Delias Love Child 0 Posted February 8, 2014 20 minutes into the Liverpool v Arsenal game and Arsenal have 58% possession to Liverpools 42%. Yet Liverpool are winning 4-0..... Who says stats mean anything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yobocop 1,098 Posted February 8, 2014 What''s your point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Houston Canary 0 Posted February 8, 2014 That possession is never ever indicative of anything, I guess. A rather pointless rant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daz 70 Posted February 8, 2014 its not like we score goals OR have that much possession anyway ! lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 936 Posted February 8, 2014 Ominous - one PL team in yellow getting a tonking today, will there be another? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Delias Love Child 0 Posted February 8, 2014 Arsenal had 60% possession in the game. They''re unlucky. They should have had more out of this game.... yadda yadda yadda. It just makes me chortle that people use stats as a weapon and yet they show nothing.... Just like all our shots we had last week.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Delias Love Child 0 Posted February 8, 2014 [quote user="Making Plans"]Ominous - one PL team in yellow getting a tonking today, will there be another?[/quote]The ironic part is that voodoo like this is probably statistically more accurate than assessment by stats!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unhinged Canary 375 Posted February 8, 2014 As if Citeh needed any more encouragement....Cheers Scousers......[:''(]5-0 now.....[:O] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yobocop 1,098 Posted February 9, 2014 I get what the OP is saying, I''m just struggling to see why he felt the need to make the point or indeed what point he was making in terms of Norwich City.Just seemed like another feeble attempt to have a dig.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 2,407 Posted February 9, 2014 You could also argue we are on a par with Arsenal given we both had the same score at Anfield (and maybe better ''cos our goal came from open play). Statistics, lies etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Delias Love Child 0 Posted February 9, 2014 [quote user="refjezdavies"]I get what the OP is saying, I''m just struggling to see why he felt the need to make the point or indeed what point he was making in terms of Norwich City.Just seemed like another feeble attempt to have a dig....[/quote]Sorry it doesn''t fit into what you consider a good post. It was merely highlighting the feeble attempts of people to use stats as a weapon or stick to put across a point. Whether it''s the inners using the 36 shots as a sign we should have won or the outers using the lack of possession in a game we win, i''m just saying Stats are Bull. They mean nothing. And at that point the stats from the Arsenal game came up and showed they had the majority possession yet were 4-0 down.... I suggest the only feeble thing here is your attempt to read into something that isn''t there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Delias Love Child 0 Posted February 9, 2014 [quote user="refjezdavies"]I get what the OP is saying, I''m just struggling to see why he felt the need to make the point or indeed what point he was making in terms of Norwich City.Just seemed like another feeble attempt to have a dig....[/quote]Sorry it doesn''t fit into what you consider a good post. It was merely highlighting the feeble attempts of people to use stats as a weapon or stick to put across a point. Whether it''s the inners using the 36 shots as a sign we should have won or the outers using the lack of possession in a game we win, i''m just saying Stats are Bull. They mean nothing. And at that point the stats from the Arsenal game came up and showed they had the majority possession yet were 4-0 down.... I suggest the only feeble thing here is your attempt to read into something that isn''t there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
!M.u.s.t.a.r.d_M.a.t.t.e.r.s! 0 Posted February 9, 2014 [quote user="ncfctilidie1080"][quote user="refjezdavies"]I get what the OP is saying, I''m just struggling to see why he felt the need to make the point or indeed what point he was making in terms of Norwich City.Just seemed like another feeble attempt to have a dig....[/quote]Sorry it doesn''t fit into what you consider a good post. It was merely highlighting the feeble attempts of people to use stats as a weapon or stick to put across a point. Whether it''s the inners using the 36 shots as a sign we should have won or the outers using the lack of possession in a game we win, i''m just saying Stats are Bull. They mean nothing. And at that point the stats from the Arsenal game came up and showed they had the majority possession yet were 4-0 down.... I suggest the only feeble thing here is your attempt to read into something that isn''t there. [/quote]It is not the stats that are the problem - its the distortion, selection, misintrepretation etc. They are often used by those having little understanding to persuade those equally in the dark. Without qualification, many stats are, as you say, Bull.I agree with you that stats on possession are pretty well meaningless in the way they are used at the moment. Possession stats in the final third could be useful, though, especially when combined with shots on goal versus goals scored - even they would not be useful by themselves unless compared with other teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drurys testamonials V 15 0 Posted February 9, 2014 The only stat to be truly meaningful is the 1 at the end of the game i.e. the result. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T 190 Posted February 9, 2014 It''s not stats that are a problem per se but the lack of education ans intellect do understand them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites