littleyellowbirdie 2,581 Posted March 31, 2023 48 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: So do we get rid of the animals to plant the potatoes? That's the way things are going apparently. Just chips, mind; no fish! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 2,581 Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said: Sorry Ricardo but it is actually exactly that - a political project - at its heart to constrain Chinese influence in the region. The economics are very much secondary as should surely be obvious. He was referring to CPTPP. The fact that the EEC morphed into a full on political bloc is where the UK stopped rolling with it; Maastricht was the turning point. The EU used/uses economic tools as carrots for political union, and it's very good for that, but they've finished up overdoing it. Edited March 31, 2023 by littleyellowbirdie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,189 Posted March 31, 2023 Looking at wikipedia there is mention of restrictions of sovereignty on member states of CPTPP I'd need to look at that further to see how much truth, if any, is in that Obviously if there is any truth in it, it's going to annoy those that voted leave to regain sovereignty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 2,581 Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, How I Wrote Elastic Man said: Looking at wikipedia there is mention of restrictions of sovereignty on member states of CPTPP I'd need to look at that further to see how much truth, if any, is in that Obviously if there is any truth in it, it's going to annoy those that voted leave to regain sovereignty It's inevitable in any international agreement that it restricts options. The main element in this case is investment protections that mean governments can be pursued for compensation if they legislate in ways that negatively affect inward investment companies may have made. Edited March 31, 2023 by littleyellowbirdie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted March 31, 2023 25 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said: That's the way things are going apparently. Just chips, mind; no fish! You will have to covince all the Sun readers that there is more than Cod. And you left Norfolk just as Norwich got so close to the sea you can fish from your front garden in Thorpe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,396 Posted March 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, How I Wrote Elastic Man said: Looking at wikipedia there is mention of restrictions of sovereignty on member states of CPTPP I'd need to look at that further to see how much truth, if any, is in that Obviously if there is any truth in it, it's going to annoy those that voted leave to regain sovereignty Lets not be silly here, its not trying to become the United States of the CPTPP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 2,581 Posted March 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: You will have to covince all the Sun readers that there is more than Cod. And you left Norfolk just as Norwich got so close to the sea you can fish from your front garden in Thorpe. That's exactly what I was suggesting. Glad you agree it's a worthwhile exercise! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Fever 3,818 Posted March 31, 2023 16 minutes ago, How I Wrote Elastic Man said: Looking at wikipedia there is mention of restrictions of sovereignty on member states of CPTPP I'd need to look at that further to see how much truth, if any, is in that Obviously if there is any truth in it, it's going to annoy those that voted leave to regain sovereignty Its totally irrelevant to most - up until the time when the government gets sued by some corporation for some 'non' compliance or restriction. Anyway - today we've been selling to three of those members. Nowt to do with CPTTP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted March 31, 2023 12 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said: That's exactly what I was suggesting. Glad you agree it's a worthwhile exercise! I did from the start. You must have missed my post when I said I like fish. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,210 Posted March 31, 2023 Badenoch is a stupid idiot. https://news.sky.com/story/trade-secretary-kemi-badenoch-says-palm-oil-is-great-product-after-deal-criticised-for-endangering-orangutans-12846290 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,819 Posted March 31, 2023 21 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said: Badenoch is a stupid idiot. https://news.sky.com/story/trade-secretary-kemi-badenoch-says-palm-oil-is-great-product-after-deal-criticised-for-endangering-orangutans-12846290 We kill orangutans while the Americans are locking their's up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,189 Posted March 31, 2023 1 hour ago, ricardo said: Lets not be silly here, its not trying to become the United States of the CPTPP I didn't say it was. It would be interesting to see what the UK has actually signed up to, rather than what has been reported in the media, in exchange for the 0.1% boost to the economy I guess for the majority of UK citizens it probably means nothing either way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hook's-Walk-Canary 213 Posted March 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, How I Wrote Elastic Man said: It would be interesting to see what the UK has actually signed up to, rather than what has been reported in the media... Glad to help, 'though you failed Rejoiniacs should learn to research -- https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/comprehensive-and-progressive-agreement-for-trans-pacific-partnership-cptpp-benefits-for-the-uk/cptpp-top-10-benefits-for-the-uk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,210 Posted March 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hook's-Walk-Canary said: Glad to help, 'though you failed Rejoiniacs should learn to research -- https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/comprehensive-and-progressive-agreement-for-trans-pacific-partnership-cptpp-benefits-for-the-uk/cptpp-top-10-benefits-for-the-uk Well done, you've found a web site less trustworthy than Guido. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,272 Posted March 31, 2023 Thanks for your input Jools 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,819 Posted March 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Hook's-Walk-Canary said: 👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,189 Posted April 1, 2023 7 hours ago, Hook's-Walk-Canary said: Glad to help, 'though you failed Rejoiniacs should learn to research -- https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/comprehensive-and-progressive-agreement-for-trans-pacific-partnership-cptpp-benefits-for-the-uk/cptpp-top-10-benefits-for-the-uk I've seen that already, thanks anyway It doesn't answer my question Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,819 Posted April 1, 2023 😬 It's Simon Calder time again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benchwarmer 625 Posted April 1, 2023 11 hours ago, Hook's-Walk-Canary said: 👍 Where's the queue for coaches to Dover? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 2,581 Posted April 1, 2023 Looks like the next priority prospect for CPTPP is Taiwan, with which the UK is in pre-negotiation talks for a trade agreement. https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4852147 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,819 Posted April 1, 2023 1 hour ago, benchwarmer said: Where's the queue for coaches to Dover? Who'd have thought that the French authorities applying the rules,we voted for, would cause such trouble? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted April 1, 2023 1 hour ago, littleyellowbirdie said: Looks like the next priority prospect for CPTPP is Taiwan, with which the UK is in pre-negotiation talks for a trade agreement. https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4852147 Well thats China with a bee in its bonnet. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted April 1, 2023 15 hours ago, ricardo said: Lets not be silly here, its not trying to become the United States of the CPTPP Didn't people say "it used to be just the Common Market""? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 2,581 Posted April 1, 2023 It seems there might be a bit of appetite in the US for a UK FTA after all. Quote Chris Coons, the Democratic senator from Delaware and a close ally of US president Joe Biden, introduced legislation on Thursday that would give the president the authority to negotiate a free trade agreement with the UK. https://www.ft.com/content/362f4d28-91dd-4aca-81bb-582287026f5c Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,210 Posted April 1, 2023 Looks like a couple of posters have launched a Youtube channel. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 2,581 Posted April 2, 2023 29 minutes ago, Herman said: If successful journalists like these talk like trolls, it's no wonder the rest of the population follows suit. A more moderate appraisal would be that it's hurting the coach tourism industry and also depriving the EU of tourists. Nobody 'signed up' for it; it's a negative consequence of our departure from the EU where it's in the UK and the EU's interests to resolve it post-Brexit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,819 Posted April 2, 2023 November 22. https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/port-dover-delays-eu-entry-exit-system-b2201037.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,272 Posted April 2, 2023 On 01/04/2023 at 10:11, Herman said: Who'd have thought that the French authorities applying the rules,we voted for, would cause such trouble? And be their fault 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
