Norwich fans 'I'm just happy to watch football' attitude drives me crazy.

[Balham Yellow 0]

I tell you what, you get the team you deserve.  People on this site saying a point was a good result last night.  A point against Southend can never be a good result in my book let alone when you''re 3-1 up.  There is even someone on here saying that it was a good game being 3-3!  A good game if you''re neutral perhaps but you''re not are you?

Why are people blaming the manager?  I don''t know may be it''s because the team is entirely of his making and that he consistently proves that he is tactically inept.  You see one half decent performance and that''s it you''re happy.  If you think that we''ve played well in general this season you''re deluded. 

Why is it a huge number of Norwich fans are just happy to sit down and shut up no matter how poor a side we are.  Where''s the ambition?  Do you not care that we are not improving or making any progress?  There''s a loser mentality that pervades this club and it starts with the fans.

[JJ 0]

Take it from me, there were 2000 people coming out of Roots Hall last night who didn''t think that was a good result.  Good game, yes but a good result, no.

 

[canary cherub 1]

Balham, I''m not just happy to watch football,  I''d much prefer an ugly win to a pretty defeat. (I''d like a pretty win even more, needless to say.) 

No one is satisfied with what happened last night.  But "A point against Southend can never be a good result"?  That''s arrogance not ambition. 

"A loser mentality that . . . starts with the fans"?  You don''t still believe that the catchphrase "Prudence with Ambition" actually means anything, do you?  Lack of ambition starts in the boardroom. The problem is, what do we do about it? 

If we continue to pack out the ground like we do, what motivation does the board have to alter the status quo?  They''re more likely to borrow silly amounts of money all over again and build another stand.  All they are interested in is bums on seats, balancing the books and catering. Football is way down their list of priorities imo. 

But if we vote with our feet, what then?  It gives the board a ready made excuse to plead poverty.  We''re in a Catch-22 situation.

 

[percyvarco 0]

sadly there are also a lot of people on here who posted that they would be happy with a draw last night and a win on sat. I assume that these people are happy as they are half way to their goal.

 

[Saint Canary 0]

[quote user="JayM"]

Take it from me, there were 2000 people coming out of Roots Hall last night who didn''t think that was a good result.  Good game, yes but a good result, no.

 

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I agree, it''s a bad analogy but Southend acted like they had won the FA Cup and I felt like we had just lost it.

[NavMan 0]

The best bit was when a chappie came on Radio Norfolk last night and said that he would prefer a game like than rather than Norwich seeing the game out with 3-1 up.  Stated that it was good entertainment.  I''m sorry but if Norwich getting three goals away from home is''nt enough entertainment then I dont know what is.  Try telling all these fans when we are languishing in mid table because we gave good entertainment when winning games by two goals only to draw that we have had a good season.  Remember this is the second and final season of parachute payments.  Stuff the entertainment for the final 20 mins of a game if it gets us promoted.  Maybe he likes seeing Colchester and Southend down here instead of Liverpool and Chelsea but I certainly do''nt.      

[Ian 1,211]

[quote user="Balham Yellow"]

I tell you what, you get the team you deserve.  People on this site saying a point was a good result last night.  A point against Southend can never be a good result in my book let alone when you''re 3-1 up.  There is even someone on here saying that it was a good game being 3-3!  A good game if you''re neutral perhaps but you''re not are you?

Why are people blaming the manager?  I don''t know may be it''s because the team is entirely of his making and that he consistently proves that he is tactically inept.  You see one half decent performance and that''s it you''re happy.  If you think that we''ve played well in general this season you''re deluded. 

Why is it a huge number of Norwich fans are just happy to sit down and shut up no matter how poor a side we are.  Where''s the ambition?  Do you not care that we are not improving or making any progress?  There''s a loser mentality that pervades this club and it starts with the fans.

[/quote]I suppose it depends on your viewpoint really. Would you rather watch an entertaining game that you aren''t guaranteed to win (Norwich), or boring, predictable football where you win 95% of the time (Chelsea)? Personally, I go to the football to be entertained. Even if the result

goes against us, I am happy if the team puts in a good performance.

Maybe that makes me a "loser", but of more concern to me is the fact that

some of our fans seem to think we have the sudden divine right to win

every single game. I suggest that attitude would be more suited to

supporting the aformentioned club - as there is a difference between ambition, and baseless arrogance. Everyone wants to win, but to some fans, that is not the be all and end all.I think most people blame the manager because he is the figurehead of the club, and therefore (on a simplistic level) is responsible for everything bad that happens at the club. Others recognise that there are many, many other factors which are beyond his control. The thing that makes me laugh is that you call him tactically inept -- well, did you say that after our 2-0 win against Man. U in the Premiership? How about after our 5-1 win last week? What about when we won the Championship by 10+ points?And before anyone starts accusing me of living off past glories - I simply try and take into account his entire contribution to the club rather than just his mistakes to try and prove my point. I have no doubt he could have done a lot of things better, and has made bad decisions, but we have come a long way since he took over. I think the most telling thing is that peoples'' hateful attitutde to him indicates exactly what the club has achieved whilst he has been here. If we were still fighting for our survival at the bottom of the league, fans'' expectations, I''m sure, wouldn''t be so high.As it stands, anything and everything he does will not be good enough to some.

[Hardhouse44 289]

[quote user="I. Shurmer"][quote user="Balham Yellow"]

I tell you what, you get the team you deserve.  People on this site saying a point was a good result last night.  A point against Southend can never be a good result in my book let alone when you''re 3-1 up.  There is even someone on here saying that it was a good game being 3-3!  A good game if you''re neutral perhaps but you''re not are you?

Why are people blaming the manager?  I don''t know may be it''s because the team is entirely of his making and that he consistently proves that he is tactically inept.  You see one half decent performance and that''s it you''re happy.  If you think that we''ve played well in general this season you''re deluded. 

Why is it a huge number of Norwich fans are just happy to sit down and shut up no matter how poor a side we are.  Where''s the ambition?  Do you not care that we are not improving or making any progress?  There''s a loser mentality that pervades this club and it starts with the fans.

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I suppose it depends on your viewpoint really. Would you rather watch an entertaining game that you aren''t guaranteed to win (Norwich), or boring, predictable football where you win 95% of the time (Chelsea)? Personally, I go to the football to be entertained. Even if the result goes against us, I am happy if the team puts in a good performance. Maybe that makes me a "loser", but of more concern to me is the fact that some of our fans seem to think we have the sudden divine right to win every single game. I suggest that attitude would be more suited to supporting the aformentioned club - as there is a difference between ambition, and baseless arrogance. Everyone wants to win, but to some fans, that is not the be all and end all.

I think most people blame the manager because he is the figurehead of the club, and therefore (on a simplistic level) is responsible for everything bad that happens at the club. Others recognise that there are many, many other factors which are beyond his control. The thing that makes me laugh is that you call him tactically inept -- well, did you say that after our 2-0 win against Man. U in the Premiership? How about after our 5-1 win last week? What about when we won the Championship by 10+ points?

And before anyone starts accusing me of living off past glories - I simply try and take into account his entire contribution to the club rather than just his mistakes to try and prove my point. I have no doubt he could have done a lot of things better, and has made bad decisions, but we have come a long way since he took over. I think the most telling thing is that peoples'' hateful attitutde to him indicates exactly what the club has achieved whilst he has been here. If we were still fighting for our survival at the bottom of the league, fans'' expectations, I''m sure, wouldn''t be so high.

As it stands, anything and everything he does will not be good enough to some.
[/quote]Don''t get too romantically carried away by our performances. We have scored a few goals yes but we have hardly been playing total football. A few goals from dreadful defensive mistakes and a few bundled in don''t match up to the 25 yard screamers that Lampard and his pals are regularly scoring against top opposition. The other thing is the point of support and running a football club is to improve and take your game to a different level. Wins however they come will do that 3 all draws against southend won''t. Finally people are taking account of the managers entire contribution that’s why so many have reminded us of the 6 wins in 47 away games. Worthington has been given his chance. He has failed. He lives on our promotion success. Success that may have come under any manager given the financial gamble the board took. Just 1 away win in that premiership season would have saved us from relegation. Had our tactics be different our mind set and game plan been more sound who''s to say we wouldn''t have won one, same with last night. We haven''t improved changed or adjusted anything and the results are the same. WORTHINGTON OUT.

[Colourful Canary 0]

I''m with Balham Yellow on this one.

I don''t post on here very often because if I dare criticise the team or

the manager I am accused of not being a "true supporter"'', whatever

that means. For the record I care passionately about Norwich City but I

think that the current crop of players are for the most part a load of

overpaid prima-donna pansies more interested in clubbing than winning,

and who have done nothing to alter other fans'' view of our club as

being a "nice team that likes to play football" (translated as "Oh

we''re playing Norwich - that''s an easy three points").

The tragedy is that all too often supporters of these other clubs are

right, and I actually believe that on average they know a damn sight

more about football than the average Norwich City fan, who, judging by

most of  the comments on this board, is happy to spend his her

hard earned cash blindly following a team which underperforms  in

every away fixture - and this is tolerated, nay, even applauded !

Shame on you, Norwich fans.....don''t put up with this, show the world

that you recognise a poor manager and poor team when you see one and

act now to bring about change. There''s no shame in admitting we''re crap

- it will make us stronger in the end.