Darth Catbeard The Old

Hoolahan is having one of those games. Redmond on soon please! Snodgrass hasn''t been great either. At least our two center mids and Hooper look up for it

Tw4ttenburg living up to his name again

Jackson was a pretty good poacher, but an appalling footballer in every other aspect. If we''d played the majority of this season with him up front on his own instead of RVW/Hooper I''d guess he might be sitting on between 5-8/9 goals but because of his lack of contribution in all other areas besides goal scoring I''d imagine we''d be much worse off right now. Same I think if we''d played Becchio all season although he might be sitting on a few more goals I''d imagine.

He''s never bias for or against a specific team. With Mark Clattenburg it''s all about getting Mark Clattenburg seen/noticed, in his head it''s all about controversy and getting himself in the spotlight, sod the game and the fans. Hate him.

Might as well. Last week gave me new hope for Hughton, he seemed to finally abandon his ''keep it tight, keep it rigid, try to get lucky on the break strategy'' he let the team play and dominate and surprise surfu(kingprise we got a win. This week back to the same old negative sh!t and....look what happened. He could probably be a pretty decent manager if he wasn''t such a negative, defeatist coward. The players probably heard the starting strategy, their heads dropped and just though ''well here we go again'' hence that performance, we can''t afford to have a 19 game season!

Just a confirmed bid would be nice, maybe something derisory like 500k just because WACCOE would turn into the funniest site on the net for a few days

Like I keep saying in every aspect bar his tactical philosophy and match day decision making he is a fantastic manager. Let''s just hope the penny FINALLY dropped after yesterday that against teams outside the top 8 we need to enforce our own gameplan, make them worry about us, have some creative freedom with a more fluid formation. If we dominate possession and keep the ball in their half we can afford to have Wes and 2 strikers because we''re not constantly getting battered all game like we do when we sit off. So yea, let''s hope he finally gets it

Really good manager outside the top flight and a lovely guy. I wish him nothing but success

I''m not a ''Hoots hater'' I''m a massive hater of his usual tactical approach and I will never, ever accept it. For the first half we set up how I''ve been crying out for us to all season and look what happened! If Hughton was to abandon his usual negative, stifling, rigid, backwards, soul destroying, detrimental dog sh!t style and set us up to play positively and to our own strengths most games I''d have no problem supporting him and wanting him to stay. I just don''t get why he doesn''t see setting us up to play to our strengths, a high tempo pressing game, with quick breaks, lots of movement and giving a few players freedom is so much better than his usual approach.

Why have we set up so deep and negative again!?.....ffs

Hughton''s usual negative rigid backwards awful restricting dogsh!t tactical approach OUT This balanced, energetic, effective, solid and at the same time'' chance creating'' gameplan today and Hughton if he uses it from now on IN! The team can do it! It just again proves how much we''ve under performed this season and shows we''ve gained points in spite of the usual approach not because of it ...HUGHTON PLEASE REALISE THIS!!!!!

Brilliant half, we finally employ the tactics the fans have been crying out for all season, we have a game plan to suit us to dominate the game instead of one to stifle them and slowly counter attack and look what happens!!! Also what was wrong with Tettey at the end? You''d think he''d be over the moon not crying?

You are aware this is by the managers design right? We don''t do stretching teams or quick attacks, it''s all about keeping our shape to avoid being caught on the break. This is why we don''t create enough chances....and it also doesn''t really keep the goal tally down much either. I really wish Hughton would change his whole philosophy, I bet he''s brilliant in a lot of aspects, just his tactical approach and match day decision making are staggeringly nonsensical and inept. West Brom last year and Stoke away this year for example we pressed all over the pitch effectively and attacked quickly with freedom (I know I''m really over simplifying it) and look what happened! Games like Cardiff we were on top but were still playing the typical predictable rigid Hughton way and despite having a lot of possesion couldn''t break them down, nearly didn''t break Hull down the same way etc. I just find it baffling Hughton continues with this approach when it''s so obvious it''s extremely detrimental. I just don''t get it!!!!

[quote user="lake district canary"]Protest? About what? Because we''re in a relegation battle and struggling for form? So are eight other clubs by my reckoning, almost half the table. Its called the pressure of being in the top league. We''re not Southampton. We''re not even Villa, in terms of resources. We''re also not cut off at the bottom without a hope. We also have the games to stay clear. Have your protest, but as Lincoln says - its embarrassing. Change will happen when its meant to happen - and right now we have a league to stay in. [/quote] I agree the protest is stupid but for probably the 900000th time people are unhappy with Hughton mostly for his tactical approach not just because of our league position. I''m so sick of people criticism Norwich fans over our views on Hughton and wheeling out the whole expectations are too high BS! We''re fed up with going into every game in such a negative defeatist way, always surrendering possession, standing off, letting the opposition play, allowing ourselves to be dictated and dominated while at the same time having no gameplan of our own, being structured in a way that makes it so difficult to even string 3 forward passes together etc Not to mention this utterly moronic tactic of building up play as slowly as possible to give us the smallest chance possible of creating a goal scoring opportunity. If our team was being utilized to it''s potential, if we were set up in a way that gave us a chance of creating clear cut chances and if the players had confidence and belief instilled into them by the management you wouldn''t find many moaning about our league position

Oh and the London club media bias.

When an advantage is played instead of a free kick and the team that got the advantage usually gets a very soft decision in the next few seconds anyway. Happens all the time and it irritates the crap out of me!

Agreed. Him and Bowkett were almost as important to our revival as Lambert, Holt and Hoolahan. Lambert was determined to leave at the first opportunity (Remember Burnley and West Ham?) they can''t be blamed for that. Not many managers would have kept us up last season as painful as it was to watch so Hughton was initially the right call. Holt like Lambert was determined to go back up north, again they did the best they could possibly do and they''ve kept Hoolahan for now. Leaving Hughton in charge too long was their first real mistake but I still think we have some of the most competent people running our club in English football! Talk of sacking them is unbelievable

Sunderland play decent football, we can''t let them dominate possession as we''ll end up retreating and letting them walk all over us. So 5 in midfield for me. Ruddy Martin Yobo Bassong Ollson Johnson Tetty Snodgrass Howson Redmond RVW Get right at them from the start, high tempo, pressing very high and get that early goal!!!! For me, screw all the anti Hughton stuff at the games from now on, I want him gone as much as anyone and I doubt he''l set the team up to play as I described but these next 2 months are so important we just can''t afford to get in a slump and poisoning the atmosphere. Although to be honest I can only see us getting a draw here

No thanks and I would have said the same thing even before he became Man Utd boss. He plays the same turgid style of football as Hughton, it just worked better at Everton because he had better players to work with. Hasn''t won anything either in 10 and a half seasons at 2 big clubs either, very average manager!

Speaking of the future, I am worried we''re losing a generation of fans at the moment because the stadiums too small and as a kid, would you rather support a Man City/Arsenal or what they would perceive to be a negative boring team at the moment? I know I''d have probably stayed an Arsenal fan if my dad never took me to Carrow Road a few times when I was 9, as it is now you can''t just turn up to the odd game, it''s either too expensive or there''s no seats. Firstly we need a manager with a less pointless, needlessly negative defeatist tactical strategy to make us less of a chore to watch and more competative on a game by game basis and we really need to look into expanding the stadium sometime soon!

We set up only to contain Southampton and to keep a clean sheet, our entire focus and gameplan was designed around that...we conceded 4! Another catastrophic failure. Hughton isn''t the worst manager we''ve ever had, but he has by far the worst, most cowardly and most soul destroying tactical philosophy of any manager we''ve ever had.

And we''re still all camped in our own half, standing off, letting the game pass us by....I''m just lost for words

FFS already look how deep the midfield has started. This is pathetic, there''s cautious and then there''s down right defeatist and cowardly

[quote user="jas the barclay king"][quote user="Darth Catbeard The Old"]Who''s this co commentator today btw? He actually knows what he''s talking about with us, it makes a refreshing change from the utter sh!t Gary Birtles normally comes out with![/quote]first player to score 4 in a premier league game, First player to score a European goal for Norwich city, a Nigerian Prince...Efan Ekoku... decent pundit too.[/quote] Thanks, thought he might be an ex player but didn''t recognize his voice. Also 1-0 down and we''re still playing 8-1-1? THIS is why fans are so fed up with the tactics, yes the defensive lapse in the 5th minute wasn''t Hughtons fault but once we concede playing this way we''re done for. We''ll also never be able to afford a defence that doesn''t make mistakes. I HATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this gameplan so much!

Who''s this co commentator today btw? He actually knows what he''s talking about with us, it makes a refreshing change from the utter sh!t Gary Birtles normally comes out with!