A free kick that you never tire of seeing

[CDMullins 443]

Phil Mulryne, dead ball expert.

[Barham Blitz 657]

10 hours ago, Muffles said:

I don't recall Norwich ever really having a dead ball specialist worth getting excited about if we got a free kick within 30 yards of goal - the occasional stonker with Vrancic, Lappin, even Maddison... I am of the age though of remembering the excellent Crook/Bowen combination down the left

I remember Chippy hitting a good one against Forest (I think) - took it quickly and beat the keeper from about 25 yards in the top corner.

[By Heck It's Fleck 10]

5 minutes ago, Barham Blitz said:

I remember Chippy hitting a good one against Forest (I think) - took it quickly and beat the keeper from about 25 yards in the top corner.

What a lovely bend on that ball

[Norfolk Dan 308]

Favourite Norwich city goal of all time. 

Peak Norwich. 2 up, away to Munich. 

Free kick Chippy... Header Bowen...  I remember thinking we are 2 up can in get any better! 

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bowen+mark+goal+v+munich&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjj9p-B8q3_AhVPiVwKHZg2BLcQ0pQJegQICRAB&biw=393&bih=672&dpr=2.75#ip=1

 

Pick one to watch....

 

 

[canarybubbles 1,937]

16 hours ago, PurpleCanary said:

The Vrancic one saved a point at the death, with a crowd, but this Quintilla one is I think technically as good, and came from a real foul...🤩

 

HIGHLIGHTS | Norwich City 4-1 Reading - Bing video

 

 

Some thoughts after watching this.

1) When I watch these old videos from 18/19 (especially, but also 20/21), the defensive frailties look fairly similar to those of last season, and we often seem to go behind. The difference was the belief that we would come from behind and win, which is very clear in this video.

2) What the hell happened to Cantwell? He is so good in these highlights. Not having this version of Cantwell over the last two seasons has really been a negative factor.

3) I always felt Quintilla was a good player and was one who got away for whatever reason. He was an excellent striker of a dead ball, from corners as well as free kicks.

4) As always, a sense of huge disappointment of how something so good rapidly declined to the clueless mess of the last two seasons, riddled with self-doubt and lacking any kind of structure or coherence. 

EDIT: And then the anger kicks in. At the appointment of Smith, and then allowing him to continue to oversee this rotting from within.

Edited June 6, 2023 by canarybubbles

[littleyellowbirdie 2,580]

14 minutes ago, canarybubbles said:

Some thoughts after watching this.

1) When I watch these old videos from 18/19 (especially, but also 20/21), the defensive frailties look fairly similar to those of last season, and we often seem to go behind. The difference was the belief that we would come from behind and win, which is very clear in this video.

2) What the hell happened to Cantwell? He is so good in these highlights. Not having this version of Cantwell over the last two seasons has really been a negative factor.

3) I always felt Quintilla was a good player and was one who got away for whatever reason. He was an excellent striker of a dead ball, from corners as well as free kicks.

4) As always, a sense of huge disappointment of how something so good rapidly declined to the clueless mess of the last two seasons, riddled with self-doubt and lacking any kind of structure or coherence. 

EDIT: And then the anger kicks in. At the appointment of Smith, and then allowing him to continue to oversee this rotting from within.

1) so same old problem, only difference a crowd willing to support a team that needs to chase the game instead of getting on their back as soon as they're behind.

2) Cantwell went off the rails under Farke. One point that underlines how absurd putting Farke on too much of a pedestal is.

3) We had the option to sign Quintilla. The only reasonable explanation for us not taking a concrete option is Farke wasn't that fussed.

4)It wasn't that good. We did a lot of winning in the Championship two out of three seasons, and even more losing in the Premier League for 1 1/4 seasons under his tenure.

5)How the hell have you made a thread that has nothing to do with Farke all about Farke? Get over it; it was good, but not that good.

Edited June 6, 2023 by littleyellowbirdie

[canarybubbles 1,937]

17 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said:

1) so same old problem, only difference a crowd willing to support a team that needs to chase the game instead of getting on their back as soon as they're behind.

2) Cantwell went off the rails under Farke. One point that underlines how absurd putting Farke on too much of a pedestal is.

3) We had the option to sign Quintilla. The only reasonable explanation for us not taking a concrete option is Farke wasn't that fussed.

4)It wasn't that good. We did a lot of winning in the Championship two out of three seasons, and even more losing in the Premier League for 1 1/4 seasons under his tenure.

5)How the hell have you made a thread that has nothing to do with Farke all about Farke? Get over it; it was good, but not that good.

1) Chicken and egg. IMO, the players believed, so the fans believed, not vice-versa.

2) We don't know why Cantwell went off the rails. You assume it was something to do with Farke. It could also have been something to do with Webber. We don't know.

3) True, Farke was probably involved in this decision. I still don't understand why we didn't sign Quintilla, and we'll never know for sure.

4) After last season, I think most fans would be over the moon to win the Championship easily and would not agree that winning it twice 'wasn't that good'.

5) Irony. How many times did I mention Farke in my post? Zero. How many times do you use his name in your reply? Five.  If anyone is making the thread 'all about Farke', it is you.

[littleyellowbirdie 2,580]

16 minutes ago, canarybubbles said:

1) Chicken and egg. IMO, the players believed, so the fans believed, not vice-versa.

2) We don't know why Cantwell went off the rails. You assume it was something to do with Farke. It could also have been something to do with Webber. We don't know.

3) True, Farke was probably involved in this decision. I still don't understand why we didn't sign Quintilla, and we'll never know for sure.

4) After last season, I think most fans would be over the moon to win the Championship easily and would not agree that winning it twice 'wasn't that good'.

5) Irony. How many times did I mention Farke in my post? Zero. How many times do you use his name in your reply? Five.  If anyone is making the thread 'all about Farke', it is you.

2) I don't assume anything. Cantwell went off the rails; Farke was his manager; there were signs of Cantwell actually developing a bit of positivity after Farke was gone.

4) After last season; in other words with the benefit of hindsight.

5) That's hilarious. You pick out 18/19 and 20/21 (skipping the poor seasons around them), pinning things down irrefutably to Farke's stewardship, being angry at  his replacement, and pretend your post has nothing to do with Farke's sacking. Priceless. A true masterclass in gaslighting by yourself. And irrespective of your claims, your post had **** all to do with classic free kicks.

Edited June 6, 2023 by littleyellowbirdie

[canarybubbles 1,937]

18 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said:

2) I don't assume anything. Cantwell went off the rails; Farke was his manager; there were signs of Cantwell actually developing a bit of positivity after Farke was gone.

4) After last season; in other words with the benefit of hindsight.

5) That's hilarious. You pick out 18/19 and 20/21, pinning things down irrefutably to Farke's stewardship, being angry at  his replacement, and pretend your post has nothing to do with Farke's sacking. Priceless. A true masterclass in gaslighting by yourself. And irrespective of your claims, your post had **** all to do with classic free kicks.

A rather obvious logical point: because I disagreed with B (appointment of Smith) does not mean that I disagreed with A (sacking of Farke). In fact, I was ambivalent about the sacking (although I hated how it was done), with a slight preference for the idea that it was necessary. 

This will be my last reply because I can't see the point of discussion with someone who refuses to respond to what I actually wrote rather than what he has decided I wrote.

[TheRock 171]

16 hours ago, Capt. Pants said:

Graham Paddon was way better. Heavier ball as well.

Still my favourite freekick

 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln4_SNKbS_U

 

Maddison had a copycat of this a few years back!

 

[littleyellowbirdie 2,580]

 

1 hour ago, canarybubbles said:

Some thoughts after watching this.

1) When I watch these old videos from 18/19 (especially, but also 20/21), the defensive frailties look fairly similar to those of last season, and we often seem to go behind. The difference was the belief that we would come from behind and win, which is very clear in this video.

2) What the hell happened to Cantwell? He is so good in these highlights. Not having this version of Cantwell over the last two seasons has really been a negative factor.

3) I always felt Quintilla was a good player and was one who got away for whatever reason. He was an excellent striker of a dead ball, from corners as well as free kicks.

4) As always, a sense of huge disappointment of how something so good rapidly declined to the clueless mess of the last two seasons, riddled with self-doubt and lacking any kind of structure or coherence. 

EDIT: And then the anger kicks in. At the appointment of Smith, and then allowing him to continue to oversee this rotting from within.

 

33 minutes ago, canarybubbles said:

A rather obvious logical point: because I disagreed with B (appointment of Smith) does not mean that I disagreed with A (sacking of Farke). In fact, I was ambivalent about the sacking (although I hated how it was done), with a slight preference for the idea that it was necessary. 

This will be my last reply because I can't see the point of discussion with someone who refuses to respond to what I actually wrote rather than what he has decided I wrote.

The comment in bold betrays a very different attitude to the one you're pretending to. What sort of lunatic would want to replace something they considered 'so good'?

Equally, there was no rational ground for anyone to be angry at the appointment of Smith, as an accomplished manager. We were subjected to umpteen arguments that he was a 'failure' because Villa sacked him in a bid to undermine confidence so his boo boys could get their way.

Well, if that's true, then Farke's now a double failure for being sacked by us and now by BM, so we can all move on.

Edited June 6, 2023 by littleyellowbirdie

[horsefly 4,310]

John Ryan could hit a free kick that would take your head off if you were stupid enough to put it in the way.

[canarydan23 4,060]

2 hours ago, littleyellowbirdie said:

Get over it; it was good, but not that good.

Unless you were actually there, then it was ****ing brilliant and among our most enjoyable season's in most people's lifetimes.

[littleyellowbirdie 2,580]

35 minutes ago, canarydan23 said:

Unless you were actually there, then it was ****ing brilliant and among our most enjoyable season's in most people's lifetimes.

So what? What good's winning the championship comfortably if you can't translate it into survival in the league up? Very few, if any, were using these points to argue against sacking Farke in the run up to sacking Farke while we were wallowing at the bottom of the Premier League.

And you have to ask yourself if the squad would have bounced back so well in the second championship win if Farke had had despondent fans sulking over relegation right at the start of the season undermining the team's confidence instead of being kept away by Covid.

Edited June 6, 2023 by littleyellowbirdie

[canarydan23 4,060]

17 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said:

So what? What good's winning the championship comfortably if you can't translate it into survival in the league up? Very few, if any, were using these points to argue against sacking Farke in the run up to sacking Farke while we were wallowing at the bottom of the Premier League.

And you have to ask yourself if the squad would have bounced back so well in the second championship win if Farke had had despondent fans sulking over relegation right at the start of the season undermining the team's confidence instead of being kept away by Covid.

What good's winning the Championship comfortably?!

Enjoyment. That is the main factor for the majority of fans, at least the ones who turn up at the stadium. I want to enjoy watching Norwich, that's the main objective, what league we're in is secondary to that. You've fallen for the Sky propaganda machine that makes fans into EPL-obsessive maniacs who think all success has to be measured through the likelihood of you establishing yourself at the top table.

None of what happened after mattered in that 18/19 season. That we got relegated months later did not make a jot of difference to the euphoria felt when Vrancic's free kick hit the back of the net, or when Hernandez hit an injury-time double to steal a point v Forest, or when I had to explain to my son at only his second Carrow Road visit that not all games will be like that after we beat Millwall 4-3 with an absolutely mental finish to the game. And the fact that it was in a season that we were relegated made no difference to the unbelievable atmosphere and subsequent joy at beating Man City 3-2. That enjoyment and those memories are banked in the moment, not to be sullied by future failure.

No one went home after that civic reception in the city centre in 2019 (or the Hoolahan testimonial after it) thinking "that was amazing, but will all have been a waste of time if we don't stay up next year".

If you don't get that, what's the point in following a football team?

[littleyellowbirdie 2,580]

12 minutes ago, canarydan23 said:

What good's winning the Championship comfortably?!

Enjoyment. That is the main factor for the majority of fans, at least the ones who turn up at the stadium. I want to enjoy watching Norwich, that's the main objective, what league we're in is secondary to that. You've fallen for the Sky propaganda machine that makes fans into EPL-obsessive maniacs who think all success has to be measured through the likelihood of you establishing yourself at the top table.

None of what happened after mattered in that 18/19 season. That we got relegated months later did not make a jot of difference to the euphoria felt when Vrancic's free kick hit the back of the net, or when Hernandez hit an injury-time double to steal a point v Forest, or when I had to explain to my son at only his second Carrow Road visit that not all games will be like that after we beat Millwall 4-3 with an absolutely mental finish to the game. And the fact that it was in a season that we were relegated made no difference to the unbelievable atmosphere and subsequent joy at beating Man City 3-2. That enjoyment and those memories are banked in the moment, not to be sullied by future failure.

No one went home after that civic reception in the city centre in 2019 (or the Hoolahan testimonial after it) thinking "that was amazing, but will all have been a waste of time if we don't stay up next year".

If you don't get that, what's the point in following a football team?

I haven't fallen for anything. I was arguing to keep Farke to the bitter end because I was okay with being a yo yo team. Those against argued it 'was a results business' and he went, so I accepted that. Now people **** and whine about 'enjoyment' up to and beyond results, which made up the terms on which Smith was steadfastly prevented from being given the benefit of the doubt when we were clocking up good results in the first half of this season. Make up your f**king minds.

Edited June 6, 2023 by littleyellowbirdie

[wcorkcanary 4,337]

5 hours ago, canarybubbles said:

1) Chicken and egg. IMO, the players believed, so the fans believed, not vice-versa.

2) We don't know why Cantwell went off the rails. You assume it was something to do with Farke. It could also have been something to do with Webber. We don't know.

3) True, Farke was probably involved in this decision. I still don't understand why we didn't sign Quintilla, and we'll never know for sure.

4) After last season, I think most fans would be over the moon to win the Championship easily and would not agree that winning it twice 'wasn't that good'.

5) Irony. How many times did I mention Farke in my post? Zero. How many times do you use his name in your reply? Five.  If anyone is making the thread 'all about Farke', it is you.

You shouldn't be surprised , he's got nothing better to do all day than argue the toss on here, twisting and turning like a pig on a stick trying to prove an unprovable ( and frankly, ridiculous)  point. ... that point being that he knows so much more about everything than everybody. Know-all bores are fine....as long as they dont try to convince evereyone  how clever they are. 

[wcorkcanary 4,337]

1 hour ago, littleyellowbirdie said:

I haven't fallen for anything. I was arguing to keep Farke to the bitter end because I was okay with being a yo yo team. Those against argued it 'was a results business' and he went, so I accepted that. Now people **** and whine about 'enjoyment' up to and beyond results, which made up the terms on which Smith was steadfastly prevented from being given the benefit of the doubt when we were clocking up good results in the first half of this season. Make up your f**king minds.

Jousting Windmills again? They're out to get you, you know that dontya? 

[canarydan23 4,060]

2 hours ago, littleyellowbirdie said:

I haven't fallen for anything. I was arguing to keep Farke to the bitter end because I was okay with being a yo yo team. Those against argued it 'was a results business' and he went, so I accepted that. Now people **** and whine about 'enjoyment' up to and beyond results, which made up the terms on which Smith was steadfastly prevented from being given the benefit of the doubt when we were clocking up good results in the first half of this season. Make up your f**king minds.

Are you a little confused?

It was because of the desire to enjoy following your club that Smith was given less leeway with the fans. It was similar with Hughton, who actually led us to a better finish in the EPL than Lambert did. Because the football was so turgid, even when the results were positive fans were still not happy so when the results turned, the fans turned quickly.

And that's another topic anyway; I was commenting on your stupid comment that there is no point winning the Championship if it doesn't result in survival in the EPL.

[lake district canary 4,542]

We've had some great free kick specialists over the years.  Paddon, Peters, Peter Morris, Crook, etc but out of all the ones I can think of, Vrancic was the one who you would trust to deliver most of all. 

Nunez has to be the one to step up into that role as having a free kick specialist is important in this day and age. He has the ability, just needs to show it more this coming season. 

[Barham Blitz 657]

20 hours ago, By Heck It's Fleck said:

What a lovely bend on that ball

That's the one - good find !

[TheGunnShow 5,987]

12 hours ago, littleyellowbirdie said:

1) so same old problem, only difference a crowd willing to support a team that needs to chase the game instead of getting on their back as soon as they're behind.

2) Cantwell went off the rails under Farke. One point that underlines how absurd putting Farke on too much of a pedestal is.

3) We had the option to sign Quintilla. The only reasonable explanation for us not taking a concrete option is Farke wasn't that fussed.

4)It wasn't that good. We did a lot of winning in the Championship two out of three seasons, and even more losing in the Premier League for 1 1/4 seasons under his tenure.

5)How the hell have you made a thread that has nothing to do with Farke all about Farke? Get over it; it was good, but not that good.

Think the bigger reason was that Giannoulis looked far better at the time and gave us much more pace. Quintilla also had a pretty heavy-duty hip injury as well during his time here IIRC, this was how Lungi came up.

Edited June 6, 2023 by TheGunnShow

[Barham Blitz 657]

7 hours ago, wcorkcanary said:

Jousting Windmills again? They're out to get you, you know that dontya?