Captain Obvious

If I am being perfectly honest, as long as a player isn''t taking a drug to enhance performance and is only doing it recreationally outside of football, I don''t see what the problem is.What makes smoking pot recreationally any worse than drinking recreationally? Nothing!Of course it''s a different story if a player is hooked on something more sinister (coke/crack, heroin, alcohol) and its ruining them!The problem is, most people''s knowledge on such substances comes almost entirely from the popular media which makes most peoples opinions rather ill-informed.If it''s not effecting their football, whats the problem?

I''m in Cheltenham, but I really don''t know of any fan clubs here....Sometimes I think I''m the only Norwich fan in Gloucestershire

Everyone knows he''s capable, just look at him when he played against Chelsea, he was fast, strong and good going forward, Grant is right,he has the skillto be a prem player, but he only uses it when he can be bothered...

I doubt Man U would swoop in and buy him just yet....he''s only scored 5 goals!Maybe if he performs consistantly for the remainder of this season and the next one, then there might be interest....Chris Martin = The next Theo Walcott? Wayne Rooney? .....maybe!....maybe not....

took me a bit longer than 30 seconds....that defender and that striker gave me some trouble....got there in the end though..

[quote user="Matt"]Fox soccer tv working a treat.......just thinking about sending in my $39.99 for the incredible infrared oven and duel speed chopper!   [/quote]ROFL!I saw that too! I think they just show adverts early in the morning like alot o satalite channels do over here, because at time of writing, its still only 7am there.PS Arsenal v Blackburn is very watchable! I expect our game to be just the same

It''s going to be really odd watching a Norwich match with American commentaryBe kinda like the Superbowl but instead the "FA SuperMegaBowl CXXXV" ....or maybe not

just go to the site and watch Fox Soccer Channel

No need to go over the pond, you can watch it live streaming online..its on ESPN too...www.Streamick.com has everything you need and its legal too! (so they claim)

[quote user="Rupethebear"]Good idea, any shirt would be better than the last few away shirts, green and now white, it''s time we got a decent kit manufacture. What happened to the good old days of Mitre when our merchandise was worth buying, the club shop is full of cxxp. Many smaller clubs get deals with companies like Puma who design gear fans want to buy. OK so our margin wouldn''t be as good but the turnover would increase etc etc. [/quote]If our kit is as bad as you say, then why were we contenders for an award for our kit design?and besides, Xara make kits in decent sizes - if it were someone like Nike or Puma, you''d have to be the size of a mosquito to fit in even the XXL sizes!

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I just read on the BBC website that a new deal has been struck between the Premier League, Sky and Setanta Sports worth £1.7bn!This would mean that the team winning the premiership would get £50m more than they do now and those finishing bottom will get £30m! on the whole, every prem team will get a 65% increase on thier normal TV revenue.Am i right in thinking this can only be a bad thing for lower league football? this is only going to increase the finance gap further, making it harder to stay in the premiership.A season in the premiership is then going to be worth £50m+ for every club, while a championship season is still only worth around £1m,something has to be done to increase revenue for clubs in the football league, but no one really seems to care...

I don''t know what anyone else thinks about the ridiculous wages being paid to Beckham from the MLS side, but I think its massivley excessive!What really confuses me is that the MLS isn''t exactly the Premiership or Serie A, so how can a team from a second-rate league afford to pay him nearly £500k a week?? Thats at least 3 times as much as any player in a european league...

too right! i think the football league should demand more money from Sky, or try and get other companies involved to try and push prices up.... i always wondered what might have happened if ITV Digital never went under....would this gap between the top 2 divisions still be there..? would the quality of football in this divison be higher? would a championship team spending more than £1m on a player be commonplace rather than alot of chapionship sides struggling to buy players for less than £500k? I do feel though that Granada should have been made to compensate the league for its losses when ITV Digital went under, especially considering it owned them...

to reference a point made in another post... isn''t everyone forgetting that we''re getting this guy rather cheap, leaving money available to buy good players for things such as the right midfield.plus, this is probably just a smokescreen anyway...

its quite cool, norwich are the only second-tier team to have a player in the england squad

the left-back and right-back are the wrong way round....that confused me for a bit...

Xara sizes are actually pretty fair compared to other companies...especially nike! thier XXL is everyone elses XS....

[quote user="Forces2Canaries"]I would like to, if I may, take you back in excess of 13 years to the 21 August 2003, our third from last visit to Elland Road. Under the management of Mike Walker, Norwich travelled to Yorkshire having finished 3rd in The Premiership the season before, the highest position that Norwich have attained in top flight football.   Because of their finishing position in the inaugural season of The Premiership, Norwich for the first time in their history, were to experience competitive European football at Carrow Road, which was to see the likes of Van der Gouw, Vermeulen, Cocu, Ziege, Nerlinger, Zenga, Bergkamp and Sosa on the hallowed turf.   However, on the balmy summer day in August, Norwich had not yet kicked a ball in European anger. The team travelled to Elland Road with a team of players that had pushed hard not to drop out of the top three of the Premiership the season before, a feat achieved by playing confident, attractive football – being led by a manger that had a deep sense of honesty and who stated the facts to the media as he saw them, not buttering them up to make himself and the team look better.   The team consisted of players that had been brought to the club on a budget, however the manager pooled them together as one and they displayed passion and a get up and go that made a Norwich fan proud to follow his team. Many outside Norwich had never heard of the players that were proud to don the yellow and green of Norwich City, however within two months of the performance at Elland Road, many of the players in the Norwich side were to become household names after their heroic antics in the Olympic Stadium by becoming the first and still the only British side to beat Bayern Munich on their home ground.   Back at Elland Road, and City took to the park, with Mike Walker fielding players whose names now figure in Norwich history, with Bryan Gunn in goal, Ian Culverhouse and Mark Bowen in defence, Jerry Goss, Ian Crook and Rob Newman in midfield with Mark Robins, Ruel Fox and Chris Sutton figuring up front. It was a match that was to emphasise the passing and dedicated football that Mike Walker had ensconced in the team. In front of a crowd of just over 32000 supporters, Norwich beat Leeds 4-0 with two goals from Ruel Fox, and goals from Chris Sutton and Jerry Goss, showing the distinction that made Norwich City the team that the BBC chose to follow in their coverage of the UEFA Cup.   Mike Walker had joined Norwich as Manager, working his way up through the management structure with Norwich, having joined the youth team setup after managing and being knocked back by Colchester United. His style of football was honest and brought out the best in the City team. Players were encouraged to run at the opposition, play the ball on the floor and pass intelligently leaving attacking players to make forward runs. The team were able to hold their heads high, even after losing during the season to such opposition as Manchester United, Arsenal, Oldham and QPR, knowing that they would get the encouragement from Mr Walker and his sidekick, John Deehan. Fans could relish entertaining, constructive football, played with a zest for the game, even in defeat City supporters could walk tall, knowing their team had been committed to the game.   You may wonder where all this is leading? You may think that I wish to see the return of Mike Walker at Carrow Road. Fortunately, you couldn’t be any further from the mark. What I am trying to iterate is what Norwich City can achieve when they have an honest manager in charge, who wants his team to play smart, passionate football.   The current league position that Norwich find themselves in is not the point in question. Norwich have not played football this season, we have always been second best in the 2005-06 season, being slow to start and our style of play is more at home on a rugby pitch than on a football pitch, with Eddie Wearing’s commentary of ‘Up and Under’ being more relevant than that of Roy Waller’s. We have no passion, no confidence, no panache and no morale. We could go on and win every game between now and the end of the season, but if the below standard style of play continues then I will persist in the call for Mr Worthington to go.   Our management team reached its sell by date during September of last year, and they have now well exceeded their use by date. We need fresh ideas, passionate thoughts and a manager who is not afraid to try new ideas, not keep continuing to drive a square peg into a round hole.   However, whilst I will continue to call for the removal of Mr Worthington, I will not lower my standards and wish that the team I have supported for the best part of thirty years will lose just to fulfil my needs and those of the other fans that wish Mr Worthington to go.   I am a Norwich City supporter and I am proud. I want to see my team play well and win well. I will continue to support my team vocally, alongside those who wish to keep Mr Worthington in a job for the foreseeable future. For me, as I have said before, the results are not the issue; the league position is not a problem.   The problem is that the current management team under the direction of Mr Worthington has killed what Norwich were good at, We were renowned for our passing, ball on the ground style of play, a style of play that has seen the ’59 FA Cup run, the ’71-’72 Promotion, the ’85 Milk Cup Final, the ’92-’93 UEFA Cup run and the ’03-’04 Championship, a style of play that is no longer in existence within Norwich City.   Our passion, confidence, panache and moral have been decimated in just short of 18 months, and enough is enough. It is time for a change before things get even worse. [/quote]i do have to make a slightly pedantic correction there....Norwich are not the only BRITISH team to have beaten Bayen Munich at the olympic stadium, but we are the only English team to have done (Britain = England, Wales and Scotland)...there have been one or two scottish teams who''ve done it...

[quote user="Silver Canary"]My prediction - the crowd boo Worthy for the whole game - we lose - Worthy sacked! We could make it happen if only we showed some passion! Its time to get off the fence - if you care about the club, boo don''t cheer - its the only thing the board will understand![/quote]is this guy serious...?? [^o)]

Team Line-ups from Canary''s site:-Norwich City: Green, Shackell, Fleming, Huckerby, Earnshaw, McKenzie, Charlton, Hughes, McVeigh, Doherty, Robinson. Subs: Gallacher (GK), Johansson, Etuhu, Henderson, Colin. Stoke City: Simonsen, Broomes, Duberry, Hill, Bangoura, Russell, Junior, Chadwick, Skoko, Buxton, Gallagher. Subs: De Hoey (GK), Sweeney, Kopteff, Wilkinson, Rooney. Safri hasn''t recovered, Shackell is in for Rehman (who has failed to make todays squad) and McKenzie is starting alongside Earnshaw

its an interesting point....there are several points of view to consider here; obviously a player is a person with thier own views and opinions, edworthy and jarretts opinions might not have coincided with worthy''s which might explain why they aren''t playing for us now but a vast majority might be perfectly happy...OR the Norwich PR team might largely stifle negative opinion from the players to make everything seem rosy for the average fan, but there isn''t a great deal of evidence for either theory; so discussion into such things is pure conjecture.

was that an acyual qupte from football factory because i don''t remember that

I hope the mods allow this onto the Norwich city discussion board rather than the genral discussion board because its oh so relevant at the moment,this site characturises every type of personality your likely to encounter in message board arguments....Flame Warriors

[quote user="pete"]The number of so called City supporters prepared to accept sub standard football is extremely worrying.  Did you see City take on Bayern Munich or Inter Milan, a team of journeyman and youngsters who produced exciting football.  Not seen much since this vintage. Are you really prepared for the mediocrity of the last 5 years for perhaps a season''s flirtation with the Big Boys or maybe you don''t recognise or appreciate good football. [/quote]Of course i would like to see good and exciting football at carrow road, but to expect nothing less than that is extemely unrealistic. I''m not sure i understand the point you''re trying to make here - are you saying we should sack worthy because we would definately get back to our glory days with someone else?or are you slating our current squad because they can''t produce the same kind of football that was being produced when we were leading the premiership?