@ThatGayPro

[BroadstairsR 2,173]

11 minutes ago, wcorkcanary said:

Yeah,  we get all that Lakey, but the opinions  that  broado has expressed on homosexuality  and his use of the P word  do really need to be addressed.

Really? Dear oh dear? Is 'addressed' just peddling insults and pinning labels then. Surely there must be more to it than that?

If you think what I said is genuine homophobia and racialism then you need to get out more.

You're clearly suffering from keyboard constipation. Eat a couple of apples along with a glass of water. That should do it..

 

Or perhaps you prefer to sit behind your keyboard and take offence.

Edited July 23, 2019 by BroadstairsR

[Feedthewolf 4,846]

3 minutes ago, BroadstairsR said:

Really? Dear oh dear? Is addressed just peddling insults and pinning labels then. Surely there must be more to it than that? As I recall, there was an extremely long discussion, with many very reasonable posts explaining why what you'd said was racist. You refused to accept it, as you still do. Your use of racist language resulted in you being pinned with the label of 'racist'.

If you think what I said is genuine homophobia and racialism then you need to get out more. Just been for a walk; still racist, still homophobic.

Or perhaps you prefer to sit behind your keyboard and take offence. You will die with your bigotry. I can live with that.

 

[wcorkcanary 4,334]

I do take offence at homophobia  and racism, heresa a question for you, similar to one that was asked to Benny Till by  I can't remember who....

If you are so confident in the opinions and words( in Benny's  case it was pictures)you have used recently, would you display them on a billboard and walk around the City centre on a busy day,  displaying  them to the world or are you in fact the guy hiding behind a keyboard? I rest my case.

Edited July 23, 2019 by wcorkcanary

[BroadstairsR 2,173]

What are you on about now?

 

I've admitted that in your book I'm an out an out racist because I used one single word about Pakistani cricketers flippantly.

Shame on me.

 

What more do you want? Blood?

Now just relax. Think of your blood pressure. Another out and out racist damned forever more.

 

Who's next?

[Feedthewolf 4,846]

9 minutes ago, BroadstairsR said:

What are you on about now?

 

I've admitted that in your book I'm an out an out racist because I used one single word about Pakistani cricketers flippantly.

Shame on me.

 

What more do you want? Blood?

Now just relax. Think of your blood pressure. Another out and out racist damned forever more.

 

Who's next?

I don't believe I ever personally said you were 'a racist', and I don't think that using one racist term means that you are a de facto racist. However, your refusal to accept that it was a racist term hasn't helped with the way you're perceived on here.

[wcorkcanary 4,334]

17 minutes ago, BroadstairsR said:

What are you on about now?

 

I've admitted that in your book I'm an out an out racist because I used one single word about Pakistani cricketers flippantly.

Shame on me.

 

What more do you want? Blood?

Now just relax. Think of your blood pressure. Another out and out racist damned forever more.

 

Who's next?

You didn't answer the question. 

[BroadstairsR 2,173]

34 minutes ago, lake district canary said:

Last go on my part.  People need to try and get over themselves and try and show a bit more understanding.  People have all sorts of views about all sorts of subjects - this one is contentious, but what do you people want...that others who are trying to discuss difficult subjects are either too scared to say what they think or can't be bothered to say it because of the reaction they might get? 

It's social media communism.  "You will only say what we want you to say or we will shout you down"

Oh and hi FTW....

 

They won't appreciate that LDC it's too complicated and they have to resort to original thinking to answer your points.

 

That they won't though is because it is off their well-beaten track and needs  a bit of thought processing.

They love labels and insults after all, it's continuous, it's their default.

Try for even a slightly in-depth debate and it's labelled "pompous."

From now on my only response will be "black and white."and the day they vary from that mantra may just be the day they can indulge in proper debate.

[king canary 7,607]

6 minutes ago, BroadstairsR said:

They won't appreciate that LDC it's too complicated and they have to resort to original thinking to answer your points.

 

That they won't though is because it is off their well-beaten track and needs  a bit of thought processing.

They love labels and insults after all, it's continuous, it's their default.

Try for even a slightly in-depth debate and it's labelled "pompous."

From now on my only response will be "black and white."and the day they vary from that mantra may just be the day they can indulge in proper debate.

If you think that post by LDC is complicated then wow...

[lake district canary 4,531]

I've looked back and early on in this thread, broady said - "I must be a little homophobic" about seeing men kissing, so his self-awareness is pretty good.  But where it gets ridiculous is the likes of one or two laying in to him with all guns firing, ignoring any attempts at reasonable discussion.   I tried - and failed - to try and get some more balanced discussion going, but they just don't want it.  There are levels to this - it is not a clear cut issue for everyone and attempts to make it a black and white issue are not necessarily helpful.

We all - I hope - accept everyone's right to be whatever sexuality they like, but some people need the issue discussed more openly.  Why does anyone feel uncomfortable seeing two men kiss....that was the question - and just to shout out 'HOMOPHOBE!' at them which is some people's reaction, helps no-one and just makes those that do the shouting look a bit dumb, tbh.

This board may not be the place to discuss this kind of thing, there are too many would be kings of the board out there who like to control the agenda (FTW take note), but discussion is helpful, it's just that some don't want discussion - they just want to be seen in a good light by their peers, standing up for rights opf everyone etc etc - when all they are doing is strutting around, laying down the law and actually ruining the chance of the subject being discussed properly.

 

 

Edited July 23, 2019 by lake district canary

[BroadstairsR 2,173]

6 minutes ago, Feedthewolf said:

I don't believe I ever personally said you were 'a racist', and I don't think that using one racist term means that you are a de facto racist. However, your refusal to accept that it was a racist term hasn't helped with the way you're perceived on here.

You could have fooled me.

 

Troll back a bit, but watch your blood pressure.

Whatever. Why does one single little word used casually on a footie forum excite you so much when dangerous and real racialism is happening all around you?

Does it suit to blow it out of all proportion? Does it prove to be the perfect way to express innate frustrations?

Are you frightened to confront genuine racism? Does my remark make me an easy target?

For the record. I do not have a racist or homophobic bone in my body, never had never will, and I therefore have a right to defend myself against the tirade of abuse that has jumped to my attack.That one single remark is now diagnosed beyond belief is probably just in reflection of some general need to be emancipated in thought, whilst never doing much about these problems in the real world.

That my whole argument which has been based upon the fact that there is no black and white in such matters has fallen totally upon stony ground is no fault of mine. But that's the way it is.

This racist, homophobic is playing the victim card, but might return to the issue one day.

[BroadstairsR 2,173]

11 minutes ago, king canary said:

If you think that post by LDC is complicated then wow...

It would be to you. What's new?

[Feedthewolf 4,846]

13 minutes ago, BroadstairsR said:

They won't appreciate that LDC it's too complicated and they have to resort to original thinking to answer your points. "Too complicated" = "only I agree with it"

That they won't though is because it is off their well-beaten track and needs  a bit of thought processing. I'm still waiting for a definition of what constitutes "proper racism". Have you processed that thought yet?

They love labels and insults after all, it's continuous, it's their default. What, like "snowflake" you mean?

Try for even a slightly in-depth debate and it's labelled "pompous." Nonsense. On both this and the ill-fated cricket thread, there have been plenty of people who have made long, well-thought-out and reasonable posts in response to yours. I've even posted some myself, but you tend to ignore those and only respond to the ones where I take the p*ss out of you.

From now on my only response will be "black and white."and the day they vary from that mantra may just be the day they can indulge in proper debate. Most people have given up on trying to have a 'proper debate' with you because of your propensity to do exactly the things you are criticising other people for doing.

 

[Feedthewolf 4,846]

2 minutes ago, BroadstairsR said:

You could have fooled me.

 

Troll back a bit, but watch your blood pressure.

Whatever. Why does one single little word used casually on a footie forum excite you so much when dangerous and real racialism is happening all around you?

Does it suit to blow it out of all proportion? Does it prove to be the perfect way to express innate frustrations?

Are you frightened to confront genuine racism? Does my remark make me an easy target?

For the record. I do not have a racist or homophobic bone in my body, never had never will, and I therefore have a right to defend myself against the tirade of abuse that has jumped to my attack.That one single remark is now diagnosed beyond belief is probably just in reflection of some general need to be emancipated in thought, whilst never doing much about these problems in the real world.

That my whole argument which has been based upon the fact that there is no black and white in such matters has fallen totally upon stony ground is no fault of mine. But that's the way it is.

This racist, homophobic is playing the victim card, but might return to the issue one day.

If you can find any instance of me specifically calling you a racist, I will apologise to you unreservedly.

As I said before, your use of a racist term (and subsequent refusal to back down about its usage) led to a lot of this situation. If you say you don't have a racist or homophobic bone in your body, I would politely suggest that you consider more carefully the language you use around these subjects. That's all.

And I am not frightened to confront genuine discrimination in the real world; I have done so previously and would do so again in a heartbeat. That probably makes me a 'virtue signaller', but there you go.

[Herman 9,768]

10 hours ago, Jobsworth Canary said:

You just knew where this thread was going 😂

....and then some...😀

[BroadstairsR 2,173]

Just now, Feedthewolf said:

If you can find any instance of me specifically calling you a racist, I will apologise to you unreservedly.

As I said before, your use of a racist term (and subsequent refusal to back down about its usage) led to a lot of this situation. If you say you don't have a racist or homophobic bone in your body, I would politely suggest that you consider more carefully the language you use around these subjects. That's all.

And I am not frightened to confront genuine discrimination in the real world; I have done so previously and would do so again in a heartbeat. That probably makes me a 'virtue signaller', but there you go.

Sticks and stones young fella.

Chill.

[ricardo 7,395]

4 minutes ago, Herman said:

....and then some...😀

Utterly predictable.

Best ignored.

[wcorkcanary 4,334]

56 minutes ago, wcorkcanary said:

If you are so confident in the opinions and words( in Benny's  case it was pictures)you have used recently, would you display them on a billboard and walk around the City centre on a busy day,  displaying  them to the world or are you in fact the guy hiding behind a keyboard?

Cooooey Broado, you still havent answered.

I understand that you probably wont answer, but after a while you may reflect on it. We live in Hope and Peace and acceptance of        ( nearly) all. Give us a kiss.

[BroadstairsR 2,173]

"However, your refusal to accept that it was a racist term hasn't helped with the way you're perceived on here."

Why should I if I genuinely thought that it was anything to particularly get excited about.

It was virtually a nothing, and to think that so many got so worked up about it was amusing.

 

I tried to explain that the use of a single careless word didn't amount to racism, but to no avail.

It then became fun as one after the other jumped on to their hobby horse and proceeded to extrapolate the issue beyond all recognition.

It became manner from heaven for the forum lurkers who constantly look to take offence and my one word was diagnosed and acted upon beyond all sensible expectations.

The usual culprits had a field day, but it became fun to debate with them, as ever. Their only thread of fact was that one single word after all, but their imaginations went wild and this gave rise to such a torrent of self-righteousness that was amusing to behold.

From then on they only understood what they wanted to understand. No discussion except with insults, no proper debate (far too pompous) just a 'set in concrete' reaction.

It's the same with this debate about gay men. No debate because it's a black and white issue after all.

Anything contrary to their uncompromising position is met with abuse.

If they are so convinced that every single word that emanates for their keyboard is correct, then why do they have a need to resort to labels and insults. It surely demeans their cause.

Is that all they have at the end of the day?

Edited July 23, 2019 by BroadstairsR

[ricardo 7,395]

All part of the identity politics game Broadstairs.

You'll soon get the hang of it.

[BroadstairsR 2,173]

24 minutes ago, wcorkcanary said:

Cooooey Broado, you still havent answered.

I understand that you probably wont answer, but after a while you may reflect on it. We live in Hope and Peace and acceptance of        ( nearly) all. Give us a kiss.

I failed to understand a word of that, let alone come up with an "answer."

Why do you expect me to automatically answer such deranged piffle in any case?

I have no need or desire to be at your beck and call after all.

 

Come on!"

[wcorkcanary 4,334]

3 minutes ago, BroadstairsR said:

I failed to understand a word of that, let alone come up with an "answer."

Why do you expect me to automatically answer such deranged piffle in any case?

I have no need or desire to be at your beck and call after all.

 

Come on!"

Playing hard to get now then ? brilliant ! i love the thrill of the chase 😜

Fancy a Curry sometime, maybe in Brighton.

[Feedthewolf 4,846]

47 minutes ago, BroadstairsR said:

Sticks and stones young fella.

Chill.

A nothing response to a genuine attempt to de-escalate? Figures.

[BroadstairsR 2,173]

4 minutes ago, wcorkcanary said:

Playing hard to get now then ? brilliant ! i love the thrill of the chase 😜

Fancy a Curry sometime, maybe in Brighton.

Are you pissed?

 

I am, but I manage to avoid being obvious about it. 

[Van wink 2,994]

1 minute ago, BroadstairsR said:

Are you pissed?

 

I am, but I manage to avoid being obvious about it. 

Have a word with Billy

[BroadstairsR 2,173]

7 minutes ago, Feedthewolf said:

A nothing response to a genuine attempt to de-escalate? Figures.

"Something" responses never seem to work.

Let's just chill. It's been a long day and even homophobic racists need to relax occasionally.

"Genuine chopper "as Alfred Hitchcock used to say to aspiring actresses.

"Real axe."

Edited July 23, 2019 by BroadstairsR

[wcorkcanary 4,334]

1 minute ago, BroadstairsR said:

Are you pissed?

 

I am, but I manage to avoid being obvious about it. 

Nah Broado , i hardly drink.  You may THINK you are avoiding being obvious about it, but that's because you are drunk.

 

[BroadstairsR 2,173]

Could have fooled me.

[wcorkcanary 4,334]

Just now, BroadstairsR said:

Could have fooled me.

So could most people.

Dinner calls. talk soon xx

[canarydan23 4,060]

1 hour ago, ricardo said:

Utterly predictable.

Best ignored.

Apparently not. 

[ricardo 7,395]

Rubber necking at a traffic incident