Mick Dennis playing the hits...

[essex canary 497]

9 minutes ago, nutty nigel said:

I honestly have no idea. I don't think Richard Balls is a shareholder but I don't read his stuff either.

What point are you making?

That he thought better of putting his money in but he thinks he is worthy of commenting having not paid the membership fee.

[Big Vince 318]

On 05/12/2023 at 10:03, PurpleCanary said:

I would agree, but it still gets repeated here, including the moronically stupid claim that she twice actually wanted to invest in Ipswich Town.

Stowmarket is very close to Ipswich therefore she must be Ipswich. And I would not dismiss the 1978 thing so readily. If you were dyed in the wool yellow and green it would be anathema to wear blue and white. End of. 

[nutty nigel 7,539]

10 minutes ago, essex canary said:

That he thought better of putting his money in but he thinks he is worthy of commenting having not paid the membership fee.

Ok. Read it. Honestly don't know what the fuss is about. There's nothing there that I didn't know already and there's nothing that isn't true.

Now shall I go and read all the other MFW articles that aren't written by shareholders? What about all the posters on here that aren't shareholders. Should they have a sub forum? 

Perhaps posters who make stuff should have a sub forum? I'd vote for that...

[nutty nigel 7,539]

2 minutes ago, Big Vince said:

Stowmarket is very close to Ipswich therefore she must be Ipswich. And I would not dismiss the 1978 thing so readily. If you were dyed in the wool yellow and green it would be anathema to wear blue and white. End of. 

Are all posters who live in Suffolk binners?

[Midlands Yellow 3,995]

32 minutes ago, nutty nigel said:

I honestly have no idea. I don't think Richard Balls is a shareholder but I don't read his stuff either.

What point are you making?

Read it, he’s quite good. 

[Big Vince 318]

13 hours ago, PurpleCanary said:

I don't believe that was really serious on either side. Fans kept pressing the club to arrange a meeting because of the Lotus connection, so Fernandes was invited to a midweek game, and afterwards there was a bit of PR guff about how these two famous Norfolk brands might help each other.

Fernandes' overall track record at QPR,  including a massive fine for breaking FFP rules, hardly suggests we missed out badly there. Peter Cullum on the other hand was serious, but his plan was rubbish, and rightly rejected.

When Bowkett later instituted a search for investment there were several proposals put forward but as he said he liked to see the money behind the plans, and none of them satisfied him they were well-founnded.

They may have been informal proposals since then. It wouldn't surprise me, since we are not an unattractive proposition. The one certainty, pre-Attanasio, is that no-one has ever turned an informal  proposal into a formal takeover offer, since that would have had to be notified to shareholders.

As I have told you before, Bowkett's worldwide search for an investor was a completely disingenuous one. At that time, the Socialists were not at all serious about relinquishing control by diluting their shareholding by even one penny. Bowkett's trip was entirely cosmetic trying to make it look as though they were serious. For decades they wanted to convey the message to fans that there was no one on this earth interested in Norwich City other than themselves. Why do you think Bowkett then resigned from the board a matter of days after having been re-elected? They had made a fool out of him and he knew it.

Edited December 6, 2023 by Big Vince

[Big Vince 318]

9 minutes ago, nutty nigel said:

Are all posters who live in Suffolk binners?

Absolutely. You had better believe it.

[essex canary 497]

35 minutes ago, nutty nigel said:

Ok. Read it. Honestly don't know what the fuss is about. There's nothing there that I didn't know already and there's nothing that isn't true.

Now shall I go and read all the other MFW articles that aren't written by shareholders? What about all the posters on here that aren't shareholders. Should they have a sub forum? 

Perhaps posters who make stuff should have a sub forum? I'd vote for that...

A Cricket Club wouldn't put up with it. Neither is Richard Balls nor Ed. If you haven’t paid why should you have your jaw-jaw opportunity?

[Sufyellow 222]

2 hours ago, nutty nigel said:

The main topic here is the article about Delia and Michael. My post you quoted mentioned Delia and Michael. 

I don't know how much our club is worth. This forum is awash with business owners and accountants so you'd be better askin one of them than a retired bog cleaner.

Well apart from its about what Delia said . Delia has always been the figure head of the club and the spokesperson, while Michael stays in the back ground.  I don't know why you try and twist things. Maybe distraction.  

[essex canary 497]

3 hours ago, nutty nigel said:

 

I don't know how much our club is worth. This forum is awash with business owners and accountants so you'd be better askin one of them than a retired bog cleaner.

But you have cleared up more thick smelly brown stuff.

[nutty nigel 7,539]

37 minutes ago, Sufyellow said:

Well apart from its about what Delia said . Delia has always been the figure head of the club and the spokesperson, while Michael stays in the back ground.  I don't know why you try and twist things. Maybe distraction.  

Nope. That doesn't really wash after you quoted my post about the two of them with 'she'.

Anyway, @essex canary doesn't think you should comment on it. Apparently you're an outsider. I like you though

[essex canary 497]

2 minutes ago, nutty nigel said:

Nope. That doesn't really wash after you quoted my post about the two of them with 'she'.

Anyway, @essex canary doesn't think you should comment on it. Apparently you're an outsider. I like you though

He claims to have financed some club transfers so maybe give him honorary membership if he hasn't got any shares. Can't keep letting these other imposters in though.

[Midlands Yellow 3,995]

44 minutes ago, Sufyellow said:

Well apart from its about what Delia said . Delia has always been the figure head of the club and the spokesperson, while Michael stays in the back ground.  I don't know why you try and twist things. Maybe distraction.  

That just about weighs it up. 

[PurpleCanary 5,563]

9 hours ago, Big Vince said:

As I have told you before, Bowkett's worldwide search for an investor was a completely disingenuous one. At that time, the Socialists were not at all serious about relinquishing control by diluting their shareholding by even one penny. Bowkett's trip was entirely cosmetic trying to make it look as though they were serious. For decades they wanted to convey the message to fans that there was no one on this earth interested in Norwich City other than themselves. Why do you think Bowkett then resigned from the board a matter of days after having been re-elected? They had made a fool out of him and he knew it.

Unfortunately you saying something is not the same as you telling me something. And much as I admire that made-up nonsense about why Bowkett quit when he did my understanding is that the real reason was rather different, and unconnected to Smith and Jones.

Not least because Bowkett resigned in 2015, and the search for investment which he carried out and in his own words - ‘’Every time I asked ‘Could you please verify you have the funding?’ No-one passed the test.’’ - drew a blank was in 2011. A four-year gap doesn’t quite fit your explanation of an immediate reaction to being supposedly  fooled by S&J.

You do add to the gaiety of nations, I will give you that, but all court jesters end up growing too old for the job.

Edited December 7, 2023 by PurpleCanary

[nutty nigel 7,539]

1 hour ago, essex canary said:

He claims to have financed some club transfers so maybe give him honorary membership if he hasn't got any shares. Can't keep letting these other imposters in though.

But if Suf means Suffolk then even if you bend your rules he still won't qualify because of Vincie's amendment. I'd let anyone in and I like him. But if you make rules and then immediately make exceptions who knows where you'll end up...

[Duncan Edwards 2,237]

1 minute ago, nutty nigel said:

But if Suf means Suffolk then even if you bend your rules he still won't qualify because of Vincie's amendment. I'd let anyone in and I like him. But if you make rules and then immediately make exceptions who knows where you'll end up...

Prime Minister?

[hogesar 9,690]

2 hours ago, PurpleCanary said:

Unfortunately you saying something is not the same as you telling me something. And much as I admire that made-up nonsense about why Bowkett quit when he did my understanding is the real reason was rather different, and unconnected to Smith and Jones.

Not least because Bowkett resigned in 2015, and the search for investment which he carried out and in his own words - ‘’Every time I asked ‘Could you please verify you have the funding?’ No-one passed the test.’’ - drew a blank was in 2011. A four-year gap doesn’t quite fit your explanation of an immediate reaction to being supposedly  fooled by S&J.

You do add to the gaiety of nations, I will give you that, but all court jesters end up growing too old for the job.

[komakino 272]

11 hours ago, PurpleCanary said:

Unfortunately you saying something is not the same as you telling me something. And much as I admire that made-up nonsense about why Bowkett quit when he did my understanding is that the real reason was rather different, and unconnected to Smith and Jones.

Not least because Bowkett resigned in 2015, and the search for investment which he carried out and in his own words - ‘’Every time I asked ‘Could you please verify you have the funding?’ No-one passed the test.’’ - drew a blank was in 2011. A four-year gap doesn’t quite fit your explanation of an immediate reaction to being supposedly  fooled by S&J.

You do add to the gaiety of nations, I will give you that, but all court jesters end up growing too old for the job.

I remember being told by somebody who knew Bowkett well that he left because 'He got fed up of being outvoted' and McNally 'always sided in with Smith and Jones', so became a marginalised figure. 

As an aside, I remember when some fans were disappointed when Bowkett wanted to make Norwich City a 'Top Ten' fixture in the EPL as a lack of ambition! 

[hogesar 9,690]

31 minutes ago, komakino said:

I remember being told by somebody who knew Bowkett well that he left because 'He got fed up of being outvoted' and McNally 'always sided in with Smith and Jones', so became a marginalised figure. 

As an aside, I remember when some fans were disappointed when Bowkett wanted to make Norwich City a 'Top Ten' fixture in the EPL as a lack of ambition! 

To be fair you claim to have been told Delia tried to invest in Ipswich so if there's anything you should take from all this, it's that you should stop listening to people who are quite clearly bulls*itting you on the basis they know you'll fall for it

[essex canary 497]

12 hours ago, Duncan Edwards said:

Prime Minister?

Good point. More piffle from Pfeffel is currently the order of the day and to think that Delia invited him to Carrow Road ahead of the Club shareholders. Not to mention that the only flight we needed to Rwanda is the one that took Cleverly out there.

Edited December 7, 2023 by essex canary

[essex canary 497]

14 hours ago, PurpleCanary said:

Unfortunately you saying something is not the same as you telling me something. And much as I admire that made-up nonsense about why Bowkett quit when he did my understanding is that the real reason was rather different, and unconnected to Smith and Jones.

 

 My understanding was that it was connected with McNally. In that context it can't really be unconnected with Smith and Jones as in such circumstances aren't they reasonably obliged to broker key relationships in their role as majority shareholders?

[Big Vince 318]

14 hours ago, PurpleCanary said:

Unfortunately you saying something is not the same as you telling me something. And much as I admire that made-up nonsense about why Bowkett quit when he did my understanding is that the real reason was rather different, and unconnected to Smith and Jones.

Not least because Bowkett resigned in 2015, and the search for investment which he carried out and in his own words - ‘’Every time I asked ‘Could you please verify you have the funding?’ No-one passed the test.’’ - drew a blank was in 2011. A four-year gap doesn’t quite fit your explanation of an immediate reaction to being supposedly  fooled by S&J.

You do add to the gaiety of nations, I will give you that, but all court jesters end up growing too old for the job.

Come on, the Socialists have a litany of people quitting on them. Barry Lockwood, Gordon Bennett, Bob the Grocer, the Turners, Munby, Doomcaster, Bowkett, McNasty, Moxey, Skipper, Balls, Phillips, Fry. 

At what point does it become more than just misfortune?

Edited December 7, 2023 by Big Vince

[essex canary 497]

30 minutes ago, Big Vince said:

Come on, the Socialists have a litany of people quitting on them. Barry Lockwood, Gordon Bennett, Bob the Grocer, the Turners, Munby, Doomcaster, Bowkett, McNasty, Moxey, Skipper, Balls, Phillips, Fry. 

At what point does it become more than just misfortune?

They need to try a Committee comprising you, me and Nutty.

[Sufyellow 222]

20 hours ago, nutty nigel said:

Nope. That doesn't really wash after you quoted my post about the two of them with 'she'.

Anyway, @essex canary doesn't think you should comment on it. Apparently you're an outsider. I like you though

I am a closet binner , on here to cause trouble. Unfortunately I may as well be as Delia doesn't like me anymore.  

[Sufyellow 222]

20 hours ago, essex canary said:

He claims to have financed some club transfers so maybe give him honorary membership if he hasn't got any shares. Can't keep letting these other imposters in though.

I think it was a massive accumulative effort,  I definitely didn't buy Holt on my own,  just the 3 season ticket refunds. You can all keep your shares. 

[Sufyellow 222]

19 hours ago, nutty nigel said:

But if Suf means Suffolk then even if you bend your rules he still won't qualify because of Vincie's amendment. I'd let anyone in and I like him. But if you make rules and then immediately make exceptions who knows where you'll end up...

Vince , may let me in if he knew I spent all week  fighting the good cause in Suffolk,  telling all my work colleagues and boss how well we are playing and that we have won 3 of our last 4 games. They also know they can be 20 points ahead at the end of the season but we will beat them in the play off semi finals. They are actually worried.  

[essex canary 497]

1 hour ago, Sufyellow said:

I think it was a massive accumulative effort,  I definitely didn't buy Holt on my own,  just the 3 season ticket refunds. You can all keep your shares. 

The promoter of that initiative Mr. Foulger hasn't kept his. Probably has got his contribution back now. It's that kind of truth that keeps me off the Xmas card list. I would much prefer a glass of the red vino at the AGM though.

[nutty nigel 7,539]

2 hours ago, Sufyellow said:

Vince , may let me in if he knew I spent all week  fighting the good cause in Suffolk,  telling all my work colleagues and boss how well we are playing and that we have won 3 of our last 4 games. They also know they can be 20 points ahead at the end of the season but we will beat them in the play off semi finals. They are actually worried.  

Vincie's a rum un though. I reckon we should ignore him, let him pal up with Komabino, If Essex says you're in then you're in

[nutty nigel 7,539]

1 hour ago, essex canary said:

The promoter of that initiative Mr. Foulger hasn't kept his. Probably has got his contribution back now. It's that kind of truth that keeps me off the Xmas card list. I would much prefer a glass of the red vino at the AGM though.

Foulger's gone. He got his own deal. Doubt we'll get the same offer but you never know. Attanasio might value a few legacy fans and keep us around with Delia and Michael. We can be curiosities for the Armchair Brigade. The camera can focus on a few of us if a streaker runs on...

[Sufyellow 222]

1 hour ago, essex canary said:

The promoter of that initiative Mr. Foulger hasn't kept his. Probably has got his contribution back now. It's that kind of truth that keeps me off the Xmas card list. I would much prefer a glass of the red vino at the AGM though.

It did disappoint me abit , I am sure at the time I felt it was if we left the money in he would match it. But when he sold his shares it came across as he only lent the money. I may have misread the situation but I felt a bit cheated.