The Never-President Trump

[Yellow Fever 3,810]

On 20/04/2024 at 08:06, Wings of a Sparrow said:

On 19/04/2024 at 18:59, Herman said:

Trump by name.....😉

Jesus H Christ. Can you even begin to imagine what a Trump fart might smell like...

I hear the wire cages at Guantanamo well ventilated to air.

[littleyellowbirdie 2,565]

7 hours ago, Iwans Big Toe said:

And this is why no one takes you seriously apart from your leftist loony friends. Your messiah, Joe Biden, was president when the US pulled out of Afghanistan. He left billions of dollars of arms in the hands of the Taliban, not to mention the US and allied citizens. I've explained this to you before, but you don't want to listen, it's why you don't answer me you think by ignoring it makes you intelligent, but it just shows how weak your argument is old boy. So go ahead, don't respond. 

 

Were you aware of the American weapons left behind in Syria when Trump pulled the plug on operations there overnight? Even more were abandoned when Trump pulled the plug on CIA operations to arm Syrian rebels.

Trump's actions were totally counter to US strategic interests. He gave Russia a massive strategic gift when he did that, along with alienating Kurdish allies in the region and leaving weapons behind in the absurdly short timescale.

As for Afghanistan, the terms were negotiated before Biden assumed control. Biden's hands were tied; there's no way he could have persuaded other NATO allies to go along with staying in once it was agreed, plus if he'd have stayed the Republicans would have used it as a simplistic stick to beat the new administration with on their stupid line that Trump had brought 'peace for America' rather than just appeasing Putin, which it looks like and is further reinforced by the way kept all his personal conversations with Putin completely private and off the record.

 

 

Edited April 21 by littleyellowbirdie

[A Load of Squit 5,199]

9 hours ago, Iwans Big Toe said:

And this is why no one takes you seriously apart from your leftist loony friends. Your messiah, Joe Biden, was president when the US pulled out of Afghanistan. He left billions of dollars of arms in the hands of the Taliban, not to mention the US and allied citizens. I've explained this to you before, but you don't want to listen, it's why you don't answer me you think by ignoring it makes you intelligent, but it just shows how weak your argument is old boy. So go ahead, don't respond. 

 

Thank God you're OK, we all thought you'd set yourself on fire outside the court building.

[cambridgeshire canary 6,757]

1 hour ago, littleyellowbirdie said:

Were you aware of the American weapons left behind in Syria when Trump pulled the plug on operations there overnight? Even more were abandoned when Trump pulled the plug on CIA operations to arm Syrian rebels.

Trump's actions were totally counter to US strategic interests. He gave Russia a massive strategic gift when he did that, along with alienating Kurdish allies in the region and leaving weapons behind in the absurdly short timescale.

As for Afghanistan, the terms were negotiated before Biden assumed control. Biden's hands were tied; there's no way he could have persuaded other NATO allies to go along with staying in once it was agreed, plus if he'd have stayed the Republicans would have used it as a simplistic stick to beat the new administration with on their stupid line that Trump had brought 'peace for America' rather than just appeasing Putin, which it looks like and is further reinforced by the way kept all his personal conversations with Putin completely private and off the record.

 

 

A lot of American conservatives and those on the right seem to take the view of "Well Russia is just a real proper conservative country that protects it's people and has none of that gay nonsense either we should be friends to counter China"

 

Which is rather similar to the people who are all "Well we should have allied with the nazis rather than going to war the commies who were the real enemies we should have fought"

Edited April 21 by cambridgeshire canary

[littleyellowbirdie 2,565]

2 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

A lot of American conservatives and those on the right seem to take the view of "Well Russia is just a real proper conservative country that protects it's people and has none of that gay nonsense either we should be friends to counter China"

 

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Russian money is promoting a lot of the crazier ideas under the LGBTQ+ umbrella for that purpose.

[Herman 9,802]

12 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

A lot of American conservatives and those on the right seem to take the view of "Well Russia is just a real proper conservative country that protects it's people and has none of that gay nonsense either we should be friends to counter China"

 

Which is rather similar to the people who are all "Well we should have allied with the nazis rather than going to war the commies who were the real enemies we should have fought"

That was the belief of a large chunk of the British aristocracy.

[horsefly 4,310]

4 hours ago, Herman said:

I think it has been explained well before. Here is another comprehensive explainer if you are interested in the facts. And neither Trump nor Biden come out of it with any credit.

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/

Indeed! Sadly by the time Biden had taken over there US forces were reduced so low there wasn't the remotest chance of preventing a messy exit. At least he delayed withdrawal from the original May date that Trump had guaranteed, giving a few more Afghanis extra time to escape. It was still a very awful episode in US history. What isn't in question is that it was Trump's shameful "America First" unconditional surrender to the Taliban that caused this debacle.

[horsefly 4,310]

Trump in court. Caught in the twilight zone of a senile old codger's sleepy-time, and the haze of his own toxic fart cloud 

 

[Nuff Said 5,153]

Anyone else think the BBC news team are deliberately going for Pecker jokes?

 

[dylanisabaddog 4,956]

[horsefly 4,310]

The Ubermensch in court today 🤣

[littleyellowbirdie 2,565]

He looks like he has aged a lot the last few years.

[horsefly 4,310]

This is brilliant 

 

[cambridgeshire canary 6,757]

On 23/04/2024 at 23:10, littleyellowbirdie said:

He looks like he has aged a lot the last few years.

They all do. Look up presidents before and after.

[horsefly 4,310]

57 minutes ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

They all do. Look up presidents before and after.

Obama is 62 and looks very good for that age. Trump looks about 90 in the pic above.

[horsefly 4,310]

Astonishing and very worrying 

https://x.com/MrPMHarrison/status/1785293203127632171

[dylanisabaddog 4,956]

1 hour ago, horsefly said:

Astonishing and very worrying 

https://x.com/MrPMHarrison/status/1785293203127632171

Blimey. Gosh. 

I can think of 3 regular posters on this side of the forum who will think that's fine. Be afraid.... 

[cambridgeshire canary 6,757]

3 hours ago, horsefly said:

Astonishing and very worrying 

https://x.com/MrPMHarrison/status/1785293203127632171

 

1 hour ago, dylanisabaddog said:

Blimey. Gosh. 

I can think of 3 regular posters on this side of the forum who will think that's fine. Be afraid.... 

Did it end up building a wall while president? Did he "lock her up" as he promised? Did he "drain the swamp" like he said he would or did he make it more swampy than ever?
What Trump says he will do and what Trump will do are two very different things.

[Well b back 3,250]

6 hours ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

 

Did it end up building a wall while president? Did he "lock her up" as he promised? Did he "drain the swamp" like he said he would or did he make it more swampy than ever?
What Trump says he will do and what Trump will do are two very different things.

Says he won’t start WW3, based on your comments do we need to be worried ?

[Herman 9,802]

Everyone should be worried about trump becoming president again, surrounded by stchophants with a legion of tooled up nutters as his support base.

[dylanisabaddog 4,956]

1 hour ago, Herman said:

Everyone should be worried about trump becoming president again, surrounded by stchophants with a legion of tooled up nutters as his support base.

A very small sample I admit but I speak to one person in the USA regularly who still thinks Biden will win because there are so many undecided people at the moment. 

He also says he is afraid of a narrow Biden victory because Trump supporters would burn down the country. He says that having lived there for 40 years, America feels more divided then ever. 

Edited Wednesday at 07:07 by dylanisabaddog

[horsefly 4,310]

15 hours ago, cambridgeshire canary said:

 

Did it end up building a wall while president? Did he "lock her up" as he promised? Did he "drain the swamp" like he said he would or did he make it more swampy than ever?
What Trump says he will do and what Trump will do are two very different things.

Why on earth would anyone take the risk?  He did many things while in power, not the least of which was to praise white supremacists and make racism mainstream again. He would undoubtedly be a threat to world order, abandoning NATO and the Ukraine.

[Creative Midfielder 1,999]

20 minutes ago, horsefly said:

Why on earth would anyone take the risk?  He did many things while in power, not the least of which was to praise white supremacists and make racism mainstream again. He would undoubtedly be a threat to world order, abandoning NATO and the Ukraine.

He is already a clear threat to world order without all the bother of winning an election.