nd Half FFS"][quote user="Say Hello To The Angels"]

I was wondering how they can sit there and watch a player we clearly need go to a rival club when he''d rather come here for the sake of £250,000

[/quote]Because Glenn Roeder, our manager, has given his recommendation to the board (inludes the Turners who, have very generously invested TWO MILLION POUNDS of theoir own money (well....via a company) that we should NOT bid more than a certain amount for Taylor. Fot the last time, Its Roeders decision.I feel quite sad for you rich people who dismiss £250,000 as a pawltry amount. You should be ashamed.[/quote]

I''m not rich i earn barely more than minimum wage, however the turners are rich to them it''s peanuts it''s the equivalent of me investing £2.50 in ncfc!

Even if it''s roeders decision i still feel if they won''t contribute any hard cash they should bugger off and we can get somebody in who will.

RE: the 2 million, it''s a loan! if i wander down to carrow road and offer delia a £2.50 loan does that make me generous? cos it''s the same thing.

[/quote]I think you need to have a word with your boss, you are earning less than minimum wage. Either that or you need to check your maths...[/quote]

are you serious i didn''t actually sit here and figure out the exact equivalent based on what i earn annually  was just trying to make a point but if it''s that important it''s the equivalent of me loaning city £13.52 doesn''t really change my point does it?

[/quote]I didn''t think you had worked it out at all. On an average wage its more like £200, and thats based on 1 years earnings and ignoring taking into account your assets. You base your whole point on extremely inaccurate figures, which makes your point worthless. The fact that you also have no understanding of the nature of these types of loans also means you should really keep quiet, you are just embarassing yourself.

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[quote user="Big Down Under"][quote user="Say Hello To The Angels"][quote user="Big Down Under"][quote user="Say Hello To The Angels"][quote user="Attack Barclay 2nd Half FFS"][quote user="Say Hello To The Angels"]

I was wondering how they can sit there and watch a player we clearly need go to a rival club when he''d rather come here for the sake of £250,000


[/quote]

Because Glenn Roeder, our manager, has given his recommendation to the board (inludes the Turners who, have very generously invested TWO MILLION POUNDS of theoir own money (well....via a company) that we should NOT bid more than a certain amount for Taylor.

Fot the last time, Its Roeders decision.

I feel quite sad for you rich people who dismiss £250,000 as a pawltry amount. You should be ashamed.
[/quote]

I''m not rich i earn barely more than minimum wage, however the turners are rich to them it''s peanuts it''s the equivalent of me investing £2.50 in ncfc!

Even if it''s roeders decision i still feel if they won''t contribute any hard cash they should bugger off and we can get somebody in who will.

RE: the 2 million, it''s a loan! if i wander down to carrow road and offer delia a £2.50 loan does that make me generous? cos it''s the same thing.

[/quote]

I think you need to have a word with your boss, you are earning less than minimum wage. Either that or you need to check your maths...
[/quote]

are you serious i didn''t actually sit here and figure out the exact equivalent based on what i earn annually  was just trying to make a point but if it''s that important it''s the equivalent of me loaning city £13.52 doesn''t really change my point does it?

[/quote]

I didn''t think you had worked it out at all. On an average wage its more like £200, and thats based on 1 years earnings and ignoring taking into account your assets. You base your whole point on extremely inaccurate figures, which makes your point worthless. The fact that you also have no understanding of the nature of these types of loans also means you should really keep quiet, you are just embarassing yourself.
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i can see people are getting confused here so i will simplify my arguement

turners are mega rich, ncfc are very poor, answer= turners give ncfc lots of money

otherwise whats the point in them being involved?

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[quote user="Say Hello To The Angels"]

i can see people are getting confused here so i will simplify my arguement

turners are mega rich, ncfc are very poor, answer= turners give ncfc lots of money

otherwise whats the point in them being involved?

[/quote]The Turners have a company worth 250+ million.NCFC has a turnover of 20 million per year.The Turners have knowledge and experience of building a company from NCFC size to Central Trust size.  They can offer their contacts and experience to the benefit of NCFC, aswell as providing loans.

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Angels, the Turners are ASSET rich not CASH rich. Two very different things. Proportionally, they have given a far larger proportion of their available cash than you give them credit for.To explain, the club is also fairly asset rich, in owning our own ground, training facilities, other land etc. But as a club we are cash POOR because of the expensive business we are in, and the loans we have. Hence the lack of big signings.Blah explains the ''point'' of the Turners well so I won''t repeat it.

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