Why No Announcement?

[lake district canary 4,531]

2 minutes ago, City 2nd said:

I’ve said it once, and I will say it again. fans do matter, they are the lifeblood of NCFC, Smith and her Cohort (as nephew Tom will be) are mere custodians of NCFC, yes they may own more shares, but without the supporters there would be no NCFC. So the fact is LDC, Fans do know best, and the custodians would do well to listen because the majority of those fans are getting restless, for quite obvious reasons.

Of course fans matter, but just because they get frustrated doesn't mean they know better than the professionals, which was my point.  I don't know any more than anyone else, but I reckon that the best people to judge what is going on behind the scenes....are those behind the scenes.

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5 minutes ago, lake district canary said:

Of course fans matter, but just because they get frustrated doesn't mean they know better than the professionals, which was my point.  I don't know any more than anyone else, but I reckon that the best people to judge what is going on behind the scenes....are those behind the scenes.

Who exactly do you mean by professionals behind the scenes, maybe a CEO or Chairman  ?....... Oh hang on a minute !

[Jersey Canary 143]

On 26/10/2021 at 17:29, Big Vince said:

Tis now more than 72 hours post-Chelsea yet no heads are rolling. No scaffold erected either at Carrow Road or Colney. Nothing.

Could you ever imagine Deadly Doug taking this long to call in the executioner?

Complete and utter dereliction of duty.

The board are wilfully going for relegation as a matter of choice.

Is obvious and matches past form completely.

Worst owners and worst board of all-time. Allow the club badge to be dragged through the mud. Allow the club to become a global laughing stock. Yet do nothing and are seen to do nothing. Not even a dreaded vote of confidence. Nothing. Not a whimper.

It’s an over reaction. If we lose against Leeds badly then I’ll be more worried.

[Big Vince 318]

2 hours ago, lake district canary said:

Of course fans matter, but just because they get frustrated doesn't mean they know better than the professionals, which was my point.  I don't know any more than anyone else, but I reckon that the best people to judge what is going on behind the scenes....are those behind the scenes.

Absolute nonsense. You don't mean to tell me that the Socialists are professionals. Professionals are supposed to know what they are doing and if they did make a mistake they would not do it again. But the Socialists keep making the same mistakes over and over again, especially when it comes to recognising that a manager has reached his sell-by date. If you are in professional football one of the skills you need to have is knowing when to sack managers. You need to know what is going on in the dressing room, on the training ground and be able to judge if the players are listening to the manager and if the manager is getting a reaction from the players. A proper owner should know everything about what is going on. But the Socialists don't have a clue what is going on at Colney as Delia admitted in a radio interview in 2007. They stay well clear and leave it all to Webber and Farke. So how are they supposed to then be in a position to judge what is going on? It should therefore come as no surprise that they leave it to the crowd to judge the fate of the manager because they know nothing themselves to make a judgement. All they know is that Webber and Farke are in agreement with them as to what is required to keep the self-funding model working ie. cheap recruitment, academy, player trading, parachute payments, infrastructure, etc. Strategically, they are all in it together so not any of them can possibly judge themselves. Why would they? As far as they are concerned everything is just fine because it has all been agreed internally.

[Big Vince 318]

14 hours ago, hogesar said:

Unfortunately some can't wait that long because they need the drama in their lives.

Heads need to roll and they need to be seen to roll to serve as a warning to others that a lack of pride in the badge will not be tolerated.

[Big Vince 318]

13 hours ago, lake district canary said:

👍😛 

See no reason why Tom Smith could not maintain the good running of the club and keeping the self-sustaining model going for years to come and Adams a good sporting director.  Both are currently in the right situations in getting experience for those positions, should the situation arise. 

Building from within is not a bad thing for any football club, if it can be done well.  It makes me wonder if one of the coaches behind the scenes is earmarked for Farke's position, should he leave (I hope he doesn't).

 

Are you seriously suggesting that Edmund Riemer could step into Farke's shoes?

[SwindonCanary 455]

When we play Leeds I would like to see us play with a lot more energy and closing down on the opposition 

[Duncan Edwards 2,236]

5 minutes ago, Big Vince said:

Are you seriously suggesting that Edmund Riemer could step into Farke's shoes?

Was successful in the Chase era to promote from within. Brown/Stringer/Walker, what’s not to like? 

[nutty nigel 7,534]

Just now, Duncan Edwards said:

Was successful in the Chase era to promote from within. Brown/Stringer/Walker, what’s not to like? 

Stringer and Walker. Oh the scenes those appointments caused!!!!

[Duncan Edwards 2,236]

Just now, nutty nigel said:

Stringer and Walker. Oh the scenes those appointments caused!!!!

“Cheap option…”

[Big Vince 318]

On 26/10/2021 at 16:34, lake district canary said:

That's because they are getting on with the job and not panicking......nor pandering to people like you who have an agenda. 

At what point do they start panicking? 18 EPL games without a win followed by a 7-0 defeat. Just how bad does it have to get? 25 games? 30? 50? 100? Another relegation? Then another? And another? Administration? Winding up?

[Big Vince 318]

6 minutes ago, Duncan Edwards said:

Was successful in the Chase era to promote from within. Brown/Stringer/Walker, what’s not to like? 

Riemer has not got any top level experience as a player and has not therefore been able to help Farke with any pearls of wisdom in how to approach the EPL. Brown/Stringer/Walker was different in that a successful set-up was inherited from one to the other. Just like Liverpool in the 70s, 80s.

[Commonsense 623]

38 minutes ago, Big Vince said:

Absolute nonsense. You don't mean to tell me that the Socialists are professionals. Professionals are supposed to know what they are doing and if they did make a mistake they would not do it again. But the Socialists keep making the same mistakes over and over again, especially when it comes to recognising that a manager has reached his sell-by date. If you are in professional football one of the skills you need to have is knowing when to sack managers. You need to know what is going on in the dressing room, on the training ground and be able to judge if the players are listening to the manager and if the manager is getting a reaction from the players. A proper owner should know everything about what is going on. But the Socialists don't have a clue what is going on at Colney as Delia admitted in a radio interview in 2007. They stay well clear and leave it all to Webber and Farke. So how are they supposed to then be in a position to judge what is going on? It should therefore come as no surprise that they leave it to the crowd to judge the fate of the manager because they know nothing themselves to make a judgement. All they know is that Webber and Farke are in agreement with them as to what is required to keep the self-funding model working ie. cheap recruitment, academy, player trading, parachute payments, infrastructure, etc. Strategically, they are all in it together so not any of them can possibly judge themselves. Why would they? As far as they are concerned everything is just fine because it has all been agreed internally.

Surely you should be more concerned about the Americans?

[Big Vince 318]

2 minutes ago, Commonsense said:

Surely you should be more concerned about the Americans?

The Americans at Liverpool are doing a great job.

[lake district canary 4,531]

40 minutes ago, Big Vince said:

Absolute nonsense. You don't mean to tell me that the Socialists are professionals.

No, I don't mean to tell you that. Webber is the professional in charge of football matters and that is it, until such time he gives the board cause for concern and to my knowledge he has been a more than effective sporting director.  He will make recommendations to the board if he thinks any changes of coach are required.  The majority shareholders are like most football club owners - figureheads who allow the professionals to get on with their jobs.

34 minutes ago, Big Vince said:

Are you seriously suggesting that Edmund Riemer could step into Farke's shoes?

Quite possibly.

25 minutes ago, Big Vince said:

At what point do they start panicking? 18 EPL games without a win followed by a 7-0 defeat. Just how bad does it have to get? 25 games? 30? 50? 100? Another relegation? Then another? And another? Administration? Winding up?

You sound a bit worked up. Maybe take my advice from another thread and calm down a bit?   We have a game on Sunday and we''ll see how that goes and whatever you might think, Farke deserves at least that game.  

 

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Lake District, No! Farke does not deserve one more game. 7-0 was a complete humiliation, a complete capitulation, a horror show of inadequacy in all departments, an embarrassment. In isolation that game could be considered an aberration. But in the context of Farke’s history of abject failure at this level his position is untenable. He should be gone, at any other Club he would be gone.

 

[Big Vince 318]

13 hours ago, lake district canary said:

No, I don't mean to tell you that. Webber is the professional in charge of football matters and that is it, until such time he gives the board cause for concern and to my knowledge he has been a more than effective sporting director.  He will make recommendations to the board if he thinks any changes of coach are required.  The majority shareholders are like most football club owners - figureheads who allow the professionals to get on with their jobs.

Quite possibly.

You sound a bit worked up. Maybe take my advice from another thread and calm down a bit?   We have a game on Sunday and we''ll see how that goes and whatever you might think, Farke deserves at least that game.  

 

Some football club owners like to get more involved than others. Gold and Sullivan for instance. If it was me I would not just be taking the boy Webber's word for it; I would want to see for myself what is going on and form my own judgements which I would then trust absolutely.