percyvarco 0 Posted March 1, 2006 Good to see another of Worty''s rejects doing well last night. Bently, two goals for England U21''s. Sadly he was not a good enough worker for NW and it seems that he had a sense of Humour. Seeing what the Hughes / Bowen combination have got out of him makes me wish more for Mark Bowen as our manager next. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rossi 0 Posted March 1, 2006 would hardly call him a worthington reject - he played every game he was fit for and he was on loan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,359 Posted March 1, 2006 if we had the money im sure we would have brought him here!Worthington wanted to but we had no money remember?And the "''ave it" thing is just behaviour, and im sure everyone at norwich is treated fairly...... apart from when Worthless picks the starting 11..... "i still havnt forgiven Mcveigh for stealing my wotsits! so hmm, Hughes can play there""Robinson can warm up my place on the bench for me, he is good at doing that...." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0peteddMMyyyy0Falseen-USTrue 0 Posted March 1, 2006 The "Ave it" episode was something made up by the club to explain DB being dropped. I have it confirmed by his prospective father in law i.e. the horses mouth, DB upset Worthy by having an opinion in a team meeting, to which the Wothy response was "I am not having a slip of a kid telling me what to do", all it was was merely a suggestion.Does this sound like something he would say?, I think yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted March 1, 2006 [quote user="pete"]The "Ave it" episode was something made up by the club to explain DB being dropped. I have it confirmed by his prospective father in law i.e. the horses mouth, DB upset Worthy by having an opinion in a team meeting, to which the Wothy response was "I am not having a slip of a kid telling me what to do", all it was was merely a suggestion.Does this sound like something he would say?, I think yes.[/quote]me 2 pete... as i have said countless times before "arrogant bully"... Worthy would hate me! id be in his face constantly as dont like bullysjas :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ramrod 258 Posted March 1, 2006 And as everyone knows bullies are fundamentally insecure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ncfc0405 0 Posted March 1, 2006 more witchhunting - this time by chinese whispers.the horse''s mouth is worthy or bentley, not bentley''s fiance''s father.and to say that a loan player who understandably wanted to continue playing premiership football when we got relegated is thus a ''worthy reject'' is laughable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
percyvarco 0 Posted March 2, 2006 ncfc0405 - this isn''t a witch hunt just an observation that some players flourish elsewhere when NW isn''t in charge. Forgive me, but I still consider Bentley rejected by NW I can''t remember a drive to keep him just as I cannot see any effort to keep WLY. Both of these players clearly have skills that don''t include clapping and political comment to suit NW.please keep polishing the rose coloured glasses and the rear view mirror so that you can ignore the present and look back at the only reasons I have ever heard that justify NW''s continued employment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oso Butch 0 Posted March 2, 2006 [quote user="pete"] The "Ave it" episode was something made up by the club to explain DB being dropped. I have it confirmed by his prospective father in law i.e. the horses mouth, DB upset Worthy by having an opinion in a team meeting, to which the Wothy response was "I am not having a slip of a kid telling me what to do", all it was was merely a suggestion.Does this sound like something he would say?, I think yes.[/quote]Since when, hardly any of our own ''slips of kids'' (Shackell, Jarvis 1 and 2 etc) have had a look in... Henderson has, of course, but look what good that''s done us. Suppose he can''t be a ''slip'' any more... [*-)]Question: If a ''misogynist'' is a person who hates or dislikes women, what''s the word for someone who dislikes ''slips of kids''? Answer: a ''Worthyist''. [:)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Journalist Foghorn 0 Posted March 2, 2006 [quote user="ncfc0405"]more witchhunting - this time by chinese whispers.the horse''s mouth is worthy or bentley, not bentley''s fiance''s father.and to say that a loan player who understandably wanted to continue playing premiership football when we got relegated is thus a ''worthy reject'' is laughable.[/quote]All i would say ncfc0405, is that worthy failed to get as much out of David Bently. But as he is a creative attacking player its no surprise there...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Rages 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Pervycarco,I don''t think ncfc0405''s comment was intended to justify worthingtons position. You''ve gone and got ahead of yourself.What he is saying is, that using the fact that David Bently has scored a few goals for his current employer to reflect a failure by Worthington is a pretty poor argument.Bentley didn''t fit in at Arsenal and gained a reputation there for being a bit above his own station. Also take into account that Blackburn are fifth in the Premiership and are finding goals alot easier to come by than Norwich last season hovering around the bottom three.Has scored three goals in fifteen starts with two substitute appearances in the league compared to 28 appearances for Norwich (not sure how many as sub) with 2 goals. Not a massive improvement but an improvement reflective of his time currently playing in a successful side.As far as him being rejected goes, well he didn''t want to play Championship football, a point reinforced by him rejecting moves to both Crystal Palace and Wolves. To be honest there are far better arguments to back up why Worthy should go. This clearly isn''t one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Rages 0 Posted March 2, 2006 [quote user="Oso Butch"][quote user="pete"] The "Ave it" episode was something made up by the club to explain DB being dropped. I have it confirmed by his prospective father in law i.e. the horses mouth, DB upset Worthy by having an opinion in a team meeting, to which the Wothy response was "I am not having a slip of a kid telling me what to do", all it was was merely a suggestion.Does this sound like something he would say?, I think yes.[/quote]Since when, hardly any of our own ''slips of kids'' (Shackell, Jarvis 1 and 2 etc) have had a look in... Henderson has, of course, but look what good that''s done us. Suppose he can''t be a ''slip'' any more... [*-)]Question: If a ''misogynist'' is a person who hates or dislikes women, what''s the word for someone who dislikes ''slips of kids''? Answer: a ''Worthyist''. [:)][/quote]Worthington truly would be stupid if he played injured players. Only one of those three is currently fit to play and he himself has been injured for most of the season.C''mon please try harder. Please think of ACTUAL reasons to get rid of the man, not make believe dreams you had on the toilet.I want him out as well, but i''ll back up my thoughts by fact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oso Butch 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Of the many things I''ve done in my life, YR, falling asleep on the loo is not (yet) one of them...!!! [H]My point was simple: he''s (apparently) got an issue with ''yoof'' - and I, and many others, think that''s to the club''s detriment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Rages 0 Posted March 2, 2006 I agree, a problem with the younger players would be an issue. I think we can all agree on that.But what I am saying is, does he really have a problem with youth? Where is the evidence to support your theory. For all I know there could be some damning evidence to this effect but i''m yet to see it. Show me the money! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oso Butch 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Putting injuries to one side, when the youngsters have been available, he''s been too reluctant to play them (Hendo excepted). If he has, it''s been for just a few minutes. Worst of all, a good game by one of the lads (e.g. that great Jarvis goal earelier in the season) has been ''rewarded'' by a place on the bench (at best) the next game. Lousy psychology, IMO.Indeed, it''s all so bizarre and inexplicable, it leads me to conclude that he''d rather play loanee jouneymen of questionable skill and commitment than give the lads a chance, for some reason known only to him. With the season officially over, he should be blooding them now, IMO. Personally, I don''t think the fans would get on their backs (as they have tended to do with Hendo, who''s had more than his fair share of chances, IMO) because it would be clear what he was doing - especially if he explained his end-of-season ''youth development'' policy in the match programme. What''s there to lose? Personally, I really liked the look of Cave-Brown and Spillane when they came on against the Spammers. Full of energy and apparently not fazed by the occasion. Haven''t seen or heard of them since.... [:)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rossi 0 Posted March 2, 2006 [quote user="pete"]The "Ave it" episode was something made up by the club to explain DB being dropped. I have it confirmed by his prospective father in law i.e. the horses mouth, DB upset Worthy by having an opinion in a team meeting, to which the Wothy response was "I am not having a slip of a kid telling me what to do", all it was was merely a suggestion.Does this sound like something he would say?, I think yes.[/quote]and there was me thinking it was becasue he was acting a jerk sliding his car around trhe car park before failing to negotiate a brick wall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
percyvarco 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Agreed that there are better arguments for getting rid of NW. I am trying to point out and I think supported, that NW has an aversion to certain types of players and this is harming us. For this thread I choose a skillful player who needed nurture and coaching. I am sure that you have seen other occasions outside football where skills are present bet it takes management to realise them with many things, including youth, being a barrier.What would NW do if he happened to come across a Rooney in our acadamey? I don''t thunk NW has the skills to build a team of his own by any other means than using average journeymen. (please don''t harp on about Ashton) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Harvey-Jones 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Both of his goals were great finishes. He has clearly improved a lot since he was at Norwich - most of his shots ended in the second tier of the N&P or Barclay when he was at Carrow Road!! It''s a shame his left foot curler didn''t go in for his hatrick - an audacious attempt which would have capped a memorable night! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Rages 0 Posted March 3, 2006 Pervycarco,This isn''t uncommon in football, infact it''s common place. Now that doesn''t make it right but what it does do is make it normal.Every club across the land does exactly the same thing. Now, if you are an exeptional talent ie Wayne Rooney, sure at 17 you are going to get a chance, but if you are a glowing prospect then you will be given glimpses of the first team but not a steady run. What does this do? Well it grounds players to a point where they don''t think they are superstars and they have toearn the respect of all at the club to proceed. Hence our loan signing Bentley.He was sent to us to be educated. He needed to learn how no frills football works into make him a better player. Ryan Jarvis- Has been injured all season - Can''t playJason Shackell - Has Been injured most of the season and is now only just fit to return but can only get in just like any other player if someone else has a few stinkers or is injured.Rossi Jarvis - Had a chance to play and did well. Now injured and has been for some weeks.Cave Brown - Did well but only young and as above will be shown glimpses over the next year or two.Spillane - Again did well and will be coaxed in over time.Henderson - Given chances and not really performed.There are so many wasted talents out there that were exposed too soon and suffered and as a result, clubs wont take that risk anymore. No club does. Everyone has learnt from the Alex Ferguson days of the early 90''s. And if you do your research you will find players even he didn''t deal with in the right way, that ended up on the heap.Thats football mate and if you think it''s ever going to be any different then your following the wrong sport.Back to your original comments though, no he hasn''t done anything wrong here. He is infact protecting future talent. Trust me I know!One of the few positives I can take out of what he is doing right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,359 Posted March 3, 2006 Re: what you said about hendersonthe fact he was being played out of position prehaps would be the reason for his poor performances........ its like playing green as a striker..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Rages 0 Posted March 3, 2006 Not quite,But yes he has been played in a position that isn''t probably his favourite. Thats not to say he shouldn''t be able to put in a performance. He will afterall be asked to do jobs he doesn''t really want to throughout his career. Just like every other player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites