The Raptor 1,573 Posted November 16, 2022 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63653384 Ivan Toney: Brentford striker charged by FA with 232 breaches of betting rules Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,680 Posted November 16, 2022 28 minutes ago, The Raptor said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63653384 Ivan Toney: Brentford striker charged by FA with 232 breaches of betting rules Of course its not cheating if you are fixing it yourself. Its worse than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulfotto 800 Posted November 16, 2022 He was probably all in on being left out of the World Cup squad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 6,149 Posted November 17, 2022 No wonder he's not in the England squad. Obviously the nature of the bets isn't known but 232 is an awful lot. If found guilty Brentford will be needing a permanent replacement in January. Perhaps we should all have a few quid on Teemu leaving? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 11,136 Posted November 17, 2022 "He don't want to live forever." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
city4eva 243 Posted November 17, 2022 Explains why he was left out of the England squad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,682 Posted November 17, 2022 I bet he regrets it now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheRock 192 Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) The article doesn't actually say what the betting offences are. If he simply had an online account and was betting small amounts on other football matches, the ban shouldn't be that lengthy. Lafferty, Chopra, Trippier are names that all come to mind for similar offences. However, if he was "spot-fixing" and it can be proven he was betting on himself / others for significant amounts of money, where he had knowledge of pre-anticipated scenarios (i.e. Yellow Cards, match fixing etc.), then yes, he will be exiled from football for a long time if the evidence is strong enough. The problem is if the Bookies offer those stupid markets, (such as the exact minute of when a throw in will be awarded, a specific player to get booked, specific player to make a certain amount of tackles) eventually third parties are going to try and start defrauding them, especially in the lower leagues... 🤷♂️ What about when Paddy Power offered that "Player to eat a pie on the sideline" market years ago, and the Sutton United goalie actually did it? The player was subsequently banned, and i'm pretty sure Paddy Power refused to pay out any of those bets as winners. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41181979 Edited November 17, 2022 by TheRock Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 5,014 Posted November 17, 2022 45 minutes ago, TheRock said: The article doesn't actually say what the betting offences are. If he simply had an online account and was betting small amounts on other football matches, the ban shouldn't be that lengthy. Lafferty, Chopra, Trippier are names that all come to mind for similar offences. However, if he was "spot-fixing" and it can be proven he was betting on himself / others for significant amounts of money, where he had knowledge of pre-anticipated scenarios (i.e. Yellow Cards, match fixing etc.), then yes, he will be exiled from football for a long time if the evidence is strong enough. The problem is if the Bookies offer those stupid markets, (such as the exact minute of when a throw in will be awarded, a specific player to get booked, specific player to make a certain amount of tackles) eventually third parties are going to try and start defrauding them, especially in the lower leagues... 🤷♂️ What about when Paddy Power offered that "Player to eat a pie on the sideline" market years ago, and the Sutton United goalie actually did it? The player was subsequently banned, and i'm pretty sure Paddy Power refused to pay out any of those bets as winners. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41181979 I've just Googled rule E8 and it does cover a multitude of different scenarios including supplying privileged information to others and betting on matches the player himself is involved in. The situation here is that Toney has breached the rule 232 times which kind of suggests it's not to do with information but in-match events happening or not happening? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites