Fair play to Russ

[duke63 545]

For refusing to give Sunak any time, promotion or photo opportunities at Southampton. 
 

 

[Nuff Said 5,191]

Looking more and more like we really missed out by not giving him a job. :- (

[The Real Buh 3,486]

Is there any real evidence that he was ever close to getting the job?

Id have had the guy in a heartbeat because I can see he’s a proper ambitious leader. Sadly, the only real way we’d now get a chance of him managing us is if he massively fails, therefore making him an ideal candidate for NCFC management in our ownerships eyes.

[East Rider 553]

4 minutes ago, Nuff Said said:

Looking more and more like we really missed out by not giving him a job. :- (

It would have been a huge risk at the time, in any way you look at it (with the exception of hindsight of course). 

Not sure it would have worked out 

Edited January 1 by East Rider

[cambridgeshire canary 6,836]

8 minutes ago, The Real Buh said:

Is there any real evidence that he was ever close to getting the job?

Id have had the guy in a heartbeat because I can see he’s a proper ambitious leader. Sadly, the only real way we’d now get a chance of him managing us is if he massively fails, therefore making him an ideal candidate for NCFC management in our ownerships eyes.

Well according to those who claim to be "in the know" Russ had "burned bridges with us" to the point he would never be allowed to manage us.

 

Of course they never have said what this even means or how they know this.

[littleyellowbirdie 2,605]

The grass is always greener. The last time we had an ex-player chosen as manager was Neil Adams; there were complaints of it showing no ambition and the guy was largely ridiculed throughout his time managing us.

It's not hard to see why Martin wouldn't have wanted to follow in his footsteps.

[TheBaldOne66 704]

1 minute ago, littleyellowbirdie said:

The grass is always greener. The last time we had an ex-player chosen as manager was Neil Adams; there were complaints of it showing no ambition and the guy was largely ridiculed throughout his time managing us.

It's not hard to see why Martin wouldn't have wanted to follow in his footsteps.

Ridiculed because he was not a manager anywhere before though was he? 
 

If you are going to say stuff like that put the reasons on there would be a good idea surely. He was a radio pundit. 

[littleyellowbirdie 2,605]

6 minutes ago, TheBaldOne66 said:

Ridiculed because he was not a manager anywhere before though was he? 
 

If you are going to say stuff like that put the reasons on there would be a good idea surely. He was a radio pundit. 

He was a manager. He was our Youth Manager who won us the FA Youth cup. Daniel Farke was only a reserves manager before he came to us.

Edited January 1 by littleyellowbirdie

[The Bristol Nest 518]

1 hour ago, Nuff Said said:

Looking more and more like we really missed out by not giving him a job. :- (

Really? I reckon that Rishi would have been a sh1te football manager as well as a sh2te pm!

[TheBaldOne66 704]

1 hour ago, littleyellowbirdie said:

He was a manager. He was our Youth Manager who won us the FA Youth cup. Daniel Farke was only a reserves manager before he came to us.

Maybe the ridicule also had something to do with that quote yet again from our illustrious owners

We scoured Europe and Neil is the best there is.

[Mason 47 1,403]

Maybe he would have been good for us, however I can't shake the feeling that Southamptons excellent squad might be a pertinent factor here. 

[littleyellowbirdie 2,605]

21 minutes ago, TheBaldOne66 said:

Maybe the ridicule also had something to do with that quote yet again from our illustrious owners

We scoured Europe and Neil is the best there is.

Exactly. Farke came here as a B team manager before that without it being questioned that he was the best candidate we could find. The fact that Adams was already under our nose automatically set him up for ridicule.

Fans don't like managers that have any sort of credible track record managing at a higher level because there'll almost certainly be sackings to beat them over the head with and they don't like managers with little track record who have close history with Norwich. It's a joke that so many pine for Martin now when there's no way he'd have got much respect if we'd taken him on before now.

Edited January 1 by littleyellowbirdie

[Nuff Said 5,191]

1 hour ago, The Bristol Nest said:

Really? I reckon that Rishi would have been a sh1te football manager as well as a sh2te pm!

Jesus no! (To Rishi as manager, I’m not disagreeing with you)

[Nuff Said 5,191]

45 minutes ago, Mason 47 said:

Maybe he would have been good for us, however I can't shake the feeling that Southamptons excellent squad might be a pertinent factor here. 

He was well-regarded enough with what he achieved in his previous roles to be offered the Southampton job though. And he would have been a much better fit in terms of footballing philosophy continuing on from Farke than Smith was (whose “philosophy” appears to have been at best whatever works).

Edited January 1 by Nuff Said

[Capt. Pants 4,300]

3 hours ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

Well according to those who claim to be "in the know" Russ had "burned bridges with us" to the point he would never be allowed to manage us.

 

Of course they never have said what this even means or how they know this.

If that was due to Webber then that obstacle has been removed.

It makes no difference as Martin won't be available unless he fails to get them promoted this season, or he slips into bottom 3 EPL next.

[Mason 47 1,403]

7 minutes ago, Nuff Said said:

He was well-regarded enough with what he achieved in his previous roles to be offered the Southampton job though. And he would have been a much better fit in terms of footballing philosophy continuing on from Farke than Smith was (whose “philosophy” appears to have been at best whatever works).

Of course, not saying he would have been a bad choice. However in those previous jobs his teams were praised for style but also not really near making any sort of challenge.

That, and we already know getting promoted with a pure footballing side doesn't really work- Burnley are also learning that lesson this season, despite being practically untouchable last year. Remains to be seen whether or not Russ can develop that side of the game, and he may well do. 

 In the next appointment I think we'll be looking for evolution rather than revolution.

[Cowboy 206]

3 hours ago, Nuff Said said:

Looking more and more like we really missed out by not giving him a job. :- (

Who Sunak? He'd have played Sara on the right wing. Come to that, he'd have played everybody on the right wing.... Now there's an idea. David!

[Nuff Said 5,191]

1 hour ago, Mason 47 said:

Of course, not saying he would have been a bad choice. However in those previous jobs his teams were praised for style but also not really near making any sort of challenge.

That, and we already know getting promoted with a pure footballing side doesn't really work- Burnley are also learning that lesson this season, despite being practically untouchable last year. Remains to be seen whether or not Russ can develop that side of the game, and he may well do. 

 In the next appointment I think we'll be looking for evolution rather than revolution.

But Martín would have been an evolution from Farke. And it feels a little bit harsh to accuse him of not challenging with Swansea and MK Dons, neither were expected to achieve much. Obviously Saints come with different expectations.
 

Having said that, I don’t disagree about the limitations of the style in the PL for a promoted side but it would be nice to have a sniff of getting the chance.

Edited January 1 by Nuff Said