Sugar daddy or tradition?

[HappyhammerAndy 0]

Norwich fans rightly or wrongly slagged off sugardaddys in The Premiership.

There seems to be a split beginning between you guys.

Why don''t you set up your own poll?

1/ After the QPR takeover, I want a foreign sugardaddy to take over our club and pump millions into it, even though we might lose some of our tradition and fan base etc.

or

2/ Even though we might not get into The Pemiership without a sugardaddy. I want the club to stay as it is.

I''ve seen some posts for 1 and some for 2.

Why don''t you se up a poll to judge the feeling amongst NUFC fans now.

 

[Kathy 823]

Who are NUFC? Do I know them?

[macdougalls perm 0]

For me, it wouldn''t be this simple - it would totally depend on who the ''sugardaddy'' was. And, yeah, I don''t see what the opinion of Newcastle fans has to do with it, lol! [;)]  

[Ginja 43]

[quote user="Kathy"]Who are NUFC? Do I know them?[/quote]It was ITFC but then Norwich Union took over [:D]

[Syteanric 1]

[quote user="Kathy"]Who are NUFC? Do I know them?[/quote]

the mighty planters! Norwich utd FC!

jas :)

[blahblahblah 2]

As a user of this forum, you should be able to set the poll up yourself.  I''m sure you''ll get a response, seems like a reasonable question.I guess most people are getting used to the idea that the Smiths will be replaced by the Turners, and don''t see a foreign sugardaddy as a likely outcome.

[Budger 0]

Newcastle United

[HappyhammerAndy 0]

Norwich Union F C ? Pardon moi

[renegade 0]

I agree with Kathy, what use is asking what Newcastle fans think...

 

okay, yeah, we''re just being picky

[HappyhammerAndy 0]

Thanks blahblahblah.

Just thought that this was such a crucial subject for you guys that you would want to ask the question from NCFC viewpoint. If it comes from  me as an outsider, it will be ridiculed, don''t you think?

I came up to Rose Lane on many occassions in the past. I knew many of the people and you were a good bunch.

Don''t you think that you need to consider things like -  Any new owner would want to sell off the ground because it is prime site, next to the station, city centre for business and Close to all the pubs!!!!

Possible bigger ground, but where would it be rellocated?

Influence of foreign business concerns on the City and area.

Other questions too. Got to go.  

[Icecream Snow 777]

I can''t help feel that there are three main camps: the foreign nationals seeing ownership of a British team as a status symbol (eg Fayed), those who do it for the love of the game (eg Dave Whelan) and those purely out to make money (Glazier/Hicks etc).Sadly most of the new owners are there because of the lucrative TV deals and Champions League money, and ultimately it''s the common fan that will suffer. One fan has already taken Malcolm Glazier to court over the season ticket arrangements, and being forced to sign a blank cheque for the cup games. I heard someone had to pay £60 to see Spurs play. We will continue to see failing attendances in the Premiership and rising ticket costs.How on earth the Man City takeover was allowed to take place when the former Thai Prime Minister is being investigated on corruption charges makes the Premier League''s "Fit and Proper Person" test an absolute joke. I mean, what will it take for someone to fail it?

[HappyhammerAndy 0]

From WHU position, you can stick Magnusson down as somebody who loves the game, the club, and the fans but would like to make a profit if at all possible. Our prices have gone up as well, but what the heck?

He loves the fans and has rewarded them by paying for 3,000 supporter''s to travel to an away game for nothing.

He has put his money where his mouth is and has bought the land outside West Ham tube station for a new 50/60,000 seater stadium, which West Ham are likely to fill for alot of games. He realises though that the ground at Upton Park will fetch alot of money for flats etc. with great access to the City.

A shrewd business man.

If you can get one like him then your quids in, but if you get a wrongun???

[blahblahblah 2]

Hmm - He loves the game, the club, and is a shrewd businessman.  Football at the moment isn''t about shrewd business though, it seems to be  about spending as much money as is humanly possible to get the best available players in your shirt.If Magnusson is doing what he is doing for philanthropic reasons, then West Ham are a lucky team.The larger recent takeovers have been about leverage (future income from supporters paying for the takeovers), building a global brand, creating something you can either sell on or take a profit out of to build a bigger business empire.  I think this where concern about foreign investment comes from, although there''s no reason why a British businessman wouldn''t do the same.  If Ridsdale had shown a tiny fraction of the Glazers'' business nous, there''s no way that Leeds would be where they are now.While there''s someone in charge of the club that the majority of fans feel is doing what''s in the clubs'' best interests, I think that''s as much as you can hope for.

[ricardo 8,037]

 

I fail to see where someone coming in with money would have any effect upon our tradition and fan base.

Q.P.R. are going to have their £17 million debt expunged and a further £30 million pumped into the club over the next 3 years. Please don''t tell me that we would not like to see a similar situation for our club.

Premiership clubs are now much like American football teams in the NFL, they are rich mens toys. Without big financial backing Norwich City could never stay there even if they get promotion.

If we relect a backer just because they are not local then we condemn this club to be forever an also ran.

[Citizen Journalist Foghorn 0]

[quote user="ricardo"]

 

I fail to see where someone coming in with money would have any effect upon our tradition and fan base.

Q.P.R. are going to have their £17 million debt expunged and a further £30 million pumped into the club over the next 3 years. Please don''t tell me that we would not like to see a similar situation for our club.

Premiership clubs are now much like American football teams in the NFL, they are rich mens toys. Without big financial backing Norwich City could never stay there even if they get promotion.

If we relect a backer just because they are not local then we condemn this club to be forever an also ran.

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exactly, you have to move with the times... Something NCFC is not very good at.  People talk about a financial meltdown...  well considering teh popularity of the Premiership around the globe I do not see this happening anytime soon...

[HappyhammerAndy 0]

Blahblahblah

How come you can have a decent discussion/banter with you without alot of the cr*p that some of your mates do? Nice one.

Would agree with most things that you say. It''s a damn good job that he is a shrewd  business man or the "Tevez affair" might have finished up differently!

As regards, getting different views regarding, Sugar daddies or/ tradition, see the comments on the post about QPR

It happened at West Ham, it''s happening at many of the other club''s websites that I post on, and, it will probably happen with Norwich.  Over a period of time you will begin to get the supporters who are "for" and those that are "against"  a possible buyout.

At least it will make for more topics on this site?

Good luck for the season.

 

 

[blahblahblah 2]

[quote]It happened at West Ham, it''s happening at many of the other club''s

websites that I post on, and, it will probably happen with

Norwich.  Over a period of time you will begin to get the supporters

who are "for" and those that are "against"  a possible buyout.[/quote]Agreed, it''s happening everywhere and effects us all as fans to some extent, whether in league position or in the pocket for ticket prices or shirts.  Ironically, the biggest stand against sugar-daddies was at Man Utd, supporters of most other teams seem to just accept that it''s part of the game or even welcome take-overs.  Norwich might well be one of the last of the clubs in the top 2 tiers to fall, if they do fall, mainly because the Turners seem to have a lot of collateral and Delia has made her feelings on the subject very clear in the press.  I''d expect the Turners to be enthroned some time in the next 5 years, more of a coronation than a takeover, with them being next in line [:)]Cheers for the kind words, best of luck to you too Andy.