koimatsuba 0 Posted October 29, 2008 Hi AllI''ve been posting on here for about 4+ years now, yes I''ve been negative and positive, seen promotion and doom and gloom.Lately it seems that everyone is in the same boat as myself, I go to see City and shout my head off for the cause (Upper Barclay) and nearly every game (except the fluke of Wolves, although wolves had lost two b4 playing us) I ethier get really frustrated or just sit there and laugh to myself when the other team scores.Its like I have come to accept that we are now doomed to this league or even a fight to stay in this league year after year, No money left, hardly any ground for NCFC to sell off to try to keep the det at bay each year, no assests left except Marshall in Goal to be able to sell. Nothing!!! Just a muddly and wet slippery slope that seems to be getting wetter each year, each year after the Prem is getting worse. Before the Prem we had a plan to get out of the championship (1st Div) we finished in the top 10 and pushed for a play-off spot each year, until like wolves, reading, Sheffield Utd we pushed that little bit more and won the league.What I''m trying to say is that there seems to be a lack of postings on this website/forum now, is this because people feel the same already about this season, fed-up, cheesed off, OR have they come to the feeling or fact that this is the best we can do in our current financial climate and have accepted it.People moan at Roeder, but who else will come to Norwich in the state we are in? Where can we buy a strike like Lita, or can we find 1 million? Why are we skint year after year? I thought the board had addressed the money issues/wages/staff levels. What happens if the crowds dissapear down to below 20k each game? Less revenue? What happens if the banks call in the loans in the credit crunch? Its all what if ...I know this post looks negative and I am the first to shout at the players on the pitch for lack of passion and to clap when we play well, but unless something like a Cullum (yes him again but its 20 million!!! + his mass fortune) we WILL become a Luton or Bradford or an another club that disappears and will take more than the 9 years last time to rejoin the elite.Was the Prem actually a bad thing? The club seemed better in the years upto the championship than it is now? Did it give us hope each year after that we were better than everyone else in the championship. I can remember the first year we came back down thinking, ''we can beat Stoke surley we can beat them'' (or a similar team) only to lose at home, now if we play a similar team I feel glad to get a point!!!Its all a big mind game and one that I hope gets sorted soon, In the end we just need some MONEY, its a shame but that is what football has become. Like many others its a constant battle that we are currently losing.Cheers All, a long post but hey , had to get it off my chest!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
|BA 0 Posted October 29, 2008 Loans are guaranteed so long as Majority shareholders retain 50%+Not that anything is guaranteed these days but..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooleyfan 0 Posted October 29, 2008 I think it helps us all in the bigger scheme of life to be philosophical about it all...it could have been worse...you could have followed Ipswich Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucky green trainers 0 Posted October 29, 2008 i share your frustrations koi - as do many others no doubt - but clearly naaarwich city are going through a period of transition - we''ve a lame duck board, and until a sale can be successfully arranged, then there''s not much else left to do but go with what we''ve got...many fans pre-season were suggesting we''d likely finish mid-table this season, and our up and down start suggests this is most likely where we''ll end up - i know we''re closer to the bottom that the top at the mo - but imo there is enough improvement in the squad to avoid relegation - and settle comfortably in mid-table, or maybe even higher than that - so expect some decent displays when we can take on a beat the best in this league, but fraid we''ll also struggle for consistency and play like sh*t as well...personally, i''ve written this season off, and i''m looking forward to seeing who the new owner/s will be and hopefully they will be of sufficent claibre to take NCFC back where it belongs,,, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koimatsuba 0 Posted October 30, 2008 [quote user="lucky green trainers"]i share your frustrations koi - as do many others no doubt - but clearly naaarwich city are going through a period of transition - we''ve a lame duck board, and until a sale can be successfully arranged, then there''s not much else left to do but go with what we''ve got...many fans pre-season were suggesting we''d likely finish mid-table this season, and our up and down start suggests this is most likely where we''ll end up - i know we''re closer to the bottom that the top at the mo - but imo there is enough improvement in the squad to avoid relegation - and settle comfortably in mid-table, or maybe even higher than that - so expect some decent displays when we can take on a beat the best in this league, but fraid we''ll also struggle for consistency and play like sh*t as well...personally, i''ve written this season off, and i''m looking forward to seeing who the new owner/s will be and hopefully they will be of sufficent claibre to take NCFC back where it belongs,,,[/quote] Well said, problem is that my friend and I that go to the matches, although we enjoy the day out, it is getting a bit of a joke. Others around me agree and can''t see a way out. A work friend also is becoming confused by it all and just before the wolves game nearlt didn''t bother going to a home game. (he was gald he did after the Wolves Game). Like you said time will tell, and so time and money will also see if I renew my season ticket for the 5th year running. I know you should stick by the team through thick and thin, but I want to be enertained by NCFC. Not bored of the same old same old rubbish!!! I like to play Golf now and again but can''t afford the green fees, I could afford them with the price of a season ticket! I know ....Keep the faith .... I have been, but its wearing thin!Cheers All Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted October 30, 2008 good post koimatsuba.. i agree with some of what you say... particularly regarding the premiership.I posted a few weeks back on here that promotion was actually the worst thing to happen to the club as the board got found out, so did Worthy, it then opened the can of worms and started the slide we find ourselves in now.jas :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beauseant 0 Posted October 30, 2008 A very good post. I ,for one, feel really ground down by the apparent lack of progress on new investment/ownership,which is the key to any forward progress.I''m also disappointed that a squad that I considered (and still consider) to be significantly better than last year''s has failed so miserably to achieve it''s potential.As a result I''m starting to question my original support for Roeder,although I can''t see how yet another change of manager can help the club''s financial situation,which is clearly parlous.As to the forum,I enjoy debating with other fans and will happily post on most subjects.Unfortunately I do think that a lot of people are turned away by the triumphalism of the likes of Smudger when things go wrong.When my team does badly I hurt,but for some people it seems like an opportunity to indulge in an ego trip to promote their own (imagined) self importance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bury Yellow 2 Posted October 30, 2008 Excellent original post and I also agree with all points made by you Beauseant.All in all, sums everything up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gazzathegreat 0 Posted October 30, 2008 Well done Koimatsuba, you have summed up a lot of fans'' feelings here.I personally don''t think promotion was a bad thing, after all it''s the aim of the game, otherwise, why bother? It''s the prize for winning this division and what a prize. If the club, from the Board down to each and every player don''t want it then they should be somewhere else. Thinking we can or can''t beat other teams is to do with expectations. Some will call it arrogance to think we should beat certain sides. Others will call it acceptance that we are now so poor we can''t expect to beat A or B. Some teams come straight back down, others survive and go on to become established Premiership teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tumbleweed 106 Posted October 30, 2008 Its the lack of heroes for me. I can''t identify with the players as much any more. They come and go ever more quickly, the large number of loans means this isn''t my team so much anymore. Do I care if Lita scores? Well, I''m happy that its a Norwich goal but he''ll return to his club and be just a fleeting moment in NCFC''s history. However the Fleck goals, those Huckerby magic moments, Iwan and Malky''s towering headers, the mazy runs from Eadie and Disco dale, the sublime finishes from Deehan and the calm authority of Peters and Crook. Those guys shared our passion and we rejoiced with them. Daryl Sutch might have been overrated but at least he was our Daryl Sutch and we shared his evolution into first team regular. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beauseant 0 Posted October 30, 2008 [quote user="Tumbleweed"]Its the lack of heroes for me. I can''t identify with the players as much any more. They come and go ever more quickly, the large number of loans means this isn''t my team so much anymore. Do I care if Lita scores? Well, I''m happy that its a Norwich goal but he''ll return to his club and be just a fleeting moment in NCFC''s history. However the Fleck goals, those Huckerby magic moments, Iwan and Malky''s towering headers, the mazy runs from Eadie and Disco dale, the sublime finishes from Deehan and the calm authority of Peters and Crook. Those guys shared our passion and we rejoiced with them. Daryl Sutch might have been overrated but at least he was our Daryl Sutch and we shared his evolution into first team regular.[/quote] Spot on[Y] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
votepedro 0 Posted October 30, 2008 I too agree with most of the above, especially tumbleweed''s comments about needing heroes... don''t forget goss and gunny! when was the last time we really bonded with our goalie? if only curo had started the season strongly. he was destined to be our next hero. but there''s still some great players who are signed up and staying put who we may yet grow to love. give it time.i think roeder talks a good game, knows what he''s doing and has the team with him. we should all stick with him as i genuinely believe he''s 100% committed to norwich city.i like everyone else i guess and am just waiting for this team to gel and put a little run together. it''s amazing what a few wins can do for confidence and then it''s easy to climb the table.on the ball city! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hog 0 Posted October 30, 2008 Everyday I log on hoping to see some earthshattering news, but despite the efforts of The Butler and that chaps wallet I feel my shoulders slump in an apathetic depression. I not sick of it all, just bored I guess and the little voice telling me that things will never get better seems to be getting louder and more insistent after every game. Even after our wonderful butchery of Wolves I still knew that the real problem was at the top and no amount of good results would ever change that. They had their shot at the Premiership and were found sadly lacking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koimatsuba 0 Posted October 30, 2008 Many Thanks for the replies ... I knew I wasn''t alone ... Tumbleweed: Your quotes are spot on, yes we need heroes, and the past heroes are excatcly what we need today. However then it was all different, I fear that we have slumped so low that we need a major investor to get us out.We won''t have any long time heroes as loan players. And we have no cash in todays footballing world to buy any.Cheers for the replies again. Many Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
