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Presumably he has gone back to selling antiques?

Debate and information. That''s my opinion. Bang a drum if you like but don''t lose the thread of the particular subject being discussed. Take the thread below, "how many non-footballing staff do we really need"? which rasies a stats-based question. So far so good. A couple of decent repsonses and then we stray down the depressingly dull avenues of a) repeating what each other says over and over again and b) moving away from the original point , or repeating the answer or even the flippin'' question!!! Mystic begins. 7rew enters and the ever present Blah gets in and we''re off. Ignoring Megsons flippant approach chunky bly and Alex chime in. A good promising debate about what info is included is underway. By the end of page 1 we are still on course. Then we start to argue about the commitment of the board by supporting the non-footballing side (another issue altogether) and then shack attack says people that read the accounts are boring. A genius post from yours truly is completely ignored as the argument is now well under way, as Megson realises that we don''t have 71 players, Mello hits the front with some crack at Shack and BB says we should talk about football.(BB you could actually stick that on all of the posts if you think it will help)  BB then goes on to make the same point as I did a few posts ago about company cars. The point is then completely lost as posters continually cut and paste previous comments and argue with them. Result? A three page post, which ends up repeating itself.  Shack finaly gets down to some serious typing by asking the same damn question (what constitutes non-playing staff?) that has been asked three times already, and we are no further forward...blimey.....I''m off for a lay down.

Not wishing to be a smart arse BB but I made that point on this very thread a few days ago. Scroll back and have a look? GPB

before you can compare you need to know 1. exactly who is under the "football" catagory (at 71 it must include coaches, colney, manager etc?) 2. whether part time catering staff are included and if so does who counts as 1...is it two people that work half a day each or whatever. It could just be that part time are counted differently and the club has changed its policy on employment? On other specifc posts here.. On Iwans point re staff, I do remember the catering staff all changing at Colney when we wnet up. that was a the same time that Worthy banged the table up there about Academey parents not eating in the main dining hall, and generally got carried away with it all. It also coincided with a sponsored deal with Mccains who think re furbished the kitchens at the time.  Remember when Chase left and the accounts were scrutinised? There were 100''s of people at the club and , if I remember rightly, loads of company cars. The increase in the ground is a good point. South Stand and NU Corner infill must increase the Catering / kiosk people a bit? As a member of the Gunn Club, it presumably means that there will still be one person serving you at the bar as the other three are replacing the Wherry that has just run out.  

Quoted today saying he will be England Keeper because Robinson et al are "not that special". Is the bloke as stupid as he looks? After his tantrum at Carrow Road this year I think he probably is...... http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=nonwire_soccer/07/06/07/manual_120317.html&TEAMHD=soccer

Blimey Bly I hope you are right....if you are I will personally hunt you down and buy you a pint of Wherry!

Cripes. Without any doubt you have hit the proverbial on the head my Verdigree friend. Had I have known Jonah was in the Carrot I would have immediately returned to Europa Way and the Beardmobile. Last time I saw Daryl he was with his family at Sheringham swimming baths. DS looked a little dissapointed that no one was asking for his autograph. Instead I , like many others, in panic grabbed my offspring and headed for the door half naked, expecting the roof to cave in at any moment as of course it did on so many occassions (metaphorically) when he played. Daryl truly is the luckiest man ever to have "professional footballer" on his passport.    

Ah, Green my Dear Boy. At last someone who has nibbled at the bait. The thread just doesnt seem to have caught the imagination at all, and I thought that Delia and her love of the Grape would have invoked some debate. Alas no. It seems that most on here would rather talk about whether or not someone called Wizzer and Chips, or Plastic Chicken,  should (or shouldn''t) be allowed to have the inalienable right  of every man (or women) to express himself (or herself) and in doing so rid himself (or herself) ... sorry where was I.?

I for one applaud this signing. I also agree with Delia in her other quote on the subject when speaking in the Gunn Club last saturday "I hope that thish will proove once and for all (hic) that I love thish club. How dare you, I  have never touched a drop in my life other than for medish, mercic, medishun, health reasons. Aint that right Micheal? (hic) Do you think the b***ards can hear me?"

Ryan Jarvis stood in the Gunn club on saturday with a tea cosy on his head. Not really relevant I know but worth a post.  

Yankee, this is utterly pointless. Surely the purpose of a message board is to debate issues, not talk about the board itself? Prefer to see proper debate about the finances, the playing staff, decent gossip and rumour, where the next win is coming from and so on. Who cares about Cluck or Wiz or Freddie the Nutcase? I dont. (funny how the guy has got under your skin though!)

Curious. A subject avoided on here. Maybe for reasons of blind loyalty. Maybe for fear of getting the wrath of Eversheds from Ms Smiths Legal team . We are sinking fast. So is the Red Wine Delia. Where are you? asked the comedically tipsy Ms Smith. "Where is the money?" we cheerfully reply. After three years of extraordinary money (premership plus parachute) we find ourselves outbid by Derby County. 17th, crap squad, novice manager, falling demand in the shop, bigger debt. Prudence with Ambition. Another glass of Chateau Sainsbury''s Ms Smith.? Why not. It might help us both forget.....    

Nope. Wrong. Ferguson hasn''t "frequently" berated the fans. Certainly not since the Takeover. Check your facts my friend

Cluck I must say grateful for your most incisive contribution. Interesting how only after a few hours I am relegated to the second page . Sadly not one of the regular contributors, and as such don''t attract the usual banal witterings. This club is on the slippery slope unless people like us get together..... 

Curbishly would never criticise the supporters. Neither would Rednap, Ferguson, Wenger. That''s the whole point Tom.  

This board is good at management speak. "Prudence with ambition" is their strapline. Well when will they admit that it hasn''t worked? We are 13th this morning. Look around us in the league? How many clubs have had the money that we have had during the last three years, and next year when it all dries up we will be in the same division as Colchester. Any  improvements (South Stand) will have been funded by Debt and the sale of land. How on earth can any of this be a success for "prudence with ambition"? And I seriously fear that Mr Grant will leave us with only one legacy. No Huckerby. So our KPI''s are as follows. 13th in the league. a woeful squad. An inexperienced manager, openly criticising the supporters. (on a three and a half year deal) Larger debt. Falling gates (next year) Over £35m additional income (inc two parachute payments) gone. No hope of outside investment because the current shareholders have the whole thing tied up Delia. Stop getting pissed up in the Gunn Club and actively find some proper investors. Before it is too late.

He played yesterday. Wont come to City. Couldnt lace Huck''s boots but could probably do a job. Spoken to him a few times. he would go wherever the coin takes him. He isn''t a Magilton man though............. 

Thanks Jules. Very interesting. I think several times in the last few month we could have written the "couldn''t see what we were trying to do" story. Cant see Bruce lasting much longer..... All the best.

I can only hope you are winding us up cluckin after my mention of Howie in my "why it mustn''t be Hunter" thread. A nightmare of cataclysmic proportion. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Interesting. To be a technical bore I think Roxburgh means that Greece man marked not just from dead balls but also in open play. But it does make interesting reading. Remember all of the corners this year at the world cup, with defenders physically holding opponents, in most cases not even looking at the delivery?  Looks like we have Greece to thank for it! Who would I like? I wouldn''t mind Parkin or Tilson. I also wouldn''t mind Big Fat Joe . Imagine a Royle and Rioch double act! I dont think they would join in with the five a sides though.

Any of us with a Football Coaching Badge will have read Martin Hunter''s coaching opinions in the FA Insight magazine. Martin is a "big noise" coaching-wise and true to the style of the FA. Hugely techincal but not really much good. Hunter has spent a lot of time at the FA. He was Assistant Manager and coach at Bradford City, then joined Stoke City and was then recruited to The FA as "Regional Director of Coaching". Anyone remember another successful manager that has emerged from this environment having come out of the pro game? No neither can I. . Howard Wilkinson ended up at the FA, never to be seen again.   Hunter became a National Coach after assisting with the U15s and U16s He took a team of England under 20''s to a tournament in Toulon and finished fourth. And so to my point. MH has absolutely NO PRACTICAL experience at managing a team like ours. You can see this with the nonsense that has become "zonal marking" from set pieces. I bet they spent hours on this at Colney. Hours of persuading footballers that this was right. See the last minute goal against Palace (and indeed the two kicked off the line before that) to realise it doesnt work. Did you see ANY TEAM IN THE WORLD CUP employ this tactic? No. All physical touch tight man for man marking at Corners. I was gutted when he came to Norwich. We needed a real experienced "been there seen that" coach. We all know the climate at Colney at the time was a series of yes men, with Hunter slipping straight into the mold. Ask Steve Foley about it now and you will get the truth. I watched them eat lunch at Colney and Worthy sat in the middle like Dumbledore. Livermore cleared the plates away. Worthy has walked away with a fortune because he needed to pay the School fees at Greshams (fees start at around £16K) and wasnt man enough to resign. So we have a financial legacy. Please Delia dont burden us with another legacy of incompetence by keeping Worthy''s ludicrous henchmen.

Very good post Rude Old Chap. To recap : Scenario 1. We lose the next two. Worthy sacked. Take Hillman Hunter with him, and hopefully room in the car for Livermore (and his bag of balls) and Webb. Actually could take Ricky Martin too. This works IF the board have already made their minds up, and have a replacement in mind. Frankly I doubt it. Scenario 2. We win the next two. Delia smiles because she believes her statement has made the difference. Worthy stays. We get relegated. I will henceforth call this the "Nightmare Scenario" Scenario 3. We draw. All sides see this as success. Nigel claims "lots of positives", Delia cites "improvement". Worthy stays. See earlier "Nightmare Scenario" So. Quite unbelieveably, for the good of the future of the Club , we have to lose the next two games. We may get away with a bloody good thumping againt Burnley. Even so Delia has left herself in a ridiculous situation. She may as well have sacked him now. Unless she has already spoken with Worthy and all of this is a ruse to give him a few days to walk. In which case I take it all back. P.S. I FEAR that Hillman may be given the job. That would be it for me and my whole family plus four gunn club tickets, around £1400 (plus overpriced sausage and chips each week.)  

Hopefully, Yes.

Spot on Old Boy. You could actually delete the words "Clive Clarke" from the pink un story and insert one of a dozen "didnt quite make it", "injury depleted season" and  "utility" players names that we have previously been introduced to before a lame season.   Personally I would prefer Clive Dunn.  

At least some things never change.......................