Budger 0 Posted September 11, 2007 Axed Leicester boss Martin Allen is set to be offered a return to management with Gillingham. (Daily Mirror) This is someone who a lot of people would rather here than Grant... does he fancy being an Assistant Manager? with Duffy as coach Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BCanary 0 Posted September 11, 2007 Why would Martin Allen be interested in taking an Assistant Managers position by the side of someone with less managerial experience than himself? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted September 11, 2007 [quote user="MK Canary"]Why would Martin Allen be interested in taking an Assistant Managers position by the side of someone with less managerial experience than himself?[/quote]Jim Duffy did just that, ask him why?! [*-)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,572 Posted September 11, 2007 [quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="MK Canary"]Why would Martin Allen be interested in taking an Assistant Managers position by the side of someone with less managerial experience than himself?[/quote]Jim Duffy did just that, ask him why?! [*-)] [/quote]Err........substantial pay increase........perchance? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Journalist Foghorn 0 Posted September 11, 2007 [quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="MK Canary"]Why would Martin Allen be interested in taking an Assistant Managers position by the side of someone with less managerial experience than himself?[/quote]Jim Duffy did just that, ask him why?! [*-)] [/quote]errrrr perhaps due to his less than brilliant recent managerial record...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
macdougalls perm 0 Posted September 12, 2007 [quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"][quote user="nutty nigel"] [quote user="MK Canary"]Why would Martin Allen be interested in taking an Assistant Managers position by the side of someone with less managerial experience than himself?[/quote]Jim Duffy did just that, ask him why?! [*-)] [/quote]errrrr perhaps due to his less than brilliant recent managerial record......[/quote]Because Allen''s is absolutely stellar isn''t it. [:)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
we8wba 0 Posted September 12, 2007 NO CHANCE IN HELL, cant really see martin allen taking orders of people can you? also i think he deserves his chance to become a manager of at least league 1 side after great job he did at brentford! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted September 12, 2007 [quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"][quote user="nutty nigel"] [quote user="MK Canary"]Why would Martin Allen be interested in taking an Assistant Managers position by the side of someone with less managerial experience than himself?[/quote]Jim Duffy did just that, ask him why?! [*-)] [/quote]errrrr perhaps due to his less than brilliant recent managerial record......[/quote]So is Martin Allens record better than Jim Duffy''s? You really don''t ever have anything good to say about anyone connected to the club you claim to support.I''ll tell you what - why don''t we just appoint management teams that rhyme, then we could have your beloved Mike Newell with Paul Jewell or your beloved George Burley with Kenny Lunt! [:P] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricky knight 0 Posted September 12, 2007 [quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"][quote user="nutty nigel"] [quote user="MK Canary"]Why would Martin Allen be interested in taking an Assistant Managers position by the side of someone with less managerial experience than himself?[/quote]Jim Duffy did just that, ask him why?! [*-)] [/quote]errrrr perhaps due to his less than brilliant recent managerial record......[/quote]So is Martin Allens record better than Jim Duffy''s? You really don''t ever have anything good to say about anyone connected to the club you claim to support.I''ll tell you what - why don''t we just appoint management teams that rhyme, then we could have your beloved Mike Newell with Paul Jewell or your beloved George Burley with Kenny Lunt! [:P] [/quote]Any of those pairings would be better than what we have i would especially settle for Jewell and Newell rather than McMouth and McWho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Show Me What You Gooot! 0 Posted September 12, 2007 [quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"][quote user="nutty nigel"] [quote user="MK Canary"]Why would Martin Allen be interested in taking an Assistant Managers position by the side of someone with less managerial experience than himself?[/quote]Jim Duffy did just that, ask him why?! [*-)] [/quote]errrrr perhaps due to his less than brilliant recent managerial record......[/quote]So is Martin Allens record better than Jim Duffy''s? You really don''t ever have anything good to say about anyone connected to the club you claim to support.I''ll tell you what - why don''t we just appoint management teams that rhyme, then we could have your beloved Mike Newell with Paul Jewell or your beloved George Burley with Kenny Lunt! [:P] [/quote]Lunt doesn''t Rhyme with Penis[:P] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Journalist Foghorn 0 Posted September 12, 2007 [quote user="macdougalls perm"][quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"][quote user="nutty nigel"] [quote user="MK Canary"]Why would Martin Allen be interested in taking an Assistant Managers position by the side of someone with less managerial experience than himself?[/quote]Jim Duffy did just that, ask him why?! [*-)] [/quote]errrrr perhaps due to his less than brilliant recent managerial record......[/quote]Because Allen''s is absolutely stellar isn''t it. [:)] [/quote]http://www.soccerbase.com/managers2.sd?managerid=1897Won more than he has lost at every club, admitadly lower league.....TeamFromToGamesWonLostDrawnLeicester 25-05-2007 29-08-2007 4211MK Dons 21-06-2006 25-05-2007 55281611Brentford 18-03-2004 31-05-2006 124543436 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Journalist Foghorn 0 Posted September 12, 2007 [quote user="nutty nigel"]So is Martin Allens record better than Jim Duffy''s? You really don''t ever have anything good to say about anyone connected to the club you claim to support.I''ll tell you what - why don''t we just appoint management teams that rhyme, then we could have your beloved Mike Newell with Paul Jewell or your beloved George Burley with Kenny Lunt! [:P][/quote]Yes, Martin Allen''s record is better, Martin Allen was not responsible for three relegations. Jim Duffy was not a good manager. Full Stop. In fact he sounds like a bit of a jerk from the below article.http://www.dundee-mad.co.uk/news/loadfeat.asp?cid=EDZ5&id=236879Jim Duffy AwayAn announcement from the club that a manager has resigned or been sacked is never a good thing. It usually means that we have either lost someone who was doing a good job but moving to better things or it means that the team hasn''t been performing as well as we would like.In the case of Jim Duffy there were mixed emotions at the news he is no longer the manager of Dundee Football Club. Thats because here at Dundee Mad we remember many different versions of the man.The first is Jim Duffy the player. A fantastic defender who should have played for Scotland when at Morton and Dundee. A real loss to the game that fateful day at Ibrox when he would never play to the same standard again.The second is Jim Duffy the man who became Dundee manager the first time round and who guided a 1st Division side into the 1995 League Cup Final but who could not get promotion with a team full of young talented players. At the end of his reign he then famously joined Hibs where he misguidely left to go on to a disastrous spell at Easter Road where Hibs were bottom of the league just as he had managed with Dundee.Then we have Jim Duffy the media personality who is extremely good on the telly, giving insights and views that make you wonder why he has never been a successful manager. Accomplished and skilful in both the written media and the visual variety Jim will likely continue to earn a good living in this field.This brings us on to the Jim Duffy who has left the club today. Jim Duffy, manager of Dundee Football Club.Undoubtedly Jim has managed the club through a very difficult period in our history. His stewardship through administration should never be forgotten. He met those losing their jobs man to man and never flinched on his responsibilities. Here at Dundee Mad we have the utmost respect for the way he handled this situation and applaud his stance on talking to people individually.That said we are sure that the decision for Jim to move on today is exactly the right one to take.All football managers are judged on results and its an unfortunate fact that relegation last season should, and could, have been avoided and that responsibility lies fairly and squarely with the manager. In Jim Duffy''s case it was his second relegation as Dundee manager having repeated the 1993-94 season and arguably his career third, leaving Hibs only 7 weeks before they were relegated during his tenure.The manner of the defeat at Stranraer, the first time Dundee have ever lost to Stranraer, seems to have finally broken the camels back.Rumours of his struggling relationships with other employees of the club are unconfirmed but we at Dundee Mad have personally seen another side to Jim Duffy that has shown us that at times he can be arrogant and aloof.We feel that perhaps Jim Duffy values his own opinions so strongly that no other view gets a look in. That appears to have been his downfall as a manager throughout his career.We remember an incident at Portadown after a pre-season friendly when he struggled to give us the time of day even though Dundee Mad sponsored the game and were in the boardroom with him after the game. We were treated royally by our hosts but the manager of our own club treated us with contempt. In conclusion then, we are sure that this is the right move for Dundee Football Club which must always be the prime concern. Its time to move on and see some fresh ideas on the park each Saturday afternoon, a team fighting for each other and winning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Journalist Foghorn 0 Posted September 12, 2007 Jim Duffy is another hardline type of guy like the exceptional managerial talent Peter Grant, I guess thats why Peter Grant was looking for a more affable fella to come in as coach. Now that is being cleverer than the rest!! [|-)]http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/sport.cfm?id=578082007 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted September 12, 2007 [quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"]Jim Duffy is another hardline type of guy like the exceptional managerial talent Peter Grant, I guess thats why Peter Grant was looking for a more affable fella to come in as coach. Now that is being cleverer than the rest!! [|-)]http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/sport.cfm?id=578082007[/quote]maybe we should have kept Livermore then [:^)]But then again weren''t you one of the fiercest critics of the so called "Costa Del Norwich" comfort zone under the previous management.But then again maybe your just one of the fiercest critics.....How long before "we want worthy back" with his sunbeds for the fans favourites[H] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Journalist Foghorn 0 Posted September 12, 2007 [quote user="nutty nigel"]maybe we should have kept Livermore then [:^)][/quote]That was Grants choice - he is manager, and his choice of who to replace him by. He will live and die by his choices. If we continue as we are at the moment - 20th place - he will be sacked before the season is out (well by any normal well run club).I personally want him to do well - cos Grant doing well means Norwich City are doing well. From what I have seen from almost a year of his tenure I don''t think that will happen, he looks a dud manager so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charlies dad 0 Posted September 12, 2007 No way. the blokes a nutter. We need a credible (sane), knowledgeable, experienced FOOTBALL MANAGER to dig us out of this mess. But dont hold your breath waiting for one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites