Dean Coneys boots 1,400 Posted September 29, 2016 Bassong, Martin, Bennet: three player who can be fine for long periods and in comfortable games but they crumble under pressure. Consider last night and the Liverpool self destruct etc etc etc etc Tim Klose needs to be playing but he needs a new CB partner in January (or two) because those three have just been part of a potentially calamitous back line for too long now. They dont have it mentally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoola Han Solo 448 Posted September 29, 2016 How come you haven''t posted during our five wins on the bounce? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,540 Posted September 29, 2016 [quote user="Dean Coneys boots"]Bassong, Martin, Bennet: three player who can be fine for long periods and in comfortable games but they crumble under pressure. Consider last night and the Liverpool self destruct etc etc etc etc Tim Klose needs to be playing but he needs a new CB partner in January (or two) because those three have just been part of a potentially calamitous back line for too long now. They dont have it mentally.[/quote]You''ll get lambasted for saying it by the usuals, but last night it looked bad for the defence from 3-1 up. Got the third goal and switched off for their number two. That was the worst one for me, having just scored themselves. Once that goes in, the tension does the rest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SeattleCanary 0 Posted September 29, 2016 What''s more troubling is that we are leaking goals galore in this league, and we aren''t building a new defense in the event that we do get promoted. We know this defense isn''t good enough and also isn''t improving, so surely we should be using this season to build and replace the tried, tested and failed current line up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buh 0 Posted September 29, 2016 Where has the OP been when we''ve been winningClassic doom monger, change your pants and man up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dean Coneys boots 1,400 Posted September 29, 2016 I posted my congratulations after two of them. Have commented k. many others- but don''t let facts spoil your predictable closing down of debate tactic. Just carry on labelling as pathetic any who don''t share your views without actually dealing with points raised. Really helpful on a message board!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buh 0 Posted September 29, 2016 I''ll debate last night with fans not bad weather tourists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,645 Posted September 29, 2016 We lack leaders in the back line (which worries me as Martin has been captain for a while now) when Klose isn''t involved. It sounded like we were defensively pretty poor most of the night and could have been 3-0 down after 30 minutes, before our implosion at the end. I just have zero faith in those two keeping a team out for 90 minutes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clint 221 Posted September 29, 2016 To be fair, we''ve got a McGovern, Klose and Pinto who are all ''new'' signings. I really don''t think it''s the individuals, they just can''t defend as a cohesive unit, all appear to switch off easily and have a very fragile state of mind. Whoever has played this season (inc Klose) the goals we''ve conceded have been down to dreadful defending rather than quality attacking. I would suggest either a new defensive coach (if we already have one?) and a sports physcologist! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Year of the tiger 54 Posted September 29, 2016 A lot of the problems early on were coming down the left with Olsson being left 2 on 1. Brady was awful again. It probly should have been him replaced but I guess it was experience over youth. Killer goal was 2nd &that was totally Bassong. Yes we should have signed a new cb in the summer & undoubably would have if we could have gotrid of Bassong or Turner but read the threads back at the end of the window. Just imagine the reaction if we had signed a cb before a striker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vlad666 203 Posted September 29, 2016 Could have easily conceded 8 last night. Bassong should never play professional football again and martins not far off that. Chipped balls in behind the slow centre backs is something that should only work at school level. Embarrassing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray 111 Posted September 29, 2016 I agree the back 4 came under some excess pressure last night, however they are not the sole source of defending, maybe we should ask why they were put under so much pressure.I''m not saying the back 4 are blameless but defending isn''t the sole responsibility of the defence. I''d rather say the keeper had nothing to do all game than he had a blinder, fire enough shots at him and he will eventually miss one, is that his fault solely or in this example would the defenders should some of the blame? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CJ 0 Posted September 29, 2016 I could understand that when pressing for goals but at three one up why oh why not just play safe and stay a few yards behind attackers ie defend in depth! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCFC198 2 Posted September 29, 2016 Let’s face it, in the league we have hardly defended well in any games this season. In fact the defence has carried on from where it left off last season. We are vulnerable and don’t know how to defend, we don’t know who Klose’s best partner is. He’s struggled with the physicality of this league and the bustling centre forwards. Full backs are great going forward but not sure how much impact this has on the pressure the CB’s and holding midfielder come under. We don’t defend as a unit. McGovern makes some good save but is weak at other key moment. Bassong, Bennett and Martin are flawed at this club, no combination of the three has worked. They are stagnated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkngood 1,087 Posted September 29, 2016 Bassong is only here because we can not get rid of him I am Not a AN fan but he can only play the fit players he has he had replacements for CB lined up but without shifting players he had no money Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Poirot 1 Posted September 29, 2016 To be fair, name two rock solid centre backs we''ve had I the last 30 years? Aside from Andy Linighan, we''ve always had defenders prone to shocking errors every now and then. This defence is no better or worse than what we''ve had over the years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Year of the tiger 54 Posted September 29, 2016 [quote user="NCFC198"]Let’s face it, in the league we have hardly defended well in any games this season. In fact the defence has carried on from where it left off last season. We are vulnerable and don’t know how to defend, we don’t know who Klose’s best partner is. He’s struggled with the physicality of this league and the bustling centre forwards. Full backs are great going forward but not sure how much impact this has on the pressure the CB’s and holding midfielder come under. We don’t defend as a unit. McGovern makes some good save but is weak at other key moment. Bassong, Bennett and Martin are flawed at this club, no combination of the three has worked. They are stagnated.[/quote]Totally agree. Our FBs are good going forward but a bit suspect defensively & are not getting much cover from the widemen ahead of them. Look at last nights first goal, Brady just does not go eith the runner. Jacob is improving but Brady seems to still be in EURO 2016. I don''t know the answer if Klose is out for any length of time perm any 2 from 4 (Turner is still here) Time for Ruddy to return? Maybe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites