SkegbyCanary 0 Posted August 22, 2021 With just over a week of the transfer window left we're all waiting to see who City manage to bring in. But what if that player picks up an injury and is out for a few or more games? City go on about having cover in every position but I can't see it in the defensive midfield area. Otherwise they would been in there against Liverpool and Man City. Gilmour or PLM don't appear to be that player so who? Kenny McLean perhaps?Or do we need to recruit two new players in that position? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZLF 274 Posted August 22, 2021 what became clear yesterday is gilmour, rupp & kenny (& rashica as the attacking left player) offer no wide protection to the left back and we were probably marginally worse second than first half. None of them provide that physical element we are missing, or the ability the shield the back line or the ability of either skipp or buendia to win the ball back. Gilmour at the base may prove to be a poor choice for the base despite the occassional flourished ball out wide. PLM has some physicality and has offered limited success in front of aarons while being the best of the middle 3 for probing through balls and goal threat. Lungi appears to be an option but farke doesnt seem to want him At the moment it feels a big step to assume that this formation with this squad will fare better against lesser sides than the last two PL champions, so either personnel &/or formation has to change. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
York Canary 28 Posted August 22, 2021 24 minutes ago, ZLF said: what became clear yesterday is gilmour, rupp & kenny (& rashica as the attacking left player) offer no wide protection to the left back and we were probably marginally worse second than first half. None of them provide that physical element we are missing, or the ability the shield the back line or the ability of either skipp or buendia to win the ball back. Gilmour at the base may prove to be a poor choice for the base despite the occassional flourished ball out wide. PLM has some physicality and has offered limited success in front of aarons while being the best of the middle 3 for probing through balls and goal threat. Lungi appears to be an option but farke doesnt seem to want him At the moment it feels a big step to assume that this formation with this squad will fare better against lesser sides than the last two PL champions, so either personnel &/or formation has to change. The point about Skipp and Buendia is spot on. So important to our “turnovers” last season. Let’s see what happens during the remainder of the window and when we’ve played “lesser opponents”. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vos 155 Posted August 22, 2021 Skipp is a huge loss as his pace and strength in the tackle enabled him to provide a lot of cover for Hanley/Gibson who are not exactly quick in Premiership terms. I would guess that PLM was intended to be the replacement. Early days but don't think he will provide the answer. Should have spent more to fill this gap instead wasting bit and pieces on mediocre forwards. Of course we all know the real problem, the gap between the two divisions is now very substantial. Just consider the amount of experience and quality who are currently sitting on the benches for the likes of Liverpool/Man City/Chelsea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings of a Sparrow 1,415 Posted August 22, 2021 Of course it's entirely possible we don't get anyone in 😮 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deptford Yellow 258 Posted August 22, 2021 Left field suggestion here - should we have given the ever-green Tettey another year ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paddycanary 539 Posted August 22, 2021 35 minutes ago, Deptford Yellow said: Left field suggestion here - should we have given the ever-green Tettey another year ? Tettey 😢 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CDMullins 436 Posted August 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Deptford Yellow said: Left field suggestion here - should we have given the ever-green Tettey another year ? One of the players who could have held his head high from our last dismal Prem attempt. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,219 Posted August 23, 2021 8 hours ago, York Canary said: The point about Skipp and Buendia is spot on. So important to our “turnovers” last season. Let’s see what happens during the remainder of the window and when we’ve played “lesser opponents”. Absolutely this, how many of our goals last season came from Skipp or Buendia winning the ball back? I’d say it’s probably a fairly high percentage. The issue with losing Buendia was the fact you were both getting rid of the best attacking and best defensive player in our squad in one go! Add to that Skipp not being replaced leaves a massive defensive hole. I’m not bashing the players we have signed as I think we have invested well and bought some exciting talent, but we are stIll missing two defensive monsters and until we replace them we are in trouble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,606 Posted August 23, 2021 7 hours ago, CDMullins said: One of the players who could have held his head high from our last dismal Prem attempt. He wasn't good enough then and he certainly isn't now. I love Tettey but our failure to upgrade him last time round was one of the main reasons we struggled so badly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CDMullins 436 Posted August 23, 2021 32 minutes ago, king canary said: He wasn't good enough then and he certainly isn't now. I love Tettey but our failure to upgrade him last time round was one of the main reasons we struggled so badly. I didn't suggest he was, I said he was one player that every time he walked off the pitch could hold his head up high, he'd given his all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteveN8458 64 Posted August 23, 2021 14 hours ago, ZLF said: what became clear yesterday is gilmour, rupp & kenny (& rashica as the attacking left player) offer no wide protection to the left back and we were probably marginally worse second than first half. None of them provide that physical element we are missing, or the ability the shield the back line or the ability of either skipp or buendia to win the ball back. Gilmour at the base may prove to be a poor choice for the base despite the occassional flourished ball out wide. PLM has some physicality and has offered limited success in front of aarons while being the best of the middle 3 for probing through balls and goal threat. Lungi appears to be an option but farke doesnt seem to want him At the moment it feels a big step to assume that this formation with this squad will fare better against lesser sides than the last two PL champions, so either personnel &/or formation has to change. This was and is so important to our play, it was very clear that whoever is playing LB, the midfield has to help out. I discussed this point with my son only last week. It is vital to our play that ALL players on the pitch need to be aware of where the opposition are focusing on for their attacks and the appropriate support is needed. In this case Dimi was left exposed and ManC exploited it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justin time 182 Posted August 23, 2021 7 hours ago, AJ said: Absolutely this, how many of our goals last season came from Skipp or Buendia winning the ball back? I’d say it’s probably a fairly high percentage. The issue with losing Buendia was the fact you were both getting rid of the best attacking and best defensive player in our squad in one go! Add to that Skipp not being replaced leaves a massive defensive hole. I’m not bashing the players we have signed as I think we have invested well and bought some exciting talent, but we are stIll missing two defensive monsters and until we replace them we are in trouble. I seem to remember that up until last season people were berating Buendia for not chasing back to help out defensively. DF drummed that into him. Is it unreasonable to think he could do the same with the new additions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deptford Yellow 258 Posted August 23, 2021 Paddy Davitt saying somewhere that our new midfielders aren’t as good as Tettey and Skipp ... Ouch... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bagpuss 1 Posted August 23, 2021 14 hours ago, Deptford Yellow said: Left field suggestion here - should we have given the ever-green Tettey another year ? No Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deptford Yellow 258 Posted August 23, 2021 31 minutes ago, bagpuss said: No Well maybe just as a back up ? We do seem to missing some ballast in the centre of the park - fingers crossed Webber’s got it covered ...🤞🏻 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites