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[Green and Yellow 0]

If Norwich City FC crash and burn like last year, eight points by mid October, who believes that Peter Cullum will return and buy Delia out?.

[Syteanric 1]

perhaps not the right question to ask OTRTS...

Perhaps it should be "would Delia approach cullum, tail between legs and cap in hand?"

jas :)

[Beauseant 0]

[quote user="jas the barclay king"]

perhaps not the right question to ask OTRTS...

Perhaps it should be "would Delia approach cullum, tail between legs and cap in hand?"

jas :)

[/quote]

 

Either way,he won''t come in .If he wanted to take control, and had the resources to ,he would have done so in the summer.That''s the point I''ve been trying to make elsewhere.I''m happy to see a change at board level,but not a descent into anarchy because of an ill conceived leap of faith.

[city-till-i-die 7]

[quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="jas the barclay king"]

perhaps not the right question to ask OTRTS...

Perhaps it should be "would Delia approach cullum, tail between legs and cap in hand?"

jas :)

[/quote]

 

Either way,he won''t come in .If he wanted to take control, and had the resources to ,he would have done so in the summer.That''s the point I''ve been trying to make elsewhere.I''m happy to see a change at board level,but not a descent into anarchy because of an ill conceived leap of faith.

[/quote]yes he has the funds...but you have to think......if you could buy a car for £10,000 now...or in six months buy it for £5,000...what would you do????

cullum is a very shrewed business man..he hasnt made millions giving his money away...imo think we need a new board with new direction..WHOM EVER THAT MAY BE

[Mello Yello 2,294]

[quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="jas the barclay king"]

perhaps not the right question to ask OTRTS...

Perhaps it should be "would Delia approach cullum, tail between legs and cap in hand?"

jas :)

[/quote]

 

Either way,he won''t come in .If he wanted to take control, and had the resources to ,he would have done so in the summer.That''s the point I''ve been trying to make elsewhere.I''m happy to see a change at board level,but not a descent into anarchy because of an ill conceived leap of faith.

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What a load of bollox. Been rolling your chicken bones? Staring through your mystical all seeing empty Panda pop bottle? You do talk some $h*te.....

He hasn''t been chased off with his supposed ''pointed tail between his legs and deflated horns dropped behind his ears''.....He''ll be back when he''s ready.....

[Beauseant 0]

[quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="jas the barclay king"]

perhaps not the right question to ask OTRTS...

Perhaps it should be "would Delia approach cullum, tail between legs and cap in hand?"

jas :)

[/quote]

 

Either way,he won''t come in .If he wanted to take control, and had the resources to ,he would have done so in the summer.That''s the point I''ve been trying to make elsewhere.I''m happy to see a change at board level,but not a descent into anarchy because of an ill conceived leap of faith.

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What a load of bollox. Been rolling your chicken bones? Staring through your mystical all seeing empty Panda pop bottle? You do talk some $h*te.....

He hasn''t been chased off with his supposed ''pointed tail between his legs and deflated horns dropped behind his ears''.....He''ll be back when he''s ready.....

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I think that Jas was referring to Delia having her tail between her legs.As for what I assume was your response to me,you have unwittingly made my point .You can''t be sure that he will come in any more than I can be that he won''t.Are you prepared to risk the very future of the club on the assumption that you''re right?.By the way,resorting to insults and swearing doesn''t make you look either big or clever

[Canary Wundaboy 1,359]

[quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="jas the barclay king"]

perhaps not the right question to ask OTRTS...

Perhaps it should be "would Delia approach cullum, tail between legs and cap in hand?"

jas :)

[/quote]

 

Either way,he won''t come in .If he wanted to take control, and had the resources to ,he would have done so in the summer.That''s the point I''ve been trying to make elsewhere.I''m happy to see a change at board level,but not a descent into anarchy because of an ill conceived leap of faith.

[/quote]I disagree, I think he approached the club and got told to sod off, the asking price of £56mill was total and utter hogwash and Cullum knew it, instead he figured that he could walk away then and pick up the club for a fraction when this season went inevitably downwards in a big way. That way he''d actually have more money to SPEND, rather than pissing it all away lining the cook''s pockets. £30 a share....don''t make me laugh. What made me really laugh was afterwards when the club stated they would of course accept a donation of that size, sure Cullum''s going to give the club £20million when the primary reason the fans are unhappy is becuase of seasons of mis-investment!!!

[Time to go Delia 0]

Just because he has the resources it does not mean he has to let the cook rip him off Beauseant , he will be back but it may be after we get relegated .

[Syteanric 1]

I think Cullum will be back.. hes a succesful businessman.. he knows he just has to wait

jas :)

[Beauseant 0]

[quote user="Loan City Fc "]Just because he has the resources it does not mean he has to let the cook rip him off Beauseant , he will be back but it may be after we get relegated .
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With respect,you''re all missing or avoiding my point,which is that there is an assumption that Cullum is waiting in the wings.All I''m asking for is empirical evidence of that.Give it to me and I''m with you,believe me.My concern is that with the economic downturn and certain other factors affecting Towergate I''m not sure that Cullum can buy the club,even if he wants to.A

[Beauseant 0]

[quote user="Loan City Fc "]Just because he has the resources it does not mean he has to let the cook rip him off Beauseant , he will be back but it may be after we get relegated .
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With respect,you''re all missing or avoiding my point,which is that there is an assumption that Cullum is waiting in the wings.All I''m asking for is empirical evidence of that.Give it to me and I''m with you,believe me.My concern is that with the economic downturn and certain other factors affecting Towergate I''m not sure that Cullum can buy the club,even if he wants to.A lot

[Beauseant 0]

[quote user="Loan City Fc "]Just because he has the resources it does not mean he has to let the cook rip him off Beauseant , he will be back but it may be after we get relegated .
[/quote]

 

With respect,you''re all missing or avoiding my point,which is that there is an assumption that Cullum is waiting in the wings.All I''m asking for is empirical evidence of that.Give it to me and I''m with you,believe me.My concern is that with the economic downturn and certain other factors affecting Towergate I''m not sure that Cullum can buy the club,even if he wants to.A lot of

[Beauseant 0]

[quote user="Loan City Fc "]Just because he has the resources it does not mean he has to let the cook rip him off Beauseant , he will be back but it may be after we get relegated .
[/quote]

 

With respect,you''re all missing or avoiding my point,which is that there is an assumption that Cullum is waiting in the wings.All I''m asking for is empirical evidence of that.Give it to me and I''m with you,believe me.My concern is that with the economic downturn and certain other factors affecting Towergate I''m not sure that Cullum can buy the club,even if he wants to.A lot of his

[Beauseant 0]

[quote user="jas the barclay king"]

I think Cullum will be back.. hes a succesful businessman.. he knows he just has to wait

jas :)

[/quote]

 

I really hope he does,but my point is that we don''t know for sure.The economic downturn will not help his liquidity,and Towergate is not immune to the problems besetting the financial services industry.He may not be in a position to buy the club,even at a lower price.You have to be sure of the alternative before you destroy the status quo.

[Sing Up The South Stand 0]

So, loan fc - he doesn''t have to let the cook rip him off, fair enough... but equally why should delia let cullum get the club for much less than it is actually worth?

[Beauseant 0]

Sorry about the multiple posts,people,not sure what happened there!!!

[Syteanric 1]

[quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="jas the barclay king"]

I think Cullum will be back.. hes a succesful businessman.. he knows he just has to wait

jas :)

[/quote]

 

I really hope he does,but my point is that we don''t know for sure.The economic downturn will not help his liquidity,and Towergate is not immune to the problems besetting the financial services industry.He may not be in a position to buy the club,even at a lower price.You have to be sure of the alternative before you destroy the status quo.

[/quote]

very true.. but Cullum cashed in on part of his comoany last year.. working in the financial sector did he predict the credit crunch succesfully and prepare for it with the money no aside to ride to our aid when necessary?

jas :)

[Mello Yello 2,294]

[quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="jas the barclay king"]

perhaps not the right question to ask OTRTS...

Perhaps it should be "would Delia approach cullum, tail between legs and cap in hand?"

jas :)

[/quote]

 

Either way,he won''t come in .If he wanted to take control, and had the resources to ,he would have done so in the summer.That''s the point I''ve been trying to make elsewhere.I''m happy to see a change at board level,but not a descent into anarchy because of an ill conceived leap of faith.

[/quote]

What a load of bollox. Been rolling your chicken bones? Staring through your mystical all seeing empty Panda pop bottle? You do talk some $h*te.....

He hasn''t been chased off with his supposed ''pointed tail between his legs and deflated horns dropped behind his ears''.....He''ll be back when he''s ready.....

[/quote]

 

I think that Jas was referring to Delia having her tail between her legs.As for what I assume was your response to me,you have unwittingly made my point .You can''t be sure that he will come in any more than I can be that he won''t.Are you prepared to risk the very future of the club on the assumption that you''re right?.By the way,resorting to insults and swearing doesn''t make you look either big or clever

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You still talk a load of bollox.

[Beauseant 0]

[quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="jas the barclay king"]

perhaps not the right question to ask OTRTS...

Perhaps it should be "would Delia approach cullum, tail between legs and cap in hand?"

jas :)

[/quote]

 

Either way,he won''t come in .If he wanted to take control, and had the resources to ,he would have done so in the summer.That''s the point I''ve been trying to make elsewhere.I''m happy to see a change at board level,but not a descent into anarchy because of an ill conceived leap of faith.

[/quote]

What a load of bollox. Been rolling your chicken bones? Staring through your mystical all seeing empty Panda pop bottle? You do talk some $h*te.....

He hasn''t been chased off with his supposed ''pointed tail between his legs and deflated horns dropped behind his ears''.....He''ll be back when he''s ready.....

[/quote]

 

I think that Jas was referring to Delia having her tail between her legs.As for what I assume was your response to me,you have unwittingly made my point .You can''t be sure that he will come in any more than I can be that he won''t.Are you prepared to risk the very future of the club on the assumption that you''re right?.By the way,resorting to insults and swearing doesn''t make you look either big or clever

[/quote]

You still talk a load of bollox.

[/quote]

 

And you are still showing your ignorance ; )

[Beauseant 0]

[quote user="jas the barclay king"][quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="jas the barclay king"]

I think Cullum will be back.. hes a succesful businessman.. he knows he just has to wait

jas :)

[/quote]

 

I really hope he does,but my point is that we don''t know for sure.The economic downturn will not help his liquidity,and Towergate is not immune to the problems besetting the financial services industry.He may not be in a position to buy the club,even at a lower price.You have to be sure of the alternative before you destroy the status quo.

[/quote]

very true.. but Cullum cashed in on part of his comoany last year.. working in the financial sector did he predict the credit crunch succesfully and prepare for it with the money no aside to ride to our aid when necessary?

jas :)

[/quote]

Towergate have been heavily involved in acquisitions which has tied up a lot of capital,although you are correct that he liquidated some of his business assets last year.As to your question, Jas, the answer is that I hope so,but I need more than hope before I start manning the barricades.

[Mello Yello 2,294]

[quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="jas the barclay king"]

perhaps not the right question to ask OTRTS...

Perhaps it should be "would Delia approach cullum, tail between legs and cap in hand?"

jas :)

[/quote]

 

Either way,he won''t come in .If he wanted to take control, and had the resources to ,he would have done so in the summer.That''s the point I''ve been trying to make elsewhere.I''m happy to see a change at board level,but not a descent into anarchy because of an ill conceived leap of faith.

[/quote]

What a load of bollox. Been rolling your chicken bones? Staring through your mystical all seeing empty Panda pop bottle? You do talk some $h*te.....

He hasn''t been chased off with his supposed ''pointed tail between his legs and deflated horns dropped behind his ears''.....He''ll be back when he''s ready.....

[/quote]

 

I think that Jas was referring to Delia having her tail between her legs.As for what I assume was your response to me,you have unwittingly made my point .You can''t be sure that he will come in any more than I can be that he won''t.Are you prepared to risk the very future of the club on the assumption that you''re right?.By the way,resorting to insults and swearing doesn''t make you look either big or clever

[/quote]

You still talk a load of bollox.

[/quote]

 

And you are still showing your ignorance ; )

[/quote]

What''s ignorance?

[Beauseant 0]

[quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="jas the barclay king"]

perhaps not the right question to ask OTRTS...

Perhaps it should be "would Delia approach cullum, tail between legs and cap in hand?"

jas :)

[/quote]

 

Either way,he won''t come in .If he wanted to take control, and had the resources to ,he would have done so in the summer.That''s the point I''ve been trying to make elsewhere.I''m happy to see a change at board level,but not a descent into anarchy because of an ill conceived leap of faith.

[/quote]

What a load of bollox. Been rolling your chicken bones? Staring through your mystical all seeing empty Panda pop bottle? You do talk some $h*te.....

He hasn''t been chased off with his supposed ''pointed tail between his legs and deflated horns dropped behind his ears''.....He''ll be back when he''s ready.....

[/quote]

 

I think that Jas was referring to Delia having her tail between her legs.As for what I assume was your response to me,you have unwittingly made my point .You can''t be sure that he will come in any more than I can be that he won''t.Are you prepared to risk the very future of the club on the assumption that you''re right?.By the way,resorting to insults and swearing doesn''t make you look either big or clever

[/quote]

You still talk a load of bollox.

[/quote]

 

And you are still showing your ignorance ; )

[/quote]

What''s ignorance?

[/quote]

 

 

LOL!!!!

[Shyster 0]

[quote user="Beauseant"]

[quote user="Loan City Fc "]Just because he has the resources it does not mean he has to let the cook rip him off Beauseant , he will be back but it may be after we get relegated .[/quote]

 

With respect,you''re all missing or avoiding my point,which is that there is an assumption that Cullum is waiting in the wings.All I''m asking for is empirical evidence of that.Give it to me and I''m with you,believe me.My concern is that with the economic downturn and certain other factors affecting Towergate I''m not sure that Cullum can buy the club,even if he wants to.A

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Christ on a bike, Beauseant, I''ve seen it all now! [:P] Cullum is worth over a million millions and regardless of any Towergate deals, he isn''t going to go bust anytime soon - in fact his recent dealings with three US firms suggest the bugger is going to add to his fortune.Investing in NCFC would be small-fry to Cullum, but it''s like others here have stressed he''s waiting for the right time.There seems to have been a considerable influx of King''s Lynn based posters here just recently - shouldn''t you be contributing to a King''s Lynn FC related message board now your team has gone up a level to play footballing giants such as Burscough & Redditch? [;)]

[Syteanric 1]

ive enjoyed the debate with Beusant in this thread i have to say.... No name calling or insults between me and him and i think he has put his point accross well....

I salute you good sir!

jas :)

[Shyster 0]

Well bully for you with bells on, you sycophantic creep. [;)]

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[quote user="shyster"]Well bully for you with bells on, you sycophantic creep. [;)]
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Luv it Shyster.......Straight and to the point as always.   [Y]

 

[Beauseant 0]

[quote user="jas the barclay king"]

ive enjoyed the debate with Beusant in this thread i have to say.... No name calling or insults between me and him and i think he has put his point accross well....

I salute you good sir!

jas :)

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The respect is mutual,jas.It''s nice to come across someone who understands the principle of debate.I look forward to our next meeting!

[walks on water 0]

IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don''t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don''t give way to hating,
And yet don''t look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you''ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ''em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ''Hold on!''

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
'' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds'' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that''s in it,
And - which is more - you''ll be a Man, my son!

 

 

Yup. Couldn''t agree more Rudyard

[Beauseant 0]

[quote user="shyster"][quote user="Beauseant"]

[quote user="Loan City Fc "]Just because he has the resources it does not mean he has to let the cook rip him off Beauseant , he will be back but it may be after we get relegated .
[/quote]

 

With respect,you''re all missing or avoiding my point,which is that there is an assumption that Cullum is waiting in the wings.All I''m asking for is empirical evidence of that.Give it to me and I''m with you,believe me.My concern is that with the economic downturn and certain other factors affecting Towergate I''m not sure that Cullum can buy the club,even if he wants to.A

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Christ on a bike, Beauseant, I''ve seen it all now! [:P] Cullum is worth over a million millions and regardless of any Towergate deals, he isn''t going to go bust anytime soon - in fact his recent dealings with three US firms suggest the bugger is going to add to his fortune.

Investing in NCFC would be small-fry to Cullum, but it''s like others here have stressed he''s waiting for the right time.

There seems to have been a considerable influx of King''s Lynn based posters here just recently - shouldn''t you be contributing to a King''s Lynn FC related message board now your team has gone up a level to play footballing giants such as Burscough & Redditch? [;)]

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I''ve run a business for 18years.I suspect that I know rather more about business finance,liquidity,gearing  and capitalisation than you,so will excuse your naivety.However,I would love to see you create an argument of your own,rather than simply hitching your cart to others.As for your final point,I think "grow up" is probably the most appropriate response.

[Hackney Canary 0]

[quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="jas the barclay king"]

perhaps not the right question to ask OTRTS...

Perhaps it should be "would Delia approach cullum, tail between legs and cap in hand?"

jas :)

[/quote]

 

Either way,he won''t come in .If he wanted to take control, and had the resources to ,he would have done so in the summer.That''s the point I''ve been trying to make elsewhere.I''m happy to see a change at board level,but not a descent into anarchy because of an ill conceived leap of faith.

[/quote]

What a load of bollox. Been rolling your chicken bones? Staring through your mystical all seeing empty Panda pop bottle? You do talk some $h*te.....

He hasn''t been chased off with his supposed ''pointed tail between his legs and deflated horns dropped behind his ears''.....He''ll be back when he''s ready.....

[/quote]And when he''s ready will be when the club is available on the cheap. I don''t know about you, but that''s not the kind of commitment I want to see from a knight in shining armour...