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Angus Gunn on loan?

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[quote user="Hoola Han Solo"]He''s come here, and Manchester City have sanctioned it, because he is guaranteed to be our no. 1 at the start of next season, and absolutely everybody knows it.[/quote]Not so. There are no guarantees in football.  You can''t make another football club select a player.

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It''s Man City Lakey. Thee Man City. Gunn will be number 1 all day long. Rudd''s near 27 and if he was going to have the chance this loan wouldn''t have been sanctioned.

I still think we''re in for a another keeper, selling Rudd and McGovern, keeping Jones and loaning Matthews.

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[quote user="Morgan"]It''s Man City Lakey. [/quote]So what?  They are just another football club, wealth or not.  A goalkeeper who has made just a handful of first team appearances.  He is being allowed out on loan with a view to get experience of holding down a first team place. But it isn''t a given imo.  He has to prove his worth before being given any number one status.  

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[quote user="hogesar"]He''s going to be number one, lakey.[/quote]We may as well give up on this one Hog because LDC will clearly never listen.We could sign Messi tomorrow and LDC would still be claiming he''s not guaranteed to start and would have to really show the manager something special to justify his selection over our existing players...It would be laughable if it wasn''t so utterly ridiculous.

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[quote user="lake district canary"]They are just another football club, wealth or not.  A goalkeeper who has made just a handful of first team appearances.  He is being allowed out on loan with a view to get experience of holding down a first team place. But it isn''t a given imo.  He has to prove his worth before being given any number one status.[/quote]"Can we take Angus on loan?""Only if you make him your first choice""Nah, can''t do that, he''ll have to fight for his place!""You can just f*** off then"[:''(]

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[quote user="lappinitup"][quote user="lake district canary"]They are just another football club, wealth or not.  A goalkeeper who has made just a handful of first team appearances.  He is being allowed out on loan with a view to get experience of holding down a first team place. But it isn''t a given imo.  He has to prove his worth before being given any number one status.[/quote]"Can we take Angus on loan?""Only if you make him your first choice""Nah, can''t do that, he''ll have to fight for his place!""You can just f*** off then"[:''(][/quote]In the same vein, and based on how LDC views it, let''s imagine a conversation on the morning of the first game of the season as the team sheet is put up, and a new signing seems somewhat puzzled:Messi: "How come I''m on the bench Boss?"Farke: "You can''t just expect to sign for us and be guaranteed to play, lads like Jarvis and Wildschut were here first you know"Messi: "But I''ve just left one of the best clubs in the world, have won the Ballon D''Or 4 times and have scored 349 goals in 382 games!!!"Farke: "That may be so, but it''s not how clubs work, we consider all players to be the same until proven otherwise, so don''t be getting any ideas about being the first name on the team sheet, because that''s clearly Russ Martin''s spot if it''s anyone''s - and it isn''t, because clubs don''t have first choice players for positions!"Messi: "Is this a pi$$take or something? Am I being Punk''d???"Farke: "Absolutely not, this is top level football we''re talking about you know, now go and train with Carlton Morris, he might teach you a thing or two until Jarvis gets injured or something..."

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Lol. You lot are ridiculous.  If you think we have "guaranteed" Man City  he will be first choice, you are bonkers. He may start out as favourite for the first team place, but he no-one is number one until they have proved themselves. After all how many league appearances has he made in any competitive league?   Nil.

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Lol. You''re ridiculous. There''s absolutely no way Manchester City would loan out a very promising goalkeeper, who they rate highly, if he was not guaranteed first team minutes, they would have loaned him to someone else instead.

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Harry Kane wasn''t guaranteed a first team place when he was with us.

All players are the same, they are all first team players .............. if they are playing well enough.

There will be plenty of pre-season matches for the manager to make his mind up and I will be surprised if young Angus doesn''t start the first game, but if he cocks up badly for a couple of games, who knows?

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t''s absurd to suggest that any player is "guaranteed a first team place."

It is even more absurd that another club should be in a position to dictate who should be guaranteed such a privilege.

First choice? Yes, but no assurances should ever be involved.

Ridiculous.

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