Alex Moss 2,165 Posted October 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Indy said: To sign on a free at 20 suggests he must have been released from his contract by City. Exactly, Indy 👍 Wonder why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,300 Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Alex Moss said: Exactly, Indy 👍 Wonder why? Who knows but I’m not too bothered as to be honest I’d never heard of him till the link on this forum. Must be good signing on FM ?😂👍 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, Indy said: Who knows but I’m not too bothered as to be honest I’d never heard of him till the link on this forum. Must be good signing on FM ?😂👍 I’m kind of getting that impression, Indy! 😂 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
duke63 542 Posted October 16, 2020 30 minutes ago, dylanisabaddog said: Big deal. Free transfer and only Swansea wanted him. No point in paying for someone who's no better than the kids we have already If he was any good then City would have wanted a fee or would have loaned him out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Wynless Jones 161 Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Alex Moss said: What’s with all this ‘definitely’ won’t be any good nonsense, supposedly attributed to myself? I never said that at all. I did however say it SUGGESTS he’s not necessarily the Championship’s next best thing or suchlike. I would be very surprised if ourselves and many others had not already taken a good look at him. And realised he’s no better than what we already have waiting in the wings. You don’t just give away players of a certain talent, or at least, it’s very very rare that kind of mistake happens. Perhaps he will turn out to be the one that got away for Man City, but the fact that there was no bidding war for his services kind of suggests not. Fair enough, although I'd still counter it doesn't suggest that he's "not promising at all", it still just suggests he's not good enough for a top 4 side. Is he any good? Not a clue, but he still wasn't free unless Man City released him first which there is no suggestion they did (they might have done I will concede), but all "free" transfers for players under 24 in the UK still command a nominal fee. Anyway, as I don't really give a **** either way whether we signed him, I'll leave it there 😄 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,558 Posted October 16, 2020 Not a huge surprise he’s gone to Swansea as he was Steve Cooper’s captain in the England U20s team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,141 Posted October 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, YellaYellowYella said: What's this character's problem? I see you’re new to the forum. I could explain but it will all become clear pretty quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Angry 1,561 Posted October 16, 2020 21 minutes ago, Indy said: Who knows but I’m not too bothered as to be honest I’d never heard of him till the link on this forum. Must be good signing on FM ?😂👍 IIRC he usually gets released at the end of the 20/21 season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Angry 1,561 Posted October 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, Michael Wynless Jones said: Is he any good? Not a clue, but he still wasn't free unless Man City released him first which there is no suggestion they did (they might have done I will concede), but all "free" transfers for players under 24 in the UK still command a nominal fee. You may be thinking of the scenario where a player under 24 is offered a new contract by his current club but refuses it and accepts a contract with another club, in which case compensation would be payable. Obviously this means that he must be coming to the end of his contract with his current club-which wasn't the case here. i also seem to remember that the new contract offered by the current club must be an improvement on the current contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C.I.D 302 Posted October 16, 2020 29 minutes ago, Alex Moss said: Exactly, Indy 👍 Wonder why? Perhaps the Mancs thought that he was too obsessed by social media ..............and Alice bands 😉 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adelaide Canary 12 Posted October 16, 2020 Well, I guess at least Swansea have taken a punt and tried to strengthen. It often works you know. All we have done is strengthen the bank account. I guess the results on the pitch will tell over the coming weeks .... not hopeful at all. Squad is weaker than two years ago .... sinking back to mid-lower championship mediocrity i fear ... just where the ownership feel comfortable though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanthecanary 168 Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Alex Moss said: What’s with all this ‘definitely’ won’t be any good nonsense, supposedly attributed to myself? I never said that at all. I did however say it SUGGESTS he’s not necessarily the Championship’s next best thing or suchlike. I would be very surprised if ourselves and many others had not already taken a good look at him. And realised he’s no better than what we already have waiting in the wings. You don’t just give away players of a certain talent, or at least, it’s very very rare that kind of mistake happens. Perhaps he will turn out to be the one that got away for Man City, but the fact that there was no bidding war for his services kind of suggests not. While there are players who slip through the cracks, it does seem to be rare. It is also very rare for big clubs to just let young players walk away for free, even if they don't think they can make it at their club. You would normally expect a top club to loan out a 20 year old to potentially make some money on them much. Loan them out, show their worth to championship or lower PL sides then sell them. Much like Gunn, I don't think he was ever that close to cracking the first team at Man City. It's why players like Paizon are still at clubs like Chelsea at 26 having played 1 league game since 2012. They think they can get money for him by selling him or from loan fees. Roberts is another one, he's never going to play for Man City. Edited October 17, 2020 by seanthecanary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
